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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 09:03 AM
Largest Desal Plant in Western Hemisphere to be Built in Rosarito Beach


Found this while searching for Rosarito Beach news.

Located next to the power plant. Water for Rosarito, Tijuana, maybe San Diego.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jun/21/baja-de...
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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 10:51 AM



I think its great, just will be just the start
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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 03:30 PM


For many years, new development in BCS has had to install desal facilities.

I am not about to diss desal, but it does require an amazing amount of electricity to perform its function. With a long time drought on the West coast, I have to wonder what the trade off is.

If you don't have enough water runoff to power your desal plant, what do you you do.

Climate change is a b-tch.
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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 04:12 PM


There is another one being built for the Ensenada area.



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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 04:26 PM


I think they pump brackish water and desal that. It the same well but from years of pumping there is saltwater incursion of the aquifer and eventually makes the water unusable without treatment.



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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 04:29 PM


what happens to the sludge that is removed? it can't be good to pump it back into the ocean?



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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 05:04 PM


That is the issue. It's basically toxic waste. Usually to the landfill.



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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 09:34 PM


What"sludge" are you talking about? The effluent from a modern RO plant is water that is 10% saltier than the treatment water. Hardly toxic. It does use a lot of power but it's a trade off, what do you need most.
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[*] posted on 7-3-2016 at 09:59 PM


The math seems off a little.

Sea water reverse osmosis (SWRO) desalination, a membrane process, has been commercially used since the early 1970s. Its first practical use was demonstrated by Sidney Loeb from University of California at Los Angeles in Coalinga, California, and Srinivasa Sourirajan of National Research council, Canada. Because no heating or phase changes are needed, energy requirements are low, around 3 kWh/m3, in comparison to other processes of desalination, but are still much higher than those required for other forms of water supply, including reverse osmosis treatment of wastewater, at 0.1 to 1 kWh/m3. Up to 50% of the seawater input can be recovered as fresh water, though lower recoveries may reduce membrane fouling and energy consumption.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 05:32 AM


this is what i read: http://www.paua.de/Impacts.htm

but yeah, water is a requirement for life so whatcha gonna do?




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 08:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
There is another one being built for the Ensenada area.

...but ours is one tenth the size: Set to launch operations in 2017, the state’s first utility-scale ocean desalination plant is under construction in Ensenada, where residents have been subject to water rationing. The $48 million plant, a reverse-osmosis facility, would supply 5.7 million gallons daily to residents of the port city, part of a sprawling Baja California municipality that includes the San Quintin export-oriented agricultural region and the wine-producing Valle de Guadalupe.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 09:25 AM


Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
this is what i read: http://www.paua.de/Impacts.htm

but yeah, water is a requirement for life so whatcha gonna do?


I read this too. Scary.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 09:26 AM


What's powering it? Diesel? How much water could one desal with $48 million in solar panels?
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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 09:33 AM


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What's powering it? Diesel? How much water could one desal with $48 million in solar panels?

They should just buy the bottles of water at Costco and save the taxpayers money!! :lol:




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 09:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Mexitron  
What's powering it? Diesel? How much water could one desal with $48 million in solar panels?


Lots and lots of oil. And a huge smoke plume to go with it.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 09:44 AM


Desal is expensive water. Takes mucho energy.
Desal water will be too expensive to irrigate landscape. More of the same: developed areas w/o vegetation. Ugly!

Thank god for aqueducts in CA.

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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 10:00 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Quote: Originally posted by Mexitron  
What's powering it? Diesel? How much water could one desal with $48 million in solar panels?


Lots and lots of oil. And a huge smoke plume to go with it.


A little research indicates that the plant was converted to gas from oil a few years back. So that helps some.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 11:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Mexitron  
What's powering it? Diesel? How much water could one desal with $48 million in solar panels?

They should just buy the bottles of water at Costco and save the taxpayers money!! :lol:


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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 11:12 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Desal is expensive water. Takes mucho energy.
Desal water will be too expensive to irrigate landscape. More of the same: developed areas w/o vegetation. Ugly!

Thank god for aqueducts in CA.



Guess you don't know about the 1 billion dollar desalination plant in Carlsbad, San Diego county.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlsbad_desalination_plant
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[*] posted on 7-4-2016 at 11:22 AM


There is an existing electrical infrastructure of NG powered peaking plants located at the border and new HV transmission lines from the solar power being created in the Mojave. Plenty of power available, some day a gasoline refinery will be built in Baja to replace the ones in the Norte.



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