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lizard lips
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Dead and gone in Baja
Working as a Life Insurance Investigator all over the world I see how people want to be remembered in Death. Here in Baja I investigated the death of
a very famous Baja resident who was one of the first to build a resort in the Cabo area. His remains were buried in the lobby of the hotel and only
myself and family members know this info. You have probably walked over his grave and did'nt know it! Then there was the guy in Durango ( a wealthy
ranch owner) who had his body placed in the arch that you pass through at the entrance to his ranch. In San Miguel Allende there was an American woman
who lived there for many years who had her resting place just under the fireplace in her home. I could go on and on with other strange resting places
that I have come across but I have thought long and hard at this question and I have decided to be cremated and have my ashes tossed close to the
Island in Ensenada Bay. Fred Hoctor is there now and Fred and I enjoyed fishing this area for years. My question to you is, Where do you want to be
laid to rest? Is it in Baja or do you want to be cremated and have a little of you spread in many different places like my Grandfather. He is all over
the world. I have placed a little of him from China to India to Argentina, always in a very nice spot. This question to me is not morbid just
interesting and all of you true Baja lovers might come up with some out of the way places. Lets hear it!
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JESSE
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I think what you did with your grandpa is really cool
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David K
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This really is a great topic because it forces you confront reality and our mortality...
I always thought I would like my ashes left on Shell Island (burried down in the dunes with the shells and sand), it was my favorite Baja place of
tranquility and pleasure.
The only problem is, that I have so many favorite places in Baja California in addition to Shell Island... The Lizard Lips solution with his
grandfather's ashes sounds interesting... 
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Mike Humfreville
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It doesn't matter to me except that I feel a responsibility to have my grave accessible to those that follow me. My family has a collective burial
site in So Cal. It's not that I do it very often, but when I choose I can go there and visit many of my predecessors. So I guess Baja is out for me.
If something went wrong with USA and EUM relationships, I'd be bye-bye. Of course I'll be bye-bye no matter what. But if I could offer a form of
support from 6 feet under for my children in some unknown future crisis I would want to be there.
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Bajabus
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loaded into a 16" chrysanthemum 5 times color changing fireworks shell and fired as part of a fireworks finale in NY.
Every time my friends or loved ones saw fireworks they would think of me.
My next best thing would be to be mixed with lead shot, screws, nuts and bolts and placed in four vials. Pour one, each year of bushes presidency,
down the throat of the carburetor in Baja Blackies favorite car or truck while it's reving at 8k in neutral. 
[Edited on 2-2-2005 by Bajabus]
[Edited on 2-2-2005 by Bajabus]
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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Oso
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First, I'd like to donate any still usable organs. Then I'd like my skeleton preserved, wired up and donated to a Catholic Girls' school.
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Eli
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This is a great thread, way fun!
Although everyone so far as given really great answers to the question of what to do wih their remains. I gotta vote that so far Oso has my favorite
soultion with Baja Bus is certainly coming in a close second. I am still sitting here chuckling, to cute you guys!
If I had my rathers, I would prefer that what ever could be of use, proabally the eyes will be the only thing not all used up by the time I am out of
here, but anyway, what ever organs could be used to help someone along, that would be more than great by me.
As to the rest of the flesh, organs, bones and such, it would be a total pleasure and a wonderful opportunity at a real what goes around comes around
pay back time kind of deal, if we could please dump me some where real deep in the sea of cortez with some adobe blocks or what ever to hold down the
cadaver until the bottom fish, crabs, who ever is around got a good meal out of the deal.
If that can't happen due to regulations and such, well, burn the dam thing, have a little party on the beach, toss the ashes and get on with life, I
will be long gone by than I can assure you of that.
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El Camote
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The Ever After
I love travel & I love snorkeling so I plan to be cremated and flushed down the crapper.
I'm pretty sure my wife has more detailed plans for me and I know she's been fantasizing about it for a long time. Really went over like a fart in
church when I recently put 4 new Potenzas on her car for our 10th anniversary. I've always subscribed to "nothing says I love you like a set of new
tires" but inexplicably she didn't agree.
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bajajudy
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Jim's Aunt, Judy
Years ago we brought my husband's aunt's ashes down to bury at sea. She also was taken on alot of other trips at that time as her daughter wanted
her to go to all the places she had always wanted to go but had never gone.
We went out on a panga out of La Playita on a fishing trip with Judy in a ziplock. We waited and waited for the right moment to make our deposit.
Finally our captain had to change the fuel tanks and out Judy came, Ashes to Ashes spoken very softly and over the side she went. Our captain looked
up just then and gasped. Judy had held together in this cloud that passed under the boat and drifted away from us. It was very weird. We had made
the decision not to tell him what we were doing as we were not sure how he would react and besides people in our village think that we are nutty
enough without re-enforcing it!
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bajaloco
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If I had the choice of anywhere, it would be on top of the mountains, above Puerto Escondido. Watching out for chubasco's for eternity...
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osoflojo
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Eli's idea has much merit for me, but absent that alternative just leave my carcus on a deserted beach anywhere along the Mar de Cortez and let the
critters recycle me to the nitrogen cycle and get a good meal at the same time
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fdt
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cremate me
find a way to get to playa coromuel from wherever you are, swim, take a dinghy or panga to the buoy , wait for the wind to blow, open container , let
the coromuel do the rest. One of the most beautifull or vivid experiences in my mind still at this time is going " al Coromuel " , be it on weekends
or when skipping school, laying on the sand, jugar competencias a ver quien llega nadando primero a la boya. I'll stop there.
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MrBillM
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Once I'm dead they can do anything they want with the shell. It has no meaning.
As far as donating organs, I've always said whenever asked why I won't, it's because the organ might be used to save the life of someone I would have
wanted to see dead.
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Reeljob
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Funny true Story
A friends Girlfriend's grandfather passed away in So Cal. He wanted his ashes to be scattered over the hills above Palm Desert, CA.
Friend took Girlfriend, Grandma & Mom up in Cessna 172, climbed out of Bermuda Dunes over to Palm Desert, Found the old homestead, opened the pilot
side window and thru out the jar full of ashes. Of course they blew back into the plane, into everyones eyes, ears, and .... mouth.
My friend looked back and saw ashes stuck in everyones teeth and remarked "That's suposed to happen?
Yeh, right. and I believe your also suposed to slow down, crab a little etc.
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Me No
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I'm still way to young to have to worry about such things.
Lizard Lips, I didn't know you fished. We have to go out some time. I am in Estaban Cantu #78. Look me up. How is your lovely wife doing? I have
changed wives since our last meeting.
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David K
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I have pictures in my web site of both couples: Lizard Lips y esposa and Minnow y esposa primera... since they met (like many others) at Viva Baja
(#3) about 3 years ago.
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Paulina
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Lizard Lips
I think that Fred would like the company. Would you also have them drop your favorite fishing pole in with you as well? I always think about him when
passing over his spot in our panga and wonder if anyone will ever pull his pole up from it's resting place on the bottom, and wonder how that got
there.
I once thought of being donated to a medical school, but visions of being a naked prank on a roof top changed my mind. Organs will go, If I go in the
U.S. If I'm lucky enough to go in Baja, maybe I could be put next to Frank and Shirley in Bahia if's there's any room left.
P.<*)))><
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Gypsy Jan
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Hoooboy!
This subject is the elephant in room as you get to that certain place in life:
My mother got sick and died within twelve months.
I always felt that her death was a control issue; she never told me about her struggle and ultimately, I felt shut out.
She was a Bahai, and left detailed instructions for burial and her garments (simple linen garments) and to the construction of her coffin (plain pine)
and internment within twenty-four hours
Opposite of that, I am inclined to be cremated and have my dust be comingled with my husband's, along with our family's, and best friends (who have
left portions already) and our beloved companion animals.
I haven't figured this out yet; distribute everything on the water in our in the sea waters of our home cove, or do a half-and-half, sprinkling the
rest on our home land in Baja.
One of my constant recurring dreams is about snorkeling in lively waters, seeing the life below.
I would like to continue to do that in my afterlife, with my family close by.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Me No
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True David. I also won a bottle of tequila that Lizard donated. I believe it
was called Tres Mujeres, very smooth.
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Dave
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Woke up this morning
Put on my slippers
Walked in the kitchen and died
And oh what a feeling!
When my soul
Went thru the ceiling
And on up into heaven I did ride
When I got there they did say
John, it happened this way
You slipped upon the floor
And hit your head
And all the angels say
Just before you passed away
These were the very last words
That you said:
Please don't bury me
Down in that cold cold ground
No, I'd druther have "em" cut me up
And pass me all around
Throw my brain in a hurricane
And the blind can have my eyes
And the deaf can take both of my ears
If they don't mind the size
Give my stomach to Milwaukee
If they run out of beer
Put my socks in a cedar box
Just get "em" out of here
Venus de Milo can have my arms
Look out! I've got your nose
Sell my heart to the junkman
And give my love to Rose
Give my feet to the footloose
Careless, fancy free
Give my knees to the needy
Don't pull that stuff on me
Hand me down my walking cane
It's a sin to tell a lie
Send my mouth way down south
And kiss my a*s goodbye
John Prine
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