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PaulW
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Toyota problems continue
Toyota will pay up to $3.4 billion to settle a class-action lawsuit brought by U.S. pickup and SUV owners whose vehicles lacked adequate rust
protection.
Court filings show that the settlement, reached on Oct. 31, covers 1.5 million vehicles, dealing a financial blow to the Japanese automaker whose
trucks were subject to corrosion that could harm their structural integrity.
The settlement applies to Tacoma trucks made from 2005 to 2010, Sequoias from 2005 to 2008, and Tundras from 2007 to 2008.
The settlement estimates the value of replacing the frame at roughly $15,000 per vehicle.
Under the settlement, Toyota will inspect vehicles for 12 years from their initial sales or lease date to decide if the owner is eligible for a
replaced frame or reimbursement.
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Ateo
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Ouch. Will David be getting some cash?
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TMW
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The first generation Tacoma was also subject to rust and Toyota replaced many frames thru 2014, 10 years after the last Gen 1. The vehicles were from
states that used salt on the winter hwys. I would imagine this is similar.
I have a 2004 Gen 1 but do not have the rust problem. My truck was first sold in VA but the owner moved to the LA area soon after buying it.
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bonanza bucko
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I had a 2001 Tundra which went down "That Road" between Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay about 20 times without ever developing a squeak or rattle. It was
a magnificent truck. Then the new and bigger Tundra replaced it and things went to heck: A friend bought one and the radiator fell out on That Road
because the brackets for it were too weak; the top of the instrument panel rattled because it was too thin; the truck weighed about the same as the
old and smaller Tundra despite being a lot bigger......thin sheet metal and plastic instead of steel.
I thought Toyota had decided to make the truck look like a Dodge or Ford instead of a Toyota. So I bought a Ford and I'm very happy with it...doesn't
rattle or squeak.
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David K
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Rust, what's that? The only salted roads I drive is the dry lake beds and salt flats of Baja. My 3rd Tacoma, over 300,000 miles combined, no problems
with rust or rattles. There are many Nomad Toyota truck drivers, maybe someone will have an issue with theirs?
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ehall
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Do you guys wash your undercarriage when you get back from driving on the beach?
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woody with a view
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No. let the rain take care of it-if it ever rains.
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Bajaboy
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I had a cracked frame on my last Tacoma. I'm sure it was related to this problem. But that truck is long gone. So far so good on my new Tacoma.
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TMW
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The last time I drove the salt flats from San Ignacio to San Juanico in my GMC the under carriage had a light coating of rust a few days later. I've
driven it in my Tacoma but I don't see any rust that means anything, not like the GMC. The rust on the GMC is so minor it is of no concern.
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Ken Cooke
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I thoroughly clean the undercarriage of my Jeep. No rust, no thank you.
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Barry A.
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When I worked at Cape Hatteras Natl. Seashore we often were driving on the beaches (never in the ocean water) in our Govt. vehicles. It was mandatory
that we hose off the under carriage of our vehicles each and every time we came off the beach. Even so, our vehicles lasted a max. of 5 years before
they rusted out. Salt is a killer!!!
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Gulliver
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I have fought salt to a standstill pretty much. I have a 24' steam boat and almost all of my launching is into salt water.
I have boxed in the ends of the square tubing and coated the insides of those members with oil. I keep heavy paint on the rest of it. I have
pre-installed hoses to the brake backing plates so I can easily flush them. Wash the whole thing down after every launch.
And I still have to be on top of things to keep corrosion under control. Horrible stuff.
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BeemerDan
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At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out,  So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol.
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norte
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Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan  | At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out, So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol. |
No wonder gov't spending is out of control. waste by the employees. bet you complain about your taxes too. You should have been fired.
(Trumpism)
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out, So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol. |
My first new car was a 75.5 Cherokee Chief, didn't own it long enough for rust from beach driving. It was far too unreliable to take to Baja too much.
Sold the Jeep and bought my first 4WD Subaru.
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BeemerDan
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| Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out, So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol. |
No wonder gov't spending is out of control. waste by the employees. bet you complain about your taxes too. You should have been fired.
(Trumpism) |
My bad I didn't mention this was 40 yrs ago and a Coast Guard vehicle used for rescues also. I guess its a good thing AMC/Jeep didn't our make boats.
 BTW your rant doesn't hold water either.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | | Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out, So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol. |
No wonder gov't spending is out of control. waste by the employees. bet you complain about your taxes too. You should have been fired.
(Trumpism) |
My bad I didn't mention this was 40 yrs ago and a Coast Guard vehicle used for rescues also. I guess its a good thing AMC/Jeep didn't our make boats.
BTW your rant doesn't hold water either. |
I suggest you Forward link to this thread to the CG inspector general's tip line,
Let the IG determine the proper course to crimes confessed to on the internet.
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BeemerDan
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | | Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out, So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol. |
No wonder gov't spending is out of control. waste by the employees. bet you complain about your taxes too. You should have been fired.
(Trumpism) |
My bad I didn't mention this was 40 yrs ago and a Coast Guard vehicle used for rescues also. I guess its a good thing AMC/Jeep didn't our make boats.
BTW your rant doesn't hold water either. |
I suggest you Forward link to this thread to the CG inspector general's tip line,
Let the IG determine the proper course to crimes confessed to on the internet.
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Have at it. I'm pretty sure Gillette disposed of the evidence by now.
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mtgoat666
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Don't need any physical evidence when they got a confession.
| Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | | Quote: Originally posted by norte | | Quote: Originally posted by BeemerDan | At one of my old duty stations we had a 76 Cherokee Chief we would drive on beach patrol each morning/evening. That POS didn't last a year and a half
before it rusted the tailgate off, Fenders and the body mounts on the frame with 9000 on it.
GSA wouldn't give us a new one unless the motor or trans went out, So we
drained the oil and took it for one last beach patrol. |
No wonder gov't spending is out of control. waste by the employees. bet you complain about your taxes too. You should have been fired.
(Trumpism) |
My bad I didn't mention this was 40 yrs ago and a Coast Guard vehicle used for rescues also. I guess its a good thing AMC/Jeep didn't our make boats.
BTW your rant doesn't hold water either. |
I suggest you Forward link to this thread to the CG inspector general's tip line,
Let the IG determine the proper course to crimes confessed to on the internet.
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Have at it. I'm pretty sure Gillette disposed of the evidence by now. |
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BeemerDan
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Damn I knew when I murdered that jeep it would come back and bite me in the ass.
Would you feel better Goat if I told you I recycled the oil back into the crankcase after I did the dirty deed?
Here's another confession, I was a 44' motor lifeboat Coxwain way back when. One day the port engine went nuclear (runaway diesel) and blew up before
I could hit the shutdown stops.
Both engines had about 20.000 hours on them close to the lifespan, The district in their infinite wisdom only wanted the port engine replaced. I
argued that SAR season was approaching and we couldn't afford to have a boat in "Charlie Status", So I doubled up the lines, Fired up the starboard
engine shoved her in gear, throttled to the stops, and went to the messdeck for coffee, Had chow then a nap.
9 hours later the stbd engine coughed, sputtered and died.
Last I heard that old boat ran well into the 90's before Gillette took command.
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