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fishinrich
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protect your dogs from snakes!!
Last week as roja and I were walking through the desert south of mulege we crossed paths with a very large rattler. It had at least 9 sections on
it's rattle and was big and fat. To protect my dog I have her vaccinated every six months with a vaccine that creates an immunity in dogs that helps
neutralize the complex mix of toxins in snake venom. Here in san diego I have it done at the singing hills animal hospital, 619-441-5850. The cost
is $18 per shot and is required every six months to keep the immunity up. If the shot was approved for humans I would get one also but no such luck
as of yet. fishin rich
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jrbaja
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Hey Rich
Can you get the name of the medication please. San Diego is a fer piece from the snakes in south Baja.
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DanO
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Good advice
One of my neighbors lost a curious dog to a rattler last summer.
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fishinrich
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vaccine
JR---The manufacturer of the vaccine is red rock biologics based in woodland hills. www.redrocksgiologics.com or 866-897-7625.
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Bob H
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I never knew this existed - and why wouldn't it work on humans? We live on a canyon and my dog has seen rattlers about 4 or 5 times - she just
freezes and then runs away.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Ken Cooke
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My two Chihuahuas have to go with me and my wife on the Pole Line Road next week, and I was real worried about rattlers. I will get the dogs
immunized before we leave next Thursday. Thanks so much for this important information.
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synch
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Be very careful this time of year
Spring time brings out many rattlers and the small babies are the most dangerous as their arttles have not fully developed - so there is no warning to
a bite. I nearly walked on one last March and turned around after passing it and bent down to look closer (but at a safe distance. At first I
thought it was dead but it then moved away.
Be very careful this time of year.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Rattlesnakes
If you are Hiking it is best to carry a walking Stick, be wary of Piled up debris around the base of a Tree,when climbing over rock watch for Dens,
just after a rain on a hot day is the time Rattlers will move out from their hiding Places.
years ago we always had chewong tabocco with a sharp Knife in a small bag.
If struck by a Rattler, you did the criss/cross cut on the Fang Hole and then sucked several mouthfuls out of the wound.
You can buy these Kits with the small rubber Syringe at any medical counter. they can be used on the dog if he has not had the immune shot. If the
snake is Large I would use it on him even if h has had the shot.
Please keep in mind that the Dead Rattler is excellent Eating.
Skeet/Loreto
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yankeeirishman
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Mt Wilson was Dad's favorite place to hike. We would do this hike a dozen times a year. For dozens of years! Lots of snakies on the Chantry Flats
trial. We were taught (my brother and I) to always find a "Y" stick to walk with. It's a simple stick that has an 2 inch long Y on it's end. 4-5 feet
long is the main handle stick. Lite weight. See a snake, use the Y to clamp down on it's head.
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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Skeet/Loreto
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Rattlesnake Capitol Of the World
The little ole Farm I was rasied on in At Weetwater Texas, to this day still holds the World Recor Rattle Snake Den.
If you need any further info go to Goggle and Seardh Rattle sSnake Captiol of the World.Skeet
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bajablue
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I got my dog vaccinated at Singing Hills as well. They are great over there and I recomend it to all dog owners, to be on the safe side...
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bajapablo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
years ago we always had chewong tabocco with a sharp Knife in a small bag.
If struck by a Rattler, you did the criss/cross cut on the Fang Hole and then sucked several mouthfuls out of the wound.
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Depends upon where the bite is.
\"changes it lattitudes, changes in attitudes\"
J.Buffet
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backninedan
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If you get bit on the butt, its a good way to tell who your friends reallllly are.
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gringorio
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rattlesnakes
Yikes! I've seen a rattler in Baja only once - Maybe Graham Mackintosh ate them all!
In some places I've noticed plenty of sidewinder tracks above the beach in the sandy areas. Makes me worry about walking barefoot at night to stare
at the stars! Anyone know about sidewinder behavior?
I took the attached photo in Arizona, just a few miles north of the Mexican border near Elgin. I was cruising along trying to get back from a long
day of birding work and nearly stepped on him. We scared the heck out of each other.
[Edited on 3-26-2005 by gringorio]
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Skeet/Loreto
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giro
Good Photo of a Nice Rattler!
for your infor: Each year at the Sweetwater Texas, Rattlesnake Capitol of the World, Snakes are taken by the 1oo's out of the Den on our old Farm
about 7 miles south of Sweetwater. The Animal Nuts have been trying to cause a ruckas about taking Reptiles, only to find out that the Population of
the Den has Increased instead of Decreased.
Interesting?
skeet/Loreto
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gringorio
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snake!
Some animals have been shown to increase the number of young and decrease the age at which they can reproduce when they are under pressure, whether
from humans or other things. I'm not sure if this is the case with rattlesnakes or not. There could be many other factors at play as well.
At any rate, rattlesnakes as well as other snakes do play a vital role where ever they live by predating insects and small mammals like mice and rats.
When we were kids growing up on the ranch we were told to kill any rattlesnake we saw, and we did. But as I got older and educated myself a bit I no
longer kill them and actually admire them very much. I find it is usually the city folks who automatically react with the kill it kill it!
attitude. In the 50 years the ranch has existed not one horse or person was ever bitten by a rattlesnake. Below is a photo taken last summer on the
ranch.
You just have to use common sense around rattlesnakes. 
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David K
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April is Rattlesnake Month in Baja!
In one week, we saw three rattlers!
Snake #1, at Mision Santa Maria:
Snake #2, at Montevideo:
Snake #3, on the San Francisquito road, between Camp Gecko and the Las Animas turnoff:
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yankeeirishman
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Come on davidK....we can see the "Made in China" tag on that rubber snake in your photo.
I agree...don?t go killing off everything that scares ya! Hell.... if I killed what scares me...there be no more Mother in Law!  As with most animals...they will defend themselves....it?s their turf.
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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BajaDave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishinrich
JR---The manufacturer of the vaccine is red rock biologics based in woodland hills. www.redrocksgiologics.com or 866-897-7625. |
The correct website for the manufacturer is:
http://www.redrockbiologics.com
It might be a good idea to edit your post to fix that, so folks interested in getting more information for their vet will not have to get to here in
this post to locate the correct URL for the manufacturer's website.
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Don Jorge
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Does this work?
I am wondering. If antivenom is given specific to the species of rattlesnake one has been bitten by and if on the redrockbiologics web page they
state: "There are many different poisonous snakes. Red Rock Biologics is developing a variety of vaccines to provide the best protection against
poisonous snakes for dogs in each part of the country. Ask your veterinarian which available vaccine formulation is best for your dog."
Then does it not make sense your dog would have to be vaccinated for the specific species your dog was bitten by, ie specific sidewinders, specific
diamondbacks etc.?
Just wondering if anyone has had any personal experience concerning the efficacy of this product or seen any peer reviewed publication?
Thanks!
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