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thebajarunner
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Baja 500- mid-July??
I see by the SCORE website that the 500 is scheduled for July 14-17.
So, how do they propose to run this event and handle massive crowds when they are still having checkpoints to keep out visitors?
Everything you read about the COVID says that Mexico is still far from peaking.
Personally I love the SCORE events. Competed in them myself for 12 years. But having one in mid July hardly seems feasible, given the lack of
progress in controlling the epidemic down there.
What am I missing????
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del mar
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saw this yesterday at RDC......
"Just got word from credible source in Baja, that public events (racing, concerts,etc) are cancelled for 2020, such activities renew in 2021."
thats all I know
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David K
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Off-Road Racing itself is very socially distant... by its own nature. The issue is spectating by groups or crowds... You just can't expect people to
stay at home when a world-famous event is happening in your neighborhood!
Score is taking registration for the 500...
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del mar
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | You just can't expect people to stay at home when a world-famous event is happening in your neighborhood!
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you certainly can! 
SX on at 2pm.....looks like a mudder
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TMW
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I expect SCORE to keep moving it as necessary depending on the conditions. Maybe they won't have any races we'll just have to wait and see. The next
date to watch is June 22 which I think is the date they say the border will open. But they may move it to another date.
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Ensenada will be packed beforehand. I bet the city has a lot to say about whether or not it happens.
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del mar
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
Ensenada will be packed beforehand. I bet the city has a lot to say about whether or not it happens.
[Edited on 6-7-2020 by SFandH] |
the start will be Lucas stadium.....but a great opportunity to move the start out of town....I wouldn't hold my breath for this one though
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motoged
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | ....You just can't expect people to stay at home when a world-famous event is happening in your neighborhood!
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You just can't expect people to stay at home when a world-famous virus is happening in your neighborhood! 
Don't believe everything you think....
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | ....You just can't expect people to stay at home when a world-famous event is happening in your neighborhood!
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You just can't expect people to stay at home when a world-famous virus is happening in your neighborhood! |
Not if they can go out and destroy businesses (or dirt roads in the desert)! LOL
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Pacifico
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Well, the virus obviously doesn't go to protests and riots, so maybe the virus won't go to off-road races???
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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gnukid
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Here is the phased opening PLAN-DEM-IC of the GOB MX. Already many businesses are open, transit is open and unrestricted, flights, stores, services,
all will be open according to plan by end of June, already we are at about 50% open, but actually much more. Race Cars are ready and more being built
for the event. There is nothing risky about car racing in regard to CV. All people will come into contact with all regional viruses, everyday as a
normal part of life. Isolation and masks do not reduce impact or risk while they di increase health risks. People need to work, go out, people need to
be free to live, work, and play, there is nothing healthy about restricting people freedom, even if some ignorant seniors fear the unknown, the fantom
of virus, which passes all locations rapidly, everyone is in contact with virus in one of three states, pre-infection, infection or recovery. Being
together improves immunity, shielding, health, etc. Ignorance is not a justification for destroying the economy and mental, physical and financial
health of Baja, regardless if a few seniors fear their own limitations, though can't seem to manage their own health, they want to restrict others
health! Hypocrites caused great harm to Baja during this manufactured crisis, poor people have no food, no work, are restricted from work and earning
an income to survive, all because retired gringos fear catching a cold or flu they will inevitably catch anyway. Sad, no devastating what has been
done to Baja all based on lack of science and fear, conflicting messages, lack of leadership, corruption of biopharma in the name of health while
leading the people to an early death from poverty. Disgusting some of the ignorant comments from Nomads, based in their own fear of death, while they
are obese, smoke, drink, lazy, they can't take care of their own health but they want to restrict poor Mexicans from working, disgusting, rich,
ignorant, retirees, causing harm to every poor person in baja by promoting isolation and face masks that both cause significant harm to mental,
physical and financial health. https://covid19.cdmx.gob.mx/storage/app/media/plan%20gradual...
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motoged
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That's a mouthful ....
Don't believe everything you think....
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gnukid
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People are prerunning races, just not announcing it, attendees include Delegados, Policia, Gob, Mil, everything ins proceeding as normal, though there
is a dichotomy between reality and false memes and conflicting messages. The people are very tired of the lies, they are manifesting today at many
locations, Mil and Gob are afraid to cause more harm, based on nothing more than fear driven memes. They have killed people for not wearing masks in
recent days, imprisoned old lady for walking alone, arrested joggers, the people are very tired, all the while WalMart, Soriana, Ley, Chedrui, Mega,
HomeDepot, SamsClub, mines, construction, etc. are open, the hypocrisy is in everyones face and so intentional, that ultimate is the new plan is
called PLAN-DEM-IIC anyone paying attention? FYI here is the new race car for Baja 500 we are building 24/7 to be ready to race according to
regulations.
[Edited on 6-8-2020 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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Here is a landscape of the dichotomy of CV fear, fueled by ignorance, creating violence and murder all for a false meme, "flatten the curve", to
promote isolation, delay of the inevitable infection supported largely by ignorant seniors living in fear of their own mortality who couldn't be
bothered to take care of themselves, exercise regularly, eat a healthy diet, breathe fresh air, go outside, cut bad habits and manage their own
healthy lives, who prefer to project their fears on others, avoid their own issues, deny their pre-existing illnesses, and cause harm to poor, while
destroying economies and futures, based on nothing more than false memes, devoid of actual health policy leadership. Lemmings, lunging off a cliff to
their deaths while dragging all in the vicinity along with them. Shame on those of you Ignorant Nomads, you know who is guilty and who carries the
blame for supporting and encouraging this tragedy.
Police and Military don't wear masks while they harass others for not wearing masks?
https://partidero.com/denuncia-multa-de-policia-vial-por-no-...
Multi Agency Exercises Arresting People Aggressively for not wearing masks outdoors
https://www.facebook.com/noticiasvallarta/videos/87400115309...
Plebes fighting Police in the streets for harassing and murdering citizens for not wearing masks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMM67sZPBI8
Assassination for not wearing masks
https://laverdadnoticias.com/espectaculos/Guillermo-del-Toro...
Citizens burn police cars for murdering citizen without mask
https://policiascorruptos.com/2020/06/04/en-guadalajara-quem...
Division and disruption in the name of corruption of health
https://policiascorruptos.com/2020/06/07/queman-patrullas-po...
Estres de CV es una problema psicología
https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2020/05/20/con-ansied...
Justice for victims of violence in the name of health
https://www.tabascohoy.com/piden-justiciaparagiovanni-presun...
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | ...poor people have no food, no work, are restricted from work and earning an income to survive, all because retired gringos fear catching a cold or
flu they will inevitably catch anyway. |
Wait, you're saying it's the expat population who's responsible for Mexican government policies?
I was sorta able to follow you to that point... <shrug> |
NO, I AM SAYING THAT WITHIN THIS FORUM, SOME NOMADS SUPPORT IGNORANT POLICES, THAT SUPPORT FUELS IGNORANT GOB ACTIONS IN RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES, LIKE
LOS BARILLES, LA VENTANA, TODOS SANTOS, CABO, SAN FELIPE, MULEGE, ETC. SOMEHOW LORETO HAS SOME SANITY LEFT. LENCHO DO NOT PLAY INTO THIS NONSENSE,
TIME TO END FEAR MONGERING, TODAY.
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bajatrailrider
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In my town they always grade the course 1 month before 500/1000. They did just that last week so I followed it on my Moto. It went into mine works
but did not keep going on course . One hotel owner getting ready for next month on the 22. Still no proof it happens. True they are lighting up
restrictions. Also true more people have virus now.
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thebajarunner
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GNu.... I like your enthusiasm,
but you are probably a bit out in front on all of this
The off road racing does not spread the virus
But the masses the swarm Ensenada for days will be pretty lethal.
LATimes this morning reports on the poor El Centro hospital that is literally inundated with the inflow from Mexicali of sick people
Choppering them all over the West to find safe places.
It also notes that Chula Vista has more cases than San Diego.
Gee, wonder why????
Oh, and I like your enthusiasm about building your race car.
I built one once upon a time, did pretty well with it too.
I am just smiling when you say that in four weeks your little frame skeleton will be a real race car.
Please send photos of your progress and completion.....
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gnukid
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Pointing out false statement... this is projection based on no data nor represents evidence in the field. False and misleading fear mongering which is
harmful, stick to facts, based on evidence, not projections based on fear.
Three physical states exist in relation to contact with CV virus or any of thousands of viruses you come into contact with daily, pre-infection,
infection, recuperation, all people have been in contact or will be in contact with COVID-19, like all viruses, the range of response, varies from no
noticeable response for the majority since their health and immunity is strong, minor symptom such as dry cough, to a very small number of severe
response generally associated to geriatric people with pre-existing illnesses and weak immunity, no actual report of actual excess deaths has been
reported by CDC officially, only provisional or modeled numbers of cases and deaths.
CDC Excess common flu death rates for comparison, see page 39 for excess flu deaths in USA for 2004, (takes a decade to validate and resolve errors)
note actual number is 500 excess deaths not 50,000 excess deaths. Oftentimes, flu deaths are conflated with pneumonia, when separated flu deaths are
few and far between, actually practically zero according to CDC's own data.
Omg attached below is pg 39 noting actual excess deaths from flu in 2004 in USA is 500, you should be jumping for joy. Why does CDC so often say 50k+
a year for USA alone, just to promote a vaccine which has a track record of high risk and no evidence of efficacy? Hmmmm?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_04.pdf see page 39
No excess deaths from COVID-19 are reported today, currently excess deaths are negative, meaning less than last year. It will take a long time to
unravel the errors noting suspected deaths, ruling out other causes, read the technical note, entirely. No Excess Deaths are Officially reported.
Gringo Locos!
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
CDC states no excess deaths are officially reported if you read the official reports and their technical notes, actually yer to year we are at a
negative, meaning fewer deaths this year than last. Likely due to fewer hospital related deaths, fewer surgeries, fewer providers of optional elective
health services means fewer deaths, as entering the hospital is the most common cause fo death in the USA.
Projected excess CV death rate similar to cold, common flu, %.26 https://reason.com/2020/05/24/the-cdcs-new-best-estimate-imp...
While we often hear of high numbers of deaths for common flu, 50-80k a year, and high number of deaths from CV, when we look at actual excess deaths,
validated and verified, which takes a very long time to rule out other causes, injuries, suicides pre-existing illnesses, cofactors of pre-morbidity,
pneumonia conflated along with flu, errors in testing and reporting as admitted by CDC, we find the actual number of deaths from Flu is very low,
though when CDC summarizes actually data it is often looking back ten years, so a report would be 11 years old minimum to be accurate, at that point
we lost the attention of Geriatric Baja Nomads, or they die of natural causes.
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-cdc-confirm...
Looking at the flu vaccine in the USA, reports of negative impacts, lawsuits based on severe injury, there are more reports of severe negative impact
then provisional deaths mean more are hard than die if we accept a worst case number of excess deaths, and no evidence of efficacy, meaning deaths
could have been a result of vaccine, Flu Vaccine is comparatively the most dangerous vaccine in the USA. But don't let me confuse you with CDC
published data, while you jump off a cliff because the sky is falling , my sardine swimming into the mouth of a shark!
Here I'll share the CDC reports and you can look at them, but you won't cause that's no fun when you can restrict pueblierinos with no car, from
leaving their house while you cruise with AC from your Mansion to Walmart, you self-servigin Gringo Nomad, nihilists.
Here is a landscape of sourced articles, these are not my opinion, this is an example of broad public domain info that evolves the COVID-19 narrative
from one of pandemia, to a narrative of a flu-like corona virus, that is common, very little impact, few show symptoms, few deaths, quite different
from the doom and gloom, apocalyptic pandemic narrative promoted by Fauci, and by Nomads recently, all of that nonsense has been walked back, b ut the
message is not getting through to senior Nomads with short attention spans. There is no fantom virus, the virus is fear and ignorance and their is no
vaccine to solve and epidemic ignorance and arrogance except curiosity and skepticism, available now on sale Solo Cinco Pesos.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-tho...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/breaking-italian-he...
https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-project-veritas-finds-n...
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-face-masks...
https://www.ccn.com/cdc-commits-unthinkable-errors-can-send-...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/coronavirus-t...
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MrBillM
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Gnudist Snooze Newz
And the Dumbbeat goes on .......................... zzzzzzzzzzzz.
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bajatrailrider
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Is this turning into soap opera here we go again.
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