Santiago
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Boat battery question
My Baja boat (now in NorCal) has two group 24 marine starting batteries, going thru a Perko selector switch, standard OFF-1-BOTH-2. Either June 2017
or June 2018 I replaced #2 with a Cabelas AGM. #1 is a standard flooded cell lead acid marine starting.
I have no clue how the boat batteries are wired but I do know the following:
#1 typical battery cables and a few smaller wires to both terminals.
#2 only has large battery cables.
The boat will not start unless there are two batteries, even if one of them is dead and the switch is on the the good one.
During the last three years, the Perko switch has been on #1, never moved to the AGM. I pulled both batteries today and #1 had typical corrosion on
the terminals, #2 was clean, looked brand new. I hooked the AGM up to my "Smart" charger and after going thru its analysis startup, started charging
at 7 amps. Normally a deep cell battery will start at 25 amps and slowly drop as the battery becomes charged, sometimes taking 6 to 8 hours to
finally shut off. Am I to assume that at 7 amps the AGM was still in a mostly-charged condition?
Further, was it being charged by the motor charging system even though the Perko was set to the other battery all this time?
Lastly, how can I test an AGM, obviously can't use specific gravity, right?
And let's dispense with comments about turning in my man card and the like, I will stipulate to all that.
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Engine charging system only charges the selected battery if everything is wired correctly. I usually have the selector to both when making a long run
and #1 when reaching destination. #1 battery is wired to run pretty much everything - #2 is there if I need it - which I seldom have during my 45
years of boating.
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Quote: Originally posted by Santiago  |
The boat will not start unless there are two batteries, even if one of them is dead and the switch is on the the good one.
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That makes me think the switch is wired incorrectly. Find the wiring schematic at the manufacturers website and check it out.
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Jim
It does sound like the agm battery was nearly charged so that is why only 7 amps at charge start. If your battery sw is always on #1 then that is the
only battery that would charge while motor is running.
State of Charge on a AGM battery in your situation is probably done by batt voltage. 12.7 to 12.9 being fully charged.
Battery switches are pretty simple, and yours sounds like something is wired wrong since you have to have to have 2 batteries installed for it to
start. To check the wiring on your sw just make sure that the positive cable from batt 1 goes to terminal 1 on the back of the switch. Then connect
the positive of batt 2 to the #2 terminal on the back of the sw. Now connect your motors main wire harness positive battery cable to the common
terminal on the back of the sw. Next you can eliminate the small wires coming from the #1 battery by running a wire large enough to carry all your
secondary loads from the common terminal to a fuse block and then from the fuse block to your radios, bilge pumps, etc. Battery negative wires connect
to your motors main wire harnesses negative lead. Wired that way when you turn the battery sw off everything turns off which is nice if you have an
electrical short and need to shut everything down.
Good luck with it.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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Santiago
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Turns out I was wrong, again. Everything runs fine with one battery installed and switch to that. Also, the smaller leads on #1 is only two
grounds, looks like #10 or 12. I will follow those and see where they go, The positive terminal only has one battery cable going to the switch, The
common on the back of the switch does have a lead to the fuse block so that is normal.
I find it kind of amazing that the AGM held a charge for 2-3 years just sitting.
This boat is starting to get used more, in 2017 thru 2019 I doubt there was ever more than 20 hours each year.
However, the salt rust on the trailers cross beams look pretty bad, I will need to replace those.
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