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gnukid
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Biden needs to open the border to massive human trafficking and high power arms sales to cartels to create destabilization and chaos like he did with
Obama and Holder the last time.
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pacificobob
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I'm not buying it without footnotes,links or cut and paste references.
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pacificobob
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let's be hopeful it was the former .
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gnukid
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Under Obama/Biden there were about 1million kids trafficked across the border from Mexico per year, and nearly 1 million USA kids gone missing each
year. Those numbers are way down under Trump. We've got to get those numbers up to lower oligarch factory labor costs etc. otherwise rich people will
pay more at Christmas.
Fast and Furious and Gun Walking were genius programs under Obama/Biden/Holder to traffic massive number of high power arms, 40 caliber semi automatic
weapons, untracked, that included extensive cartel meetings in the whitehouse! Let's get back to the good ol days of being number in murder worldwide
in BCS! C'Mon Man! What are you are dog faced pony soldier!
Biden is a great guy!
[Edited on 11-22-2020 by gnukid]
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mtgoat666
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I can agree with that sentence!
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Pronoun: the royal we
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pacificobob
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X2!
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Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  | Under Obama/Biden there were about 1million kids trafficked across the border from Mexico per year, and nearly 1 million USA kids gone missing each
year.
[Edited on 11-22-2020 by gnukid] |
1 in 300 Americans are trafficked in to Mexico every year? 1 in 100 American's under the age of 18 go missing every year? How is that even possible?!
Oh, that's right, it's not. These numbers are ginned up by Q-Anon related conspiracy networks that have focused on child trafficking, watched Taken
too many times, and now grossly over exaggerate the rate of missing and kidnapped children in America. In truth fewer than 400 children are abducted
by strangers each year in America. Most missing children in America are either running away from troubled families, or taken by a parent as a part of
a custody dispute.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-child-...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wisconsin-missinggirl-dat...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_in_the_United_State...
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gnukid
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https://www.factretriever.com/human-trafficking-facts
Mexicans and citizens from other countries are trafficked to and from USA in numbers that are unknown though we can extrapolate from the number of
known captures of trafficked children traveling with Coyotes, it is established that in the USA nearly one million (800,000+) children go missing
every year, likely far more go unreported. 2000 children go missing every day.
https://newspunch.com/800k-children-pedophilia-globe/
The numbers of missing and murdered children and women are staggering, though many, including "Apple" make light of it and give excuses, such as they
are runaways, or just traveling, or fell out the system.
https://news.northeastern.edu/2019/08/16/human-trafficking-i...
Femincide of Mexican women is epidemic in border regions such as Jaurez.
This year there have been mass arrests of child traffickers in USA, and many rescues, but it just the tip of the iceberg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbHjLVVCRo
https://www.foxnews.com/us/human-trafficking-in-america-amon...
When people complain about children separated from parents at the border they overlook, that the children are abandoned by their traffickers who are
certainly not their parents, parents do not abandon children to the degree that children are abandoned at the border.
https://calmatters.org/commentary/my-turn/2020/11/california...
It is an epidemic, all reported numbers are under-reporting the true total, since there are always more undiscovered.
For eons, military complex companies such as Haliburton, Dyncorp, and Pentagon Contractors have been implicated in trafficking humans, and in cities
in California there are high numbers of trafficked women working, as well as in farm labor camps etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKFEEghfEgE
https://corpwatch.org/article/us-dyncorp-disgrace
https://corpwatch.org/article/us-dyncorp-disgrace
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/15/bosnia-sex-tra...
https://trello.com/b/KdjpFSGS/dyncorp-crimes-by-country
https://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/halliburton-s...
It's not something to dismiss and ignore, not now, with Biden and Obama on the verge of opening borders to human trafficking once again.
https://newspunch.com/800k-children-pedophilia-globe/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-0512270176dec27-story.htm...
[Edited on 12-1-2020 by gnukid]
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apple
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I'm not making light of anything, I am though pointing out the fact that you are grossly misrepresenting the statistics and the data regarding missing
children. It is just not possible for ONE MILLION Mexican children to be trafficked across the border into the US each year, and it is ridiculous to
assert as much.
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John Harper
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Operation Wide Receiver was the previous administration's version of Fast and Furious. Neither operation seemed a very good idea to me.
John
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pacificobob
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gnukid, I'm sorry your life has turned out this way. try to find some peace.
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gnukid
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https://uaht.org/is-human-trafficking-the-worst-its-ever-bee...
https://news.un.org/en/story/2019/01/1031552
https://borgenproject.org/tag/human-trafficking-in-mexico/
It's worrisome first and foremost how prevalent defiant ignorance is among some Nomads and worse how it accompanies arrogance, I assume this response
is likely based in fear and cognitive dissonance.
Anyone traveling to Baja should be aware that Mexico and USA have a human trafficking problem that is at its worst in all history, the TJ -California
border is among the worst in the world for human trafficking.
Each trafficked person has an immediate value or tax to Cartels of 5k+ and that cost is paid by every one of us in addition to the cost of lives, and
continued accumulated costs. Trafficking is a commodity supported by corrupt governments, military industrial complex and large scale agribusiness and
manufacturing.
Illegal immigration at its core is not just tolerated by supported to reduce labor costs, and put pricing pressure on legal labor.., in addition to
sexual slavery, forced prostitution, slave labor agriculture and manufacturing camps,
Costs are passed to everyone through costs of policing, crime, resulting mental and physical disorders, added cost to security, all of that is passed
on to each one us.
Trafficked children don't simply escape and recover.
Cartel crime is a high cost and TJ-California, Arizona, Texas etc are among the worst places in the world for human trafficking.
Worse yet is the harm done to women and children, who suffer from abuse, many are killed, and while some may escape, recovery is extremely difficult.
Situational awareness can help to reduce crimes, pay attention to people around you, be aware and willing to help. Do not ignore the high cost of
trafficking to human lives and to each one of us.
[Edited on 12-2-2020 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by apple | | I'm not making light of anything, I am though pointing out the fact that you are grossly misrepresenting the statistics and the data regarding missing
children. It is just not possible for ONE MILLION Mexican children to be trafficked across the border into the US each year, and it is ridiculous to
assert as much. |
Nearly one million (800,000+) children IN THE USA go missing each year.
Mexico - USA border is used to Traffick humans south to north and north to south from many countries in and out of the Americas to the USA and vice
versa.
https://meaww.com/sex-and-modern-slavery-southern-border-us-...
They are not only Mexican children being trafficked to the north, it's children from all around the world as well as women and men, using the border
as a avenue to move humans, drugs, weapons, contraband of many kinds.
It is reported that perhaps %20 of major label goods that arrive in the USA are black market (copies/fakes made in slave labor camps) while many major
manufactures have incidental slave labor, including Apple, Nike, etc.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3290370/fake-products-...
https://footwearnews.com/2019/business/retail/footwear-count...
https://sgbonline.com/report-20-percent-of-athletic-goods-ar...
https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/trends/20-of-the-product...
https://daxueconsulting.com/counterfeit-products-in-china/
The issue of numbers is not something to get hung up on.
There will be "Reported" cases, and "Unreported" cases, also known as Known and Unknown.
For every case reported there are many more unreported.
Nearly every product you purchase has some relationship to human trafficking, cell phones, computers, agriculture, textiles etc. and worse sex
industry, porn, prostitution, pedophilia etc.
It is incumbent on everyone, both Men and Women to rise up and support their communities, stop crime, speak up about the known cases of abuse, and be
vigilant to protect family and community when out and about, open your eyes, increase situational awareness, pay attention, watch for clues of human
trafficking around you and take action to stop it.
[Edited on 12-2-2020 by gnukid]
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caj13
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Those are horrific numbers Gnuey, why didn't your orange overlord put a stop to this? You seem to be wanting to Blame a guy who was a private
citizen the past 4 years with no power. How come those in power did nothing?
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by caj13 | | Those are horrific numbers Gnuey, why didn't your orange overlord put a stop to this? You seem to be wanting to Blame a guy who was a private
citizen the past 4 years with no power. How come those in power did nothing? |
Projection and deflection to dichotomy is often a tool used to deflect from personal responsibility, little grasshopper. You are blessed to continue
your difficult journey to arrive at personal awareness of your strength and presence as a capable, honest and moral human who contributes to a better
world through action. May you find Peace in your journey.
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While I do not deny that human trafficking is a serious issue that deserves greater attention, some of the numbers being bandied about seem grossly
inflated.
Here are different numbers. They are not "my" numbers so please don't shoot the messenger. I'm just posting the links.
https://www.state.gov/reports/2020-trafficking-in-persons-re...
https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/human-trafficking
[Edited on 12-2-2020 by Mr. Bills]
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gnukid
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It's important to be comfortable with variations in numbers of reports, due to competing agendas and of course, the "reported" numbers are a portion,
a fraction, of unknown degree.
For any topic, subject, analysis, one must be comfortable with consideration for the unknown, based on the known, extrapolate, consider factors, etc.
Taking in account the "known" numbers of human trafficking in the USA of just children, women and men, the numbers are shockingly high, at minimum
1:300 people are trafficked, at worst it's higher 1:200 or 1:100.
Or you could argue that the reports are false and its all made up and never happened, if that makes you sleep better.
Point is, there is a cost to you personally regardless of the amount, you pay, you are suffering the consequences of stress, crime, increased costs,
taxes, etc. you are paying to support human trafficking by cartels supported by global corporations and military industrial complex, run by sociopaths
who enjoy controlling others for profit or worse.
Open your eyes, work together to keep an eye out for suspicious people, situations, and strange activity stick together, stay safe and use technology
to your advantage to communicate and capture evidence and take action.
[Edited on 12-2-2020 by gnukid]
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Jack Swords
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Typically, too many non credible sources are listed...just because sources are listed does not contribute to the validity of the poster.
A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to
credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation
for the purpose of profit or influence.
Newspunch being tagged as a source simply demeans any further posting validity. Using Google to affirm one's point to select "sources" to scatter
through out postings contributes little to readers. Most will simply verify these selected "sources" and that just becomes tiresome.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/news-punch/
News Punch (aka YourNewsWire) is a far right-wing conspiracy and pseudoscience website that also routinely publishes fake news.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Jack Swords | Typically, too many non credible sources are listed...just because sources are listed does not contribute to the validity of the poster.
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are you saying footwearnews.com is not a reliable source for human trafficking figures?!
[Edited on 12-3-2020 by apple]
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John Harper
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OMG. First, it was Covid denial, but now, with close to 300K dead, that's a bit hard to hold on to?
So, your next delusion is kidnapped and trafficked children? I thought "good guys with guns" would prevent these mass abductions? What's next,
Mothman or Slenderman are doing all these nefarious activities? Maybe the "Deep State?"
How about "Stop the Steal" for your next crusade? Send some money to Trump to help continue the struggle.
Gnukid, you are a classic piece of work. How do people like you come to think like this? It defies explanation.
John
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