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JZ
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What's the perfect boat for Baja and the Sea of Cortez?
What size and HP?
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TMW
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I thought you already had a nice boat.
On second thought you could buy a big party boat and take your good Nomad friends out.
[Edited on 12-29-2020 by TMW]
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bajarich
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Depends on what your doing with it. I had a lot of fun fishing with my beach launchable 14' Gregor with a 15 horse Honda.
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Barry A.
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Quote: Originally posted by bajarich  | | Depends on what your doing with it. I had a lot of fun fishing with my beach launchable 14' Gregor with a 15 horse Honda. |
Me too----------except I had a 15HP Johnson, for some 25 + years, taken too Baja on top of my Callen camper. Worked great for me, and mine. I was
influenced by "THE BAJA CATCH". (-:
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Mulege Canuck
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If you like sailing, a Windrider 17 is a great boat for Baja. You can find used ones on Craigslist. Use it as a party day trip boat with up to 6
people or two people for a longer trip.
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Alan
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What do you want to do with it? How many people do you want to do it with? Fish, Cruise or Sail?
"My" perfect boat was a 23' Parker Walkaround with a 250 Yamaha
In Memory of E-57
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Cancamo
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All depends on what you are doing on the water, and where.
If you don't want to be limited to the location of a ramp or marina, you need something light enough to launch over the beach. Tin boats with wheels
work well for near shore daily activities weather permitting.
Kayaks, inflatables, small sailboats and catamarans are also easy to launch, will get you on the water, although limited in range, and space.
For fishing, diving, boat camping, live well capacity, sea worthiness, and ease of launch and return nothing beats a panga in SOC waters.
Other hulls the same size or smaller can weigh so much that running up the beach out of the surf zone like a panga is not an option, and launching
over a beach can be difficult, if at all possible, short of using a tractor.
In order to access remote locations where no marina or ramp is available, (90% of the peninsula), the ability to reduce weight in order to launch
over the beach without burying your truck and trailer, and endangering yourself in the danger zone is a must. Many folks learn the hard way after
swamping their vessel, or worse, incurring an injury. Baja has it's way of thinning the herd.
Panga, 18-22 ft, 40-65HP. would be my in my wheelhouse, short of a live aboard.
Just look at what the people whom make a living every day on the water here use. Almost the entire in-shore commercial fishing and water
transportation community throughout Latin America uses a form of the same hull. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Regardless, any form to get on and enjoy the water is what it is all about.
Que la via bien!
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LancairDriver
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo | All depends on what you are doing on the water, and where.
If you don't want to be limited to the location of a ramp or marina, you need something light enough to launch over the beach. Tin boats with wheels
work well for near shore daily activities weather permitting.
Kayaks, inflatables, small sailboats and catamarans are also easy to launch, will get you on the water, although limited in range, and space.
For fishing, diving, boat camping, live well capacity, sea worthiness, and ease of launch and return nothing beats a panga in SOC waters.
Other hulls the same size or smaller can weigh so much that running up the beach out of the surf zone like a panga is not an option, and launching
over a beach can be difficult, if at all possible, short of using a tractor.
In order to access remote locations where no marina or ramp is available, (90% of the peninsula), the ability to reduce weight in order to launch
over the beach without burying your truck and trailer, and endangering yourself in the danger zone is a must. Many folks learn the hard way after
swamping their vessel, or worse, incurring an injury. Baja has it's way of thinning the herd.
Panga, 18-22 ft, 40-65HP. would be my in my wheelhouse, short of a live aboard.
Just look at what the people whom make a living every day on the water here use. Almost the entire in-shore commercial fishing and water
transportation community throughout Latin America uses a form of the same hull. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Regardless, any form to get on and enjoy the water is what it is all about.
Que la via bien!
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Very good advise! Thousands of fishermen south of the border must know something.
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motoged
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Thank you for your concern about my longevity.
I hope you enjoy your boat trips with JZ and the rest of his fan club.
I look forward to some drone footage....they are nice to watch.
Don't believe everything you think....
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mtgoat666
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2 best boats for baja are SUPs and kayaks.
for variety, try a wing with SUP, or put a sail on a kayak.
trailerable sailboat can be pretty fun.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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BajaParrothead
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I like my 27' Worldcat with twin 200's. Its fast, stable and cuts through the northerlies without spilling the coffee. The only drawback, is long
runs cost around $325 USD per day.
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AKgringo
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When all of the variables are factored in, such as, cost of ownership, type of use, transporting and/or storage, frequency of use....I prefer the FWB!
(friend with boat)
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Bajaboy
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I really enjoy my neighbor's boat!
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Drascombe of course!
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cancamo's advise is pretty good. The factors in Baja are significant, accesibility to fuel, launch ramps, etc.
remote areas dictate special accomidations, proximity to a big town can dictate another.
I have had the 15' westcoaster with a 15 hp tiller and a 18' cc parker with a yamaha 115hp and everything in between, typically I'd trade the boat to
a local when I'm ready to upgrade
yamaha's seem to be a local favorite, hence, easy to get repaired, maitenanced
a 18 - 20 cc can get you anywhere you would like to go, in fishable conditions ( I've slowly become a fair weather fisherman )
to each thier own, but big, gauwdy, slick boats that burn fuel may not be your best bet, for a number of common sense reasons. thats of coarse if your
in the typical Baja pueblo areas, if your in Cabo, La Paz, Ensenada, etc., u can live big ( if u like )
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mtgoat666
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I have been looking for a lugger or longboat forever,... rare to find used boats....
Got one? Wanna sell it?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | 2 best boats for baja are SUPs and kayaks.
for variety, try a wing with SUP, or put a sail on a kayak.
trailerable sailboat can be pretty fun. |
Have inflatable SUP and Kayak. Will put them on the hardtop.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo | All depends on what you are doing on the water, and where.
If you don't want to be limited to the location of a ramp or marina, you need something light enough to launch over the beach. Tin boats with wheels
work well for near shore daily activities weather permitting.
Kayaks, inflatables, small sailboats and catamarans are also easy to launch, will get you on the water, although limited in range, and space.
For fishing, diving, boat camping, live well capacity, sea worthiness, and ease of launch and return nothing beats a panga in SOC waters.
Other hulls the same size or smaller can weigh so much that running up the beach out of the surf zone like a panga is not an option, and launching
over a beach can be difficult, if at all possible, short of using a tractor.
In order to access remote locations where no marina or ramp is available, (90% of the peninsula), the ability to reduce weight in order to launch
over the beach without burying your truck and trailer, and endangering yourself in the danger zone is a must. Many folks learn the hard way after
swamping their vessel, or worse, incurring an injury. Baja has it's way of thinning the herd.
Panga, 18-22 ft, 40-65HP. would be my in my wheelhouse, short of a live aboard.
Just look at what the people whom make a living every day on the water here use. Almost the entire in-shore commercial fishing and water
transportation community throughout Latin America uses a form of the same hull. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Regardless, any form to get on and enjoy the water is what it is all about.
Que la via bien!
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I hear you, very good advice. I want to be able to do multi day trips from Loreto to LA Paz. With an occasional trip over to San Carlos on the
mainland.
Need twins and something that can handle good sized waves.
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BajaParrothead
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo | All depends on what you are doing on the water, and where.
If you don't want to be limited to the location of a ramp or marina, you need something light enough to launch over the beach. Tin boats with wheels
work well for near shore daily activities weather permitting.
Kayaks, inflatables, small sailboats and catamarans are also easy to launch, will get you on the water, although limited in range, and space.
For fishing, diving, boat camping, live well capacity, sea worthiness, and ease of launch and return nothing beats a panga in SOC waters.
Other hulls the same size or smaller can weigh so much that running up the beach out of the surf zone like a panga is not an option, and launching
over a beach can be difficult, if at all possible, short of using a tractor.
In order to access remote locations where no marina or ramp is available, (90% of the peninsula), the ability to reduce weight in order to launch
over the beach without burying your truck and trailer, and endangering yourself in the danger zone is a must. Many folks learn the hard way after
swamping their vessel, or worse, incurring an injury. Baja has it's way of thinning the herd.
Panga, 18-22 ft, 40-65HP. would be my in my wheelhouse, short of a live aboard.
Just look at what the people whom make a living every day on the water here use. Almost the entire in-shore commercial fishing and water
transportation community throughout Latin America uses a form of the same hull. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Regardless, any form to get on and enjoy the water is what it is all about.
Que la via bien!
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I hear you, very good advice. I want to be able to do multi day trips from Loreto to LA Paz. With an occasional trip over to San Carlos on the
mainland.
Need twins and something that can handle good sized waves.
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Another advantage to the Worldcat. Has a queen birth and a marine head that work well for multiday trips.
Very little roll when stopped to gaff a fish or when climbing aboard after a snorkel or dive.
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HeyMulegeScott
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | 2 best boats for baja are SUPs and kayaks.
for variety, try a wing with SUP, or put a sail on a kayak.
trailerable sailboat can be pretty fun. |
I want a wing now for my inflatable SUP! looks like fun. You know if something like this would work? https://ebay.us/ikDUC4
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