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chuckie
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NoWater in Mulege??
Got several messages indicating all water had been shut off in Mulege...wassup with that???
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HeyMulegeScott
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The water company can't pay the power bill so CFE cuts them off and they can't run the pumps. Looks like it is back on for a while.
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Sir Charles 
I dunno .... but, as a Mulege fan, I am curious as to what their water source is.
Hope your winter is going well. 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Quote: Originally posted by motoged  | Sir Charles
I dunno .... but, as a Mulege fan, I am curious as to what their water source is.
Hope your winter is going well. |
There are several wells supporting the Mulege water supply. One down the ice house road then left at the welding guy. They have a new well supplying
the new settlement down the carretera southbound. and the line extension goes back along the cerretera towards El Cacheno. One pump they put right
into the river a distance upriver. (Donno if SAPA is still doing that)
But SAPA has enough income to pay CFE. So I am wondering if that is the real reason. I doubt it. This happened before and it was said CFE had cut of
the power. Wasn`t true.
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motoged
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Thanks.
I figured it was river source west of town. The river seems to peter out pretty quickly in the palm groves west of the mission....is there a
significant water table there and westwards? Is there any water treatment or is it just pumped from well to pipes?
I have ridden the Raymundo Wash route to the Pacific a dozen times over the years.... and there are dam remnants along the way....and flooded/eroded
by those horrendous tropical storms. I have seen flotsam as high as 15 feet in tree tops at the height of land/divide.... never mind the evidence in
lower locations. It would be an epic experience to be in a safe spot and witness that level of nature at work. 
[Edited on 2-5-2021 by motoged]
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JC43
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Thanks.
I figured it was river source west of town. The river seems to peter out pretty quickly in the palm groves west of the mission....is there a
significant water table there and westwards? Is there any water treatment or is it just pumped from well to pipes?
I have ridden the Raymundo Wash route to the Pacific a dozen times over the years.... and there are dam remnants along the way....and flooded/eroded
by those horrendous tropical storms. I have seen flotsam as high as 15 feet in tree tops at the height of land/divide.... never mind the evidence in
lower locations. It would be an epic experience to be in a safe spot and witness that level of nature at work.
[Edited on 2-5-2021 by motoged] |
Well, not quite correct. The river has always water. The source is never dry. O.K., eastbound the palms are certainly taking whatever they need. But
that is not an issue talking the water supply for Mulege. As along town, SAPA is not taking river water for supply. The water situation in Mulege is
great. Under normal circumstances there is plenty of water available. Other towns like i.e. Loreto where there is a constant supply problem -- Mulege
can supply water to other towns. In summer you can see water trucks coming to Mulege and getting water for their settlement or hometown.
So peter out??? NO!
And this is why I do not believe this story about CFE cut of the power for the pumps. SAPA is charging serious money at the well. Especially if it is
a commercial truck - which all of them are. Good so. The water is sold i.e. to Posada or Loreto. Why not charging a good price? I know that even in
summer people in Mulege have a sufficient water. supply. Yes, the water is treated. At least at the well down ice house road. You can see it! What
treatment SAPA is using? No idea. But they do. BTW in case a hurricane is on the horizon, all pumps are cut off. As long as the water is not crystal
clear. I drove w/ my friends many times westwards towards the source. We filled up our water cans and we always drank the water. Upstream it taste
sweet like good water should. No different as in the US when you go upstream where no chemical plant or something like that can spoil the water. And
for sure there is not a single plant west of Mulege.
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Bob and Susan
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geezz
you'd think people would know their water source...
mulege has 2 wells with two 440volt pumps for residental and commercial use
there is not enough "head pressure" to supply the entire town at one time so some neighborhoods get water every other day
residents use tanks to store water for the "off days"
there are a few cement tanks on the hills to assist water storage and pressure
there are a few private wells for agriculture use but is is illegal to use that water for residential use
currently the water is not treated but clean and clear at the pump
the only time it may get cloudy is after a rain or if someone over greases the pump bearings
the river everone sees is an estuary...part salt water part fresh
the "real" river is underground
sapas website on facebook says they are having problems paying CFE
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Bob and Susan, that is correct somehow. The river is very visible if you drive upstream towards the divide. But downhill it is underground, correct.
It`s a long and rough/rocky way up there towards the source. What`s correct, yes in the outskirts of Mulege SAPA is only pumping every second day.
But with a cistern underground or a pillar (water tank) on the roof it is not a problem at all. You can see pillars all over Mexico. Down here in
Cabo most homes have two or three pillars on the roof. Securing tomorrow they call it. In Mulege only inside town SAPA is delivering water every day.
And only if the supply chain is connected to the well down ice house road. Do you know if the pump they used to set into the river is still in use?
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Pilas...water storage tanks. I have three here in Pescadero and our water service is good most of the time. But...when you need it you better have
backup!...just like with CFE and generator backup for A/C in summer. It's Mexico..BCS!
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motoged
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That was my impression...
I have never tried to go to a source point for the river.....but have seen isolated pockets of water of varying depths west of town ....depending on
season, etc.
I have only explored that area in months between October and March.
Don't believe everything you think....
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As this happens every year I have the dull feeling that SAPA is preparing the folks for an increase in payments. They certainly have enough money to
pay CFE. BUT: There are also a lot of homes in Mulege having illegal water lines SAPA doesn`t know about. (Mexicans do have steeling in their genes)
The former physician in Mulege Dr. Daniel Hector de Solis Silva once said: The worst enemy of a Mexican is the next Mexican.
It is a shame that SAPA is not capable to send two employees from door to door checking if or not there is water supply line to that specific house
and comparing that to their documents. If it is paid for or not. Then they would fast enough learn how to make money the appropriate way. Instead of
increasing the monthly payment for those who are honest and paying.
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"pillar"="pila".
Also the same word for "battery" and pronounced "pee'-lah"
I'm reminded of an ad on Craigslist Rhode Island that said they had an "amwa" in good shape.
Now, the New England accent pronounces that "ah-mwah".
I had to look at the picture to see an "armoire".
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Bob and Susan
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here in mulege they call a black tank a pila
its normal street talk
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Pila is the word used by the homeowners with one on top of their homes, south of San Felipe!
'Pila' is also applied to small reservoirs made for the missions and visitas of Baja by area ranchers/ farmers.
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pacificobob
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i believe pillar is a woman's name
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HeyMulegeScott
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English translation from La Voz del Pacífico 91.3 FM Facebook page -
CFE cuts electric light to water wells in Mulege; Oomsapas reconnects without authorization
Warrior black, Baja California Sur (BCS).- On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, the Federal Electricity Commission (CFE) suspended power supply to 3 water
extraction wells from the Palo Aqueduct Green, 2 in the Heroic Mulegé and also in the Vizcaino Valley.
The above, due to the debit that the Municipal Operating Agency of the Mulegé Water, Sewerage and Sanitation Service (Oomsapas) has with the
parastatal.
In an unreleased event, the Mollegian city council instead of approaching negotiation or covering the full debit, reconnected without prior permission
from the CFE sending municipal police elements to harass and prevent doing their job to employees of the power generating company.
It is not the first time that for the same reasons the CFE takes these kinds of actions: it is registered from June 17 and December 21, 2020, the
first time was due to a debit of 5 millions of pesos, however, neither in December nor now in February 2021, the Operating Agency has informed
citizenship about the total amount of debits.
Oomsapas Mulegé has repeatedly published newsletters on its official networks seeking to exempt their responsibility with a speech that blames the
deadly users and presents the CFE as indolent and unacceptable.
Efrain Patiño Estrada
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David K
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Pilar:
The official name of the 1720-1748 mission at La Paz is
Nuestra Señora del Pilar de la Paz Airapí
In 1748, the mission moved to Todos Santos, where the Airapí was dropped from the official name. In 1825, it moved again about a mile south. It
operated as a mission to about 1840 then continued as a parish church.
It made for an interesting story...
https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/la_paz_m...
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by HeyMulegeScott | English translation from La Voz del Pacífico 91.3 FM Facebook page -
Warrior black, Baja California Sur (BCS).
Palo Aqueduct Green
Mollegian city council
with a speech that blames the deadly users and presents the CFE as indolent and unacceptable.
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Was this Google Translate? And to think I've been telling people how much it's improved lately....  |
Deadly users? They must mean terminal, as in end user, but that is just my guess!
Sometimes when place names get translated it can be amusing, as well as confusing. An article I read about Pemex stations talked about Peace (La
Paz), and Fishmonger (Pescadero)!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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That makes more sense than my guess! Those customers with a tinaca/pila/pillar on their roof wouldn't really care how long it took to re-fill as long
as they had gravity feed water pressure.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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HeyMulegeScott
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by HeyMulegeScott | English translation from La Voz del Pacífico 91.3 FM Facebook page -
Warrior black, Baja California Sur (BCS).
Palo Aqueduct Green
Mollegian city council
with a speech that blames the deadly users and presents the CFE as indolent and unacceptable.
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Was this Google Translate? And to think I've been telling people how much it's improved lately.... |
Ha. Yeah. Whatever Facebook uses. It's some funny stuff sometimes. I wonder if the English to Spanish translation is as jacked up.
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