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mtnpop
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water problems Mulege Municipality
There may already be a thread talking about this that I did not find but here goes anyway.
CFE has been cutting the power to the SAPA pumps supplying water to Mulege Municipality which includes GN, Viscaino, San Ignacio, Santa Rosalia, and
Mulege pueblos due to non payment of electric bills.
In Mulege we are now out of fresh water supply since Thurs 3/18
Pilas are starting to dry up if you were lucky enough to have one.
Most of the folks we know pay their water bill for a year so SAPA will not get money from those folks until early 2022 it would seem. Therefore no
income for now to pay the electric bills or whoever the money is going to.
So if you are planning a trip south we might suggest you keep informed about the situation in the area you are going to spend some time in.
So far the bottled water supply is still available.
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Wow. Is there water delivery to Punta Chivato or are they dry, too? My suegro is heading down in a couple weeks.
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Chivato has their own water supply last I knew. Not part of the SAPA water system.
So if you are hooked up to their system you are probably good. If not I think the water supply trucks are still getting water from their suppliers in
the valley.
Common sense is a flower that doesn\'t grow in everyone\'s garden.....
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Never kick a cow chip on a hot day!!
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Quote: Originally posted by mtnpop  | Chivato has their own water supply last I knew. Not part of the SAPA water system.
So if you are hooked up to their system you are probably good. If not I think the water supply trucks are still getting water from their suppliers in
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Own water supply in Chivato? As far as I know thy are getting their water from the SAPA well. And I do not know any supplier "in the valley" which is
not SAPA.
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We are driving north that way next week. We’ll post anything we see.
Toilets not flushing are probably a bigger issue than drinking water right now.
Nothing quite like raw sewerage during a pandemic!
Back to the 55 gal drum and plastic jug in the Pemex Station!
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Russ
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Chivato has it own well and is run off a generator. And we pay dearly.
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Yep, Didn't want to argue but we had a property down below the community center and the water bill didn't come from SAPA. Big pilas built and supply
most or maybe all of the area now and their own well.
Also SAPA does not own all the wells in the valley, many farmers and ranchers have wells that probably sell some water to the tenders which may not
be legal but maybe.... There are vendors selling water by the truck load so not from SAPA....
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maybe time for Mulege to go solar for their pump power.....
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Thanks for the info -- didn`t know that (nobody is perfect!)
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I an not 100 % sure but have heard that the 2 Mulege pumps are considerably bigger than 30 HP Each has it's own electric meter and also have been
told they run almost 24/7 . even tho SAPA and CFE are both Gov't entities they don't seem to work together much. SAPA is probably paying a
commercial rate also.
Have been told the pumps are 440 v..
Some solar might offset the electric bill but with a considerable expense to build, also to do a solar array to hook in with CFE it is necessary to
get the permitting from CFE. in my research recently..
Cryin shame that CFE thinks that pullin the plug on SAPA is gonna take care of anything, It is the end user that is having to suffer not the water
company...
Common sense is a flower that doesn\'t grow in everyone\'s garden.....
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtnpop | I an not 100 % sure but have heard that the 2 Mulege pumps are considerably bigger than 30 HP Each has it's own electric meter and also have been
told they run almost 24/7 . even tho SAPA and CFE are both Gov't entities they don't seem to work together much. SAPA is probably paying a
commercial rate also.
Have been told the pumps are 440 v..
Some solar might offset the electric bill but with a considerable expense to build, also to do a solar array to hook in with CFE it is necessary to
get the permitting from CFE. in my research recently..
Cryin shame that CFE thinks that pullin the plug on SAPA is gonna take care of anything, It is the end user that is having to suffer not the water
company...
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If I am understanding that correctly, then the pumps in Mulege are "out of the CFE game" if Mulege-Sapa is paying the bill for that specific
pump-meter.
Just using common sense, CFE can only cut the power to a specific meter if the power bill is not paid.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtnpop | There may already be a thread talking about this that I did not find but here goes anyway.
CFE has been cutting the power to the SAPA pumps supplying water to Mulege Municipality which includes GN, Viscaino, San Ignacio, Santa Rosalia, and
Mulege pueblos due to non payment of electric bills.
In Mulege we are now out of fresh water supply since Thurs 3/18
Pilas are starting to dry up if you were lucky enough to have one.
Most of the folks we know pay their water bill for a year so SAPA will not get money from those folks until early 2022 it would seem. Therefore no
income for now to pay the electric bills or whoever the money is going to.
So if you are planning a trip south we might suggest you keep informed about the situation in the area you are going to spend some time in.
So far the bottled water supply is still available. |
My wife talked to her relatives in Mulege this morning. No water shortage at all. The cistern is full. And it really makes no sense that ALL meters
in the entire Mulege community from Guerreo Negro to South of Mulege are cut off by CFE b/c of non-payment. And even that woul make no sense. Either
SAPA is paying for all meters or none.
It is my wild guess that SAPA is not paying for every single meter separately.
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Don't know who's cistern is full, we haven't had city water for a week. Being very careful with what remains in our tinaco. Like the old drought days
in norcal, don't flush unless you mush.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 1bobo | | Don't know who's cistern is full, we haven't had city water for a week. Being very careful with what remains in our tinaco. Like the old drought days
in norcal, don't flush unless you mush. |
Yellow, let it mellow....brown, it's down!
Another emergency water stretching tip.....remove the sink trap and replace it with a five gallon bucket. Use that to flush the toilet!
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| Quote: Originally posted by 1bobo | | Don't know who's cistern is full, we haven't had city water for a week. Being very careful with what remains in our tinaco. Like the old drought days
in norcal, don't flush unless you mush. |
In general: if its yellow - let it mellow! only if its brown - flush it down.
Don`t know where you live . North-Side, maybe Loma Azul ?
Well, according to the info from this morning there are some spots in Mulege were some folks have illegal waterlines - connected to the SAPA line
between dust and dawn. Could be a reason? SAPA is now investigating on that and enforcing payments even from those. T t L !
On the South-Side water supply so far is o.k.
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not true
no water guerrero negro to south mulege all towns in between
only farmers have separate wells but could be illegal to sell that to the public
water should be on tomorrow
[Edited on 3-22-2021 by Bob and Susan]
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Interesting, around Todos Santos the Farm Ejedos supply water to many residents. So maybe it’s not illegal!
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The water is back on. Trucks have been coming out to the valley and fill up.
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | | Interesting, around Todos Santos the Farm Ejedos supply water to many residents. So maybe it’s not illegal! |
I wonder if there is a situation where selling the water pays more than using it to raise a crop?
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Thanks Russ.
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