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LancairDriver
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Traveling to Canada anytime soon?
There have been some reports of mandatory detention upon entering Canada lately. Expensive and unpleasant seem to be the common complaint. Maybe some
of the Canadian Nomads can better explain the situation.
https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-man-in-for...
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mtgoat666
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The rules...
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se...
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“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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surabi
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There have been some reports???
Canada announced the quarantine rules like a month or more ago.
All you have to do is go on to the Govt. of Canada website to inform yourself.
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LancairDriver
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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  |
There have been some reports???
Canada announced the quarantine rules like a month or more ago.
All you have to do is go on to the Govt. of Canada website to inform yourself. |
Read and try to comprehend the newspaper article.Just one case of many describing actual conditions.Good luck.
Goat posted the Canadian website data which is obvious.
[Edited on 4-1-2021 by LancairDriver]
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JZ
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They are locking them down in govt. facilities. What an awful country. Starting to understand why some are hiding in the basement there.
"If your test results come back positive, you’ll need to immediately quarantine in designated government facilities. This is not optional."
https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1376662503720112132...
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DouglasP
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
There have been some reports???
Canada announced the quarantine rules like a month or more ago.
All you have to do is go on to the Govt. of Canada website to inform yourself. |
You seem like a reasonable and pleasant person. 
I like beer, better than most people.
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mtgoat666
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Canada is smart to quarantine travelers, specially infected travelers.
USA should do the same, I see nothing wrong with locking up infected travelers for a few days, as they are a problem — if you are infected, you
should be isolated, not traveling...
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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AKgringo
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I noticed in the govt site that showing proof of vaccination doesn't change anything!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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JZ
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Canada detains its citizens in govt. designated detention centers, and meanwhile it is too inept to get the vaccine out.
Last week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised an "enormous increase" in doses coming to Canada of both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, the only
two currently authorised for use in the country.
He is under pressure from critics who say he has not delivered vaccines fast enough, and has promised that all Canadians who want a vaccine will get
one by the end of September.
'Canada's inoculation drive began 14 December, and the country has so far given just over 1.39 million doses. It currently stands at 43rd in global
rankings of doses per 100 people, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.'
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motoged
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Uhhhh.....no one is being locked up. 
Quarantined folks are designated to hotels set up for these conditions....and charged accordingly....could cost a few thousand dollars for their
inconsideration.
It certainly isn't draconian stalag measures.
Our vaccine supply was hampered by vaccine production re-alignment by manufacturers....and by some countries scooping more than their shares somehow.
Canada is a pretty good place to live....
Here's the deal:
STAY HOME and AVOID UNNECESSARY TRAVEL
Folks with reading comprehension issues may find this confusing....and folks who think their self-interested pleasure travel supercedes mandated
health measures and policies may be frustrated.
Don't believe everything you think....
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
OK, so someone flies in carrying an infection which will likely put others at risk.
What do you think should be done in this situation? 
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Tell them to go quarantine at home.
Not force them to go to a govt. designed detainment site. Where you are stripped of all your basic human rights.
Damn, if ppl can't see this is govt. overreach I just have to shake my head. They are whisking some ppl away in dark colored vans and dropping them
off at locations where all the workers are wearing hazmat suits.
Trudeau has totally botched the vaccine roll out and this is his answer? In total since December he's given out the equivalent of what the US is
doing per day.
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KasloKid
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I'll stir the pot.....
Does the quote "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" fit here?
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surabi
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Considering that Canada has an infection rate of 26,000 per million population, and the US has 94,000, seems to me that Canada's approach is a lot
more intelligent than the US. Except, of course, to Americans who consider their personal freedom to do whatever they want trumps all.
Gee, I'd have to stay in a govt. approved hotel for 14 days if I test positive, so I don't go infecting a bunch of other people? Seems rather
reasonable to me. Not fun, but life can't always be fun.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | Considering that Canada has an infection rate of 26,000 per million population, and the US has 94,000, seems to me that Canada's approach is a lot
more intelligent than the US. Except, of course, to Americans who consider their personal freedom to do whatever they want trumps all.
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Canada has the same land mass as the US and 1/10th the population. You always forget those little details.. I'm surprised you didn't bring up
Zealand again.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi | Considering that Canada has an infection rate of 26,000 per million population, and the US has 94,000, seems to me that Canada's approach is a lot
more intelligent than the US. Except, of course, to Americans who consider their personal freedom to do whatever they want trumps all.
[Edited on 4-2-2021 by surabi] |
Canada has the same land mass as the US and 1/10th the population. You always forget those little details.. I'm surprised you didn't bring up
Zealand again.
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Chiquito mcjizzy,
Irrelevant factoid. You are mistaken in thinking that most everyone in Canada lives in a cabin in the Yukon, 20 miles from their nearest neighbor.
Most of Canada lives in suburbs and urban areas with same population density as similar communities in USA.
I live on a 1 ac parcel. My neighbor lives on a 1/4 ac parcel. Our risk of infection is same, all other things being equal.
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ |
Canada has the same land mass as the US and 1/10th the population. You always forget those little details.. I'm surprised you didn't bring up
Zealand again.
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Completely irrelevant - 90% of Canada's population lives within 150 kilometers of the US border. A "little detail" you were either unaware of or
chose to ignore.
The majority of Canada's land mass is sparsely populated, but that 150 k. wide swath is not.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | [/rquote]
Completely irrelevant - 90% of Canada's population lives within 150 kilometers of the US border. A "little detail" you were either unaware of or
chose to ignore.
The majority of Canada's land mass is sparsely populated, but that 150 k. wide swath is not.
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100 miles deep times a 5K mile border. Subtract 5M ppl (10%). Don't kid yourself, it's much more spread out than the US, and it's not remotely
close.
The Los Angeles area alone is almost half the population of Canada, and they are all on top of each another over a very small area. Not to mention
Canada had a small fraction of the international traffic as the US.
Details do matter.
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JZ
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Talk about an irrelevant factoid.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi | [/rquote]
Completely irrelevant - 90% of Canada's population lives within 150 kilometers of the US border. A "little detail" you were either unaware of or
chose to ignore.
The majority of Canada's land mass is sparsely populated, but that 150 k. wide swath is not.
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100 miles deep times a 5K mile border. Subtract 5M ppl (10%). Don't kid yourself, it's much more spread out than the US, and it's not remotely
close.
The Los Angeles area alone is almost half the population of Canada, and they are all on top of each another over a very small area. Not to mention
Canada had a small fraction of the international traffic as the US.
Details do matter.
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I don't have to kid myself, nor do you. Do the math. 90% of Canada's population in 100 mile wide, 3500 mile long swatch works out to about 97 people
per square mile.
In the US it works out to about 105 people per square mile.
Not any big difference.
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JZ
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Did you miss the point where I reminded you that the greater Los Angeles area alone is almost 20M? Not to mention the extreme density of the
Northeast.
Comparing the US to sparsely populated countries is a fools errand.
If the US only had to worry about 1/10th of its population we'd have never lost a beat.
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