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David K
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Gasoline Availability March/April 2022: Post your findings
Hi Nomads,
There seems to be an issue with the many now, non-Pemex brands of gas stations, being out-of gas...?
The word is their trucks are enjoying the higher prices north of the border and not wasting time delivering to the lower priced Mexican
distributors...?
Pemex is thus getting more sales and running out before the next scheduled delivery.
I thought all the brands in Mexico still got fuel from the same depots (as they do here in the US, where you see the various brand tankers lined up at
the same gas storage depot to load up...?
Is this simply a trucker issue or does ARCO gas sold in Baja come from a U.S. filled ARCO delivery truck, etc.?
Please post where you found the gas stations closed/ out-of-fuel... like reported at Gonzaga Bay this week. The San Felipe 250 mob will really strain
San Felipe distributors!
Thanks for your feedback!
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mtgoat666
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gasoline shortages occur periodically in Baja,... that's why the advice has always been to fill up when you can!
dk, google can lead you to the news...
https://www.elimparcial.com/mexicali/mexicali/Desabasto-de-g...
https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/tijuana/Precio-de-gasoli...
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KurtG
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On my recent trip I saw no stations regardless of brand that were out of gas. I bought Pemex, BP, Arco, VP, Total, Chevron branded gas from the
border to as far south as Insurgentes. This was on Hwy's 1 & 3.
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mojo_norte
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The station in Los Barriles had one pump out of regular on Monday- today fine. Reports of San Felipe being out premium
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boe4fun
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The Pemex at the Los Pinos Ranch has diesel.
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
Soy ignorante, apático y ambivalente. No lo sé y no me importa, ni modo.
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BooJumMan
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Not sure if it is relevant but the last 4 times going through Gonzaga, gas was only available 2 times. All 4 times diesel was out. Drove to Todos
Santos both times, elsewhere was fine. Trips were in Oct 2021 and February 2022.
[Edited on 3-28-2022 by BooJumMan]
In that pre-Google Earth and social media epoch, The Code was adhered to. It was based on a simple verity: if a locale had been transformational for
you, and you had put the hard yards in to get there and to learn it, to know it, why in god�s name would you broadcast the news, thus ruining the
future experience not only for yourself, but for future adventurers?
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PaulW
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Fuel is trucked to stations in northern Baja from two places these days.
1) The fuel storage area west of Mexicali where the fuel arrives from California thru large pile lines. Sources to feed the pipe line probably come
from more places than California refineries?
2) And trucked from the fuel storage marine terminal just north of Ensenada. The fuel arrives by boat with sources from California and Texas and
probably other US places.
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Hi Nomads,
There seems to be an issue with the many now, non-Pemex brands of gas stations, being out-of gas...?
The word is their trucks are enjoying the higher prices north of the border and not wasting time delivering to the lower priced Mexican
distributors...?
Pemex is thus getting more sales and running out before the next scheduled delivery.
I thought all the brands in Mexico still got fuel from the same depots (as they do here in the US, where you see the various brand tankers lined up at
the same gas storage depot to load up...?
Is this simply a trucker issue or does ARCO gas sold in Baja come from a U.S. filled ARCO delivery truck, etc.?
Please post where you found the gas stations closed/ out-of-fuel... like reported at Gonzaga Bay this week. The San Felipe 250 mob will really strain
San Felipe distributors!
Thanks for your feedback!
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | Fuel is trucked to stations in northern Baja from two places these days.
1) The fuel storage area west of Mexicali where the fuel arrives from California thru large pile lines. Sources to feed the pipe line probably come
from more places than California refineries?
2) And trucked from the fuel storage marine terminal just north of Ensenada. The fuel arrives by boat with sources from California and Texas and
probably other US places.
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Hi Nomads,
There seems to be an issue with the many now, non-Pemex brands of gas stations, being out-of gas...?
The word is their trucks are enjoying the higher prices north of the border and not wasting time delivering to the lower priced Mexican
distributors...?
Pemex is thus getting more sales and running out before the next scheduled delivery.
I thought all the brands in Mexico still got fuel from the same depots (as they do here in the US, where you see the various brand tankers lined up at
the same gas storage depot to load up...?
Is this simply a trucker issue or does ARCO gas sold in Baja come from a U.S. filled ARCO delivery truck, etc.?
Please post where you found the gas stations closed/ out-of-fuel... like reported at Gonzaga Bay this week. The San Felipe 250 mob will really strain
San Felipe distributors!
Thanks for your feedback!
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my understanding is that baja has two products pipelines. one connects rosarito terminal to ensenada harbor, and another connects rosarito terminal
to mexicali. much of the gasoline and diesel in mexicali come from rosarito via pipeline.
unaware of any cross-border product pipelines on CA-Baja border (there are natural gas lines that cross the border)
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chippy
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Every station I´ve passed the last 2 days has had gas (all types) and diesel. TJ to Ensenada and Guadalupe Valley. Filled today in Ensenada (diesel
21.59 por litro). Heading to San Felipe thurs for the 250 will update later.
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Hi Nomads,
There seems to be an issue with the many now, non-Pemex brands of gas stations, being out-of gas...?
The word is their trucks are enjoying the higher prices north of the border and not wasting time delivering to the lower priced Mexican
distributors...? |
Great idea. Pick up a tanker full of subsidized gas, skip selling it to the local stations and sell it NOB. Or, to the cartels who do it more
discreetly.
Times are ripe for piracy and profiteering. Beware, sailor.
John
[Edited on 3-28-2022 by John Harper]
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David K
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Amigos, we are driving through San Quintin now. No problems finding gas on this side of Baja. All stations and brands open, so far! Baja Cactus
tonight, Cataviña tomorrow and on to the mission then. Will report as long as there is Internet.
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John Harper
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Right on, DK!
John
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Amigos, we are driving through San Quintin now. No problems finding gas on this side of Baja. All stations and brands open, so far! Baja Cactus
tonight, Cataviña tomorrow and on to the mission then. Will report as long as there is Internet. |
Dk,
Sometimes travel is best if you turn off your phone and ignore technology for the duration of the trip.
Please don’t ruin your trip by posting here (or anywhere) during your trip!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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PaulW
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San Felipe is overwhelmed with visitors for the race and I was told no more gas this afternoon until the tankers arrive later.
Earlier around noon the el Dorado ARCO had lines at least 25 vehicles long creating a traffic jam on the highway.
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WestyWanderer
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | San Felipe is overwhelmed with visitors for the race and I was told no more gas this afternoon until the tankers arrive later.
Earlier around noon the el Dorado ARCO had lines at least 25 vehicles long creating a traffic jam on the highway. |
That’s great news for the town revenue wise.
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | San Felipe is overwhelmed with visitors for the race and I was told no more gas this afternoon until the tankers arrive later.
Earlier around noon the el Dorado ARCO had lines at least 25 vehicles long creating a traffic jam on the highway. |
Good news for local business, let's see what the gas prices are with new deliveries. Hopefully price gouging doesn't happen and hurt the locals
themselves over the rich gringos.
John
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Amigos, we are driving through San Quintin now. No problems finding gas on this side of Baja. All stations and brands open, so far! Baja Cactus
tonight, Cataviña tomorrow and on to the mission then. Will report as long as there is Internet. |
Dk,
Sometimes travel is best if you turn off your phone and ignore technology for the duration of the trip.
Please don’t ruin your trip by posting here (or anywhere) during your trip!
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Please don't confuse actual news like my reports with the stuff you believe from CNN. Freedom is choosing to not read vs. forcing silence on those you
don't agree with. |
See, technology is bad for you, makes you write crazy, angry chit. Put it down, don’t touch it for the duration of your vacation!
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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brewer
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El Dorado ARCO was out of diesel two days ago. Very crowded.
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pacificobob
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Quote: Originally posted by David K | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Amigos, we are driving through San Quintin now. No problems finding gas on this side of Baja. All stations and brands open, so far! Baja Cactus
tonight, Cataviña tomorrow and on to the mission then. Will report as long as there is Internet. |
Dk,
Sometimes travel is best if you turn off your phone and ignore technology for the duration of the trip.
Please don’t ruin your trip by posting here (or anywhere) during your trip!
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Please don't confuse actual news like my reports with the stuff you believe from CNN. Freedom is choosing to not read vs. forcing silence on those you
don't agree with. |
Now that's a bit of a stretch.
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PaulW
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San Felipe
Premium and diesel available at El Dorado ARCO at 10AM today
Prices unchanged from last week
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