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mtgoat666
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Tijuana Pays a Price for Water Scarcity
Baja has it rough
https://voiceofsandiego.org/2022/05/24/san-diego-pays-a-lot-...
One wonders when San Diego or other areas in western usa will suffer water shortages like in Tijuana….
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Sounds like the situation in TJ is dire.
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Most all Northern Baja is water shortage for many years now . Years back I put in 4,000 gal Pozo and 1hp pump. So far I have not had to buy water
from water truck. City water could be off for a week now they have a new well. A large rancho give it to city only because has slight salt in it. So
for my cats and dogs now only bottled water. For now water comes on a hour per day. The poor do suffer as no pozo or pump. When they leave for work in
morning they have 50 gal plastic tank. They take garden hose turn on hope its full when they return. So its not just TJ
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I wonder how much water is used by Valle de Guadalupe to grow grapes. Seems like a frivilous use of precious water.
Drink beer!! Or California wine if you must.
Also, couldn't TJ just shut down the water supply that flows down to Rosarito Beach. That would help.
[Edited on 6-17-2022 by SFandH]
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That water situation has me spooked. The Colorado River,
Lake Mead, Las Vegas area reported as bleak. The Cape
region of Baja, I assume they rely on ground water, what
is it, 90 mi. from Pacific to the Cortez? Seems to be a limited
amount of underground water at the end of an 800 mi.
peninsula?
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I my area all grape ranchos that is cause of little water for city
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I hear the same from those I know in La Paz area, that the big problem is massive growth in agricultural demand. The recent increases in residential
building can't be helpful either. Looks to me like this will be the big challenge moving ahead.
Here in rainforest west coast of Canada, we are increasingly capturing excess rainwater and storing to reduce water usage, I have only 2000 liters of
storage and estimate another 98,000 liters per year goes to waste storm drainage from my roofs alone.
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That doesn't sound good.
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In the part of California where I am right now, floods, and droughts are not only common, but are pretty much an annual event.
In October of 2021, the rain gauges around the part of the county where my property is located recorded 10 to 12 inches in a 24-hour period! Then the
drought resumed until Christmas day when a near record snowstorm put down trees and powerlines all over the county. Ten days with no power at my
house!
It is kind of hard to harness that kind of precipitation.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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Here the city keeps putting in trees along the streets and highways near new developments which means water lines to water them and we're in a
drought. Not very smart and they're asking home owners to reduce their water use.
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Wouldnt it be wonderful if we learned to capture those excess events and redirect it to our declining underground storage aquifers where possible,
instead of allowing it to erode the land as it rushes back to the ocean?. Might even have a positive effect on the rising sea levels we keep
reporting. Farmers did this for millenia to enhance irrigation and water storage for both crops and animal use before the lawyers decided they were
all wrong and had to be stopped.
[Edited on 6-17-2022 by JDCanuck]
[Edited on 6-17-2022 by JDCanuck]
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Wouldnt it be wonderful if we learned to capture those excess events and redirect it to our declining underground storage aquifers where possible,
instead of allowing it to erode the land as it rushes back to the ocean?. Might even have a positive effect on the rising sea levels we keep
reporting.
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I have four ponds on my property that serve as sediment catching basins, and they slow the water down so that it can soak in and replenish some of the
ground water level.
The largest one is only about a half acre, and about 12 feet deep. None of the ponds stay full through the summer, but three of the four sustain a
fish population.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Wouldnt it be wonderful if we learned to capture those excess events and redirect it to our declining underground storage aquifers where possible,
instead of allowing it to erode the land as it rushes back to the ocean?. Might even have a positive effect on the rising sea levels we keep
reporting.
[Edited on 6-17-2022 by JDCanuck] |
I have four ponds on my property that serve as sediment catching basins, and they slow the water down so that it can soak in and replenish some of the
ground water level.
The largest one is only about a half acre, and about 12 feet deep. None of the ponds stay full through the summer, but three of the four sustain a
fish population. |
Gee AKgringo, you seem to have put some thought into this issue, just as my ancestors did. Roman society was especially determined to conquer their
water issues, building huge dams, complicated delivery aqueducts and then storing water in huge underground cisterns for both security and
convenience. Try to get a flood control/energy source dam built today and past the multitude of delays by the politicians AFTER the Engineers do the
design and consequence approvals.
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I agree with JDcanuck. The environmental quagmire defies common sense. Even for the better good.
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Wouldnt it be wonderful if we learned to capture those excess events and redirect it to our declining underground storage aquifers where possible,
instead of allowing it to erode the land as it rushes back to the ocean?. Might even have a positive effect on the rising sea levels we keep
reporting.
[Edited on 6-17-2022 by JDCanuck] |
I have four ponds on my property that serve as sediment catching basins, and they slow the water down so that it can soak in and replenish some of the
ground water level.
The largest one is only about a half acre, and about 12 feet deep. None of the ponds stay full through the summer, but three of the four sustain a
fish population. |
Gee AKgringo, you seem to have put some thought into this issue, just as my ancestors did. Roman society was especially determined to conquer their
water issues, building huge dams, complicated delivery aqueducts and then storing water in huge underground cisterns for both security and
convenience. Try to get a flood control/energy source dam built today and past the multitude of delays by the politicians AFTER the Engineers do the
design and consequence approvals. |
We don’t need dams. What we need is conservation and population control. Eliminate golf courses (it’s a stupid game anyways). Stop growing
stupid water-wasting crops like almonds in Central Valley.
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Dams were all about conserving storm rain waters and then controlling the flows for more consistent and higher agricultural production. Energy was a
byproduct that paid again for all the other benefits. There is a simple reason Norway has 99% renewable energy and British Columbia has attained over
95%. It was applying common sense to the issue.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=16891
Which group have you decided should be prevented from bearing children to control the population? Almost all of the wealthier nations are already
under stable population growth and presently rely on immigration, both legal and illegal to maintain their lifestyles.
[Edited on 6-20-2022 by JDCanuck]
[Edited on 6-20-2022 by JDCanuck]
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Dams were all about conserving storm rain waters and then controlling the flows for more consistent and higher agricultural production. Energy was a
byproduct that paid again for all the other benefits. There is a simple reason Norway has 99% renewable energy and British Columbia has attained over
95%. It was applying common sense to the issue.
Which group have you decided should be prevented from bearing children to control the population? Almost all of the wealthier nations are already
under stable population growth and presently rely on immigration, both legal and illegal to maintain their lifestyles.
[Edited on 6-20-2022 by JDCanuck] |
Dude,
Hydroelectric and dam storage is a fantasy in desert SW and baja! Why are suggesting dams and hydroelectric will make desert be like wet places like
Norway and BC?
Are you smoking crack?
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You may not be aware we are presently expanding our northern hydro dams so we can continue to meet the growing demands in the US including California
and Utah. It was a huge battle against those who felt we should just stop selling hydro power to the US instead, but the initial approval has been
upheld, despite the protests.
One more victory for common sense.
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | You may not be aware we are presently expanding our northern hydro dams so we can continue to meet the growing demands in the US including California
and Utah. It was a huge battle against those who felt we should just stop selling hydro power to the US instead, but the initial approval has been
upheld, despite the protests.
One more victory for common sense. |
How is that going to alleviate water shortage in Tijuana?
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Meanwhile valley Chico has reportedly a very large aquifer that is mostly untapped. Good for the small development for San Felipe and projects further
south. The usability depends on continued function of the wells, pilas, and pipe systems. Water continues to be mostly home delivery by truck, but
several developments and the San Felipe town have piped city water at very low cost.
The San Felipe town, the north Ejido now have piped city water like several developments, otherwise the rest are using trucked water. Cost is very
reasonable for good treated city water.
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