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mtgoat666
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A True-Crime Story That Pits Polygamists Against Drug Lords
A True-Crime Story That Pits Polygamists Against Drug Lords In her ninth book, “The Colony,” the veteran journalist Sally Denton takes
readers across the border to a Mormon sect in Mexico.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/28/books/review/the-colony-s...
Our baja connection is nomad elinvestig8r, raised by Lebaron, and mama espinoza.
Truth is stranger than fiction!
What ever happened to Elvis?
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surabi
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Those fundamentalist Mormons are disgusting. They aren't just polygamists, they marry off 16 year old girls to old men.
What's interesting is that Mormons were not originally polygamists- their founder, Joseph Smith, only added it to the religious doctrine later, when
he had the hots for some 17 year old, when he was already married. (Whereupon his wife left him).
And the only reason mainstream Mormons officially stopped the practice of polygamy in the first place is that it was a requirement in order for Utah
to acheive US statehood back in 1896.
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RFClark
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Surabi,
Care to comment on the fact that the Prophet of Islam had several wives, one of which was rather young by anyone’s standards! Young wives are not
just a Mormon thing, nor are arranged marriages!
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We had a Nomad write much about his 'escape' from such a sect and how Mama Espinoza took him in.
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Lots of religions are DESIGNED to be disgusting when viewed thru the eyes of YOUR religion.
Please pass the coin dish.
Get it yet?
Es Todo Bueno
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mtgoat666
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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=28205&pag...
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Governments and Religions have a bad habit of changing what Mother Nature has deemed totally acceptable...........
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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One thing I will give the Mormons is their commitment to community works and supporting family activities. We could use more of that from individuals
no matter what their religion is.
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I can only add this I worked for Mormons 21 years. Very nice people down to earth never a problem.
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surabi
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | Surabi,
Care to comment on the fact that the Prophet of Islam had several wives, one of which was rather young by anyone’s standards! Young wives are not
just a Mormon thing, nor are arranged marriages! |
Once again, you seem to think you need to explain the obvious to me, complete with exclamation marks.
FYI Muslims today do not consider polygamy to be acceptable, unlike fundamentalist Mormons.
There are plenty of things that used to be considered normal and acceptable which no longer are by the majority of humanity. Slavery, human sacrifice,
child labor, killing off one's siblings to gain power to the throne, women being regarded as possessions, and not having the right to vote, etc.
Arranged marriages do not necessarily fall under this category, IMO, although most of us would consider the practice to be wholly unappealing. Unless
it involves marrying off 13 year olds, if the parents truly love and care about their child's happiness, I doubt that arranged marriages result in any
more miserable situations than when people are free to choose their partner. While I don't have any statistics, the divorce rate, and the domestic
abuse rate in places where we get to choose, make it clear that we don't always choose wisely.
A friend of mine told me of a conversation she had with a woman from India who was her seatmate on a flight. Somehow they got to talking about
arranged marriages, and the Indian woman said " Yes, you fall in love and then get married, we get married and then fall in love."
I'd venture a guess that the success rate and contentedness of both types of marriages is roughly equal.
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mtgoat666
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A fair amount of Muslims are polygamous in Africa, mid-east, sw Asia.
In my travels in Sw Asia, I several times I was told that society requires man to provide for his women, so many men don’t take multiple wives, as
it get expensive to support additional wives.
I suppose if I had more money, I might consider taking on additional wives. Could be fun! 
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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bajatrailrider
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 best one yet
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How much fun?
The author of the book Goat highlights quotes, in another one of her books, that the 17 year old was the first of Smith's 48
"celestial relationships."
John M
[Edited on 6-30-2022 by John M]
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Interesting read , didn’t know about the NXIVM cult connection but I guess that shouldn’t be a surprise. Another good read is Under the Banner of
Heaven by Jon Krakauer, good background on Mormonism
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Surabi,
You need to get out more! Even the Catholic Church allows multiple wives in Africa and married clergy. Islam has multiple wives, rental wives and
really under aged wives. Also honor killings and much more GFE.
Pick on someone else! Disclaimer I’m a Presbyterian and think Mormons are a little strange!
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Growing up in Grass Valley, I knew quite a few people who were Mormons. As far as I was concerned, it was just another church, and they were good
people.
One of my Mormon high school friends was in the same draft call with me in January 1967. At the pre-induction center in Oakland, he stated that he
was a contentious objector, and could not take up arms against an enemy.
The Army said "Fine, you can be a medic!" I talked to him a few years after we got out, and he saw a lot of action in Viet Nam treating and
evacuating wounded soldiers.
He stayed in the emergency responder field when he was a civilian again and was pursuing advanced training through the GI bill.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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“The Sound of Gravel” by Ruth Wariner is a really good read that provides an in-depth personal account on this topic.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
~ I-Ching
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RFClark: Rental wives...an interesting concept closely resembling what we commonly see in practice under present laws. Is there an up front prepaid
term and then you can renew the contract if both people agree with no further demands following the contractual term? Or 6 months minimum to achieve
full marital ongoing rights similar to our system?
[Edited on 7-2-2022 by JDCanuck]
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RFClark
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The rules are more complicated or can be but basically something along those lines but favoring the man.
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Like the old saying goes which I have always found true, if it floats, flies or flocks, it's cheaper to rent.
Believing is religion - Knowing is science
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"Get off the beaten path and memories, friends and new techniques are developed"
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