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Baja Climate Change Initiatives
Opening this topic to discuss what we can do to contribute as individuals to reduce our personal contribution to global warming, especially in Baja.
A lot of people have already embraced off grid solar power as an alternative to drawing more and more power from fossil fuel sources. Also popular as
a secondary source to reduce stepping up into higher priced tiers from CFE.
Electric vehicles are almost unheard of in Baja other than the limited number of hybrids people have mentioned.
Any suggestions on what we can do to move ahead, or what is holding you back?
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A somewhat dated article on the top global solar panel suppliers with links to compare among them. One of the biggest influences on cost is the
massive tariffs recently introduced to keep foreign suppliers out of the US market, driving up the overall cost for individuals there and Baja, mainly
driven by union lobbying. Inflationary pressures have also recently caused the previous efficiency improvements and resulting manufacturing cost
declines to have less impact as prices have firmed up affecting decisions to install.
https://news.energysage.com/best-solar-panel-manufacturers-u...
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The denialists are in denial, their minds are set.
Those of us who drank the koolaid are already living piously, in harmony with nature.
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So you are saying you are not installing more solar panels or buying an EV and ceasing burning gasoline in your vehicle at 20% efficiency because of
the climate deniers?
My reasoning for not buying an EV is it keeps getting more expensive to replace my gas vehicle with an EV. Climate deniers have nothing to do with how
I direct my limited funds.
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Nobody here is denying the climate changes. It has always changed.
Nobody here is against a cleaner environment, either.
What is ludicrous is believing humans are more powerful than Nature and can change a natural event with money from taxpayers. It's like thinking you
can change the direction of a hurricane by sneezing towards it.
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Solar for home use is great. Same for camping, etc.
For on grid, nuclear is the best.
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Everyone knows you can make a hurricane change direction by using a Sharpie. The most stable genius ever born proved it a few years ago.
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | Solar for home use is great. Same for camping, etc.
For on grid, nuclear is the best.
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For those in Baja or the southern States, I have to agree that solar is by far the best way to utilize your personal savings and reduce energy use and
also carbon footprint.
Wind power is now far cheaper long term than nuclear and does not hold the equivalent long term risks which explains why investors are far more likely
to invest in offshore wind or solar than Nuclear at the utility level.
https://energyunderstood.com/wind-power-vs-nuclear-energy/
[Edited on 11-10-2022 by JDCanuck]
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | MTGoat:
Let's make it personal: Why are you not driving an EV or at least a hybrid now? On my end they have reduced incentives, taken the climate taxes to
subsidize their favourite startups in competition with existing EV producers and actually increased the costs of EV's overall. The explosive inflation
partially caused by climate taxes has driven the likelihood of me buying one out of reach
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Why? Havent bought a new vehicle since 2016. Waiting for our current vehicles to wear out. Next vehicle will be plug in hybrid.
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If it needs to be plugged in, what does the hybrid part do? Can you drive 300 miles, camp, and then drive home, without needing to plug in? That would
be the ticket, if so... and for under $60,000... a lot under, hopefully!
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | MTGoat:
Let's make it personal: Why are you not driving an EV or at least a hybrid now? On my end they have reduced incentives, taken the climate taxes to
subsidize their favourite startups in competition with existing EV producers and actually increased the costs of EV's overall. The explosive inflation
partially caused by climate taxes has driven the likelihood of me buying one out of reach
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Why? Havent bought a new vehicle since 2016. Waiting for our current vehicles to wear out. Next vehicle will be plug in hybrid.
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You have a plan...congrats. I keep saying that same thing, but the reality is it is always far more financially rewarding to invest in solar or wind
power and reduce the cost of those necessities further. In 2016, we had a choice, buy a 15000 car that gave 42mpg or buy a 38000 Hybrid that gave
53mpg. The 23000 difference paid for 1/2 a fully electric solar house.
In 2020...53000 for a Bolt, or 25000 for a 42mpg gas vehicle. 28000 difference paid for the rest of the solar.
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David: If you are looking for a truck....nothing I know of fits those specs yet. If you want a crossover vehicle there's the Niro. But the hybrids
have limited fuel savings and studies claim due to the increased weight and complexity they are not in practical use saving hardly any hydrocarbon use
over the gas only vehicles they replaced from cradle to grave.
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Dk:
Here is an article for you: “How Do Plug-In Hybrid Electric Cars Work?” https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/how-do-plug-in-hybrid-elect...
Toyota makes some nice hybrids - aren’t you a Toyota fan boy?
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So you can't tell me in your own words? I know how to find data.
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Less work to provide a link to you. Conservation of effort, it is the way to be green 
Woke!
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I'm not so sure you do. Why did you ask how plug-ins work? Trolling again? Let me give an example in my own words. I have a friend who has a plug-in
hybrid in Bonsall. He commutes to work ~ 48 miles per day. His home solar charges enough to get him to work without the ICE kicking on and the solar
panels at his work charge him enough to get home. ZERO gas! If he needs to drive farther the gas kicks in and he has a huge range, but of course you
know all about hybrid tech. It's on the internet.
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JZ: Quote: EV's are a very good idea for some scenario's. I.e. dense urban areas.
Not ready for prime time in other scenario's.
Forcing EV's down ppl's throat's is bad. End Quote
I have to agree with this at present. The closest we could come at present is some type of hybrid, maybe hydrogen fuel cell if CO2 reduction is the
primary target. Baja, with next to no rapid charge stations and the rugged construction needed will likely be one of the last areas to convert. We are
probably looking at two vehicles for our use, one solar rechargeable electric for commuting and one gas or hybrid for the foreseeable future.
I am still waiting for a reasonably priced jeep type EV with a range of 250 miles to become available. The 2023 GM Equinox EV in AWD so far is the
closest I've seen.
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Then why did you ask, when you could have researched it yourself?
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I don't think anything compares to the damage done by the Russian invasion of Ukraine, it will take years to recover from that one event and the
consequential damage done to climate change plans.
We can still do what we can as individuals, despite the various failures of global leaders. The one thing it tells us is do NOT get dependent on
unreliable partners under false promises....ever.
We supposedly had in place an agreement between Mexico, Canada and the US which was supposed to provide mutually beneficial trade agreements giving us
autonomy from our enemies' energy supply manipulation. Maybe we can learn from this once again, as we did in the 1970's and 1980's.
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John Stossel just did an interesting piece on EVs. I think EVs are very good for some applications, but not all.
[Edited on 11-12-2022 by JZ]
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“China Reduced Air Pollution in 7 Years as Much as US Did in Three Decades”
According to https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-14/china-s-c...
Perhaps China will get on board, eh? They sure have been adopting e-vehicles…
Perhaps it is more complicated issue than the right wing talking points you regurgitate, DK.
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