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verichip
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Is travel in Baja and Mexico affected by mega migration?
https://youtu.be/KyafGcZKi3g
How does this affect tourist's travel?
https://youtu.be/9dqeMUxyUY8
https://youtu.be/g-hy6uPHAtk
[Edited on 12-18-2022 by verichip]
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The only “migration” we’ve seen driving north is a constant stream of cars, campers and towed rigs headed south from Canada and the US.
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no. tourists wont see any impact.
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verichip
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What if I was to travel to Oaxaca or Chiapas? Does an extra million gypsies affect the crime rate?
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Gypsies?? Romanians are crossing the boarder? Maybe Hobos no Gypsies.
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Quote: Originally posted by surfhat  | Can we call them for what they are? Desperate refugees fleeing for their lives and their children's lives hoping for a future, any future where they
won't be subject to gangs and corrupt officials.
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Exactly. No one leaves their homeland, trudges hundreds or thousands of miles with their family, with only what they can carry on their backs, or
gets in an overcrowded boat that is likely to capsize, just because they think the US is where they can make a lot of money. But those who rail
against immigration portray immigrants as some kind of criminal element or looking for a free ride to distract from their xenophobia and lack of
compassion. And referring to people as "illegals" is disgusting and demeaning- human beings are not "illegal", only actions are illegal.
[Edited on 12-19-2022 by surabi]
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verichip
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"I don't see the connection"
The highest crime rates, the highest production of heroin, and the highest rate of outward migration are closely related.
This is a know known.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by verichip | "I don't see the connection"
The highest crime rates, the highest production of heroin, and the highest rate of outward migration are closely related.
This is a know known. |
I wasn't aware that Central America and Venezuela-- major sources of these migrants on the Mexican border-- are big heroin producers.
Are they?  |
I don't know but for a number of years AMLO has been flirting with the idea of not only allowing legal cultivation of opium poppy but also coca, the
idea is to help farmers in southern mexico compete with Asia for synthetic opioids (fentanyl) its a crazy world out there
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
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Fastest way across the border: get sentri. And don’t line up with the undocumented, they will slow down the line 
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verichip
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Even Santa Claus got stopped at the border
https://youtu.be/5bf9lUdRWFA
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Cliffy, you nailed that one.
Specifically, spend time, money, and effort in the country's of origin will help to keep the desperate refugees from becoming desperate refugees on
the road and will solve so many other problems before they become many more problems.
Thanks Cliffy. If only others could show the same level of awareness and clarity you did this fine morning.
Peace, love and fish tacos to all here on Nomad.
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The opoid invasion is responsible for most of the crime. People are running from crime in their homeland. The heroin poppy is the root of the
problem. Why are Mayan people Living in Ensenada instead of their home in Huehuetenago?
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No it isn't. Heroin and other derivatives of the opium poppy have been around and used by some for hundreds of years. If they legalized heroin
tomorrow, how many people do you think would say "Oh, goody. I've always wanted to be a heroin addict. Nodding out in a doorway in a filthy alley
looks like such a cool lifestyle".
The root of the problem is not the drugs. The root is to be found in why people become drug addicts in the first place. It isn't because drugs are
available- if that were the case, everyone would be a drug addict. The question is why so many people are so unhappy, alienated, in emotional pain
that makes them want to turn to drugs. Poverty, lack of education and lack of opportunity is what leads to crime and drug addiction, not the opium
poppy. It's just a plant.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
No it isn't. Heroin and other derivatives of the opium poppy have been around and used by some for hundreds of years. If they legalized heroin
tomorrow, how many people do you think would say "Oh, goody. I've always wanted to be a heroin addict. Nodding out in a doorway in a filthy alley
looks like such a cool lifestyle".
The root of the problem is not the drugs. The root is to be found in why people become drug addicts in the first place. It isn't because drugs are
available- if that were the case, everyone would be a drug addict. The question is why so many people are so unhappy, alienated, in emotional pain
that makes them want to turn to drugs. Poverty, lack of education and lack of opportunity is what leads to crime and drug addiction, not the opium
poppy. It's just a plant. |
Lack of family structure and mental illness.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
No it isn't. Heroin and other derivatives of the opium poppy have been around and used by some for hundreds of years. If they legalized heroin
tomorrow, how many people do you think would say "Oh, goody. I've always wanted to be a heroin addict. Nodding out in a doorway in a filthy alley
looks like such a cool lifestyle".
The root of the problem is not the drugs. The root is to be found in why people become drug addicts in the first place. It isn't because drugs are
available- if that were the case, everyone would be a drug addict. The question is why so many people are so unhappy, alienated, in emotional pain
that makes them want to turn to drugs. Poverty, lack of education and lack of opportunity is what leads to crime and drug addiction, not the opium
poppy. It's just a plant. |
Lack of family structure and mental illness.
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-----Yes, agree with much of the statements above, but there is no "lack of opportunity". There are millions of "jobs" out there going unfilled. I
and my friends and kids had about 20 different jobs in their teens and 20's before they actually found a career job that they loved and pursued to
retirement. IMO taking drugs is a choice made by individuals who fail to take responsibility for themselves.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
No it isn't. Heroin and other derivatives of the opium poppy have been around and used by some for hundreds of years. If they legalized heroin
tomorrow, how many people do you think would say "Oh, goody. I've always wanted to be a heroin addict. Nodding out in a doorway in a filthy alley
looks like such a cool lifestyle".
The root of the problem is not the drugs. The root is to be found in why people become drug addicts in the first place. It isn't because drugs are
available- if that were the case, everyone would be a drug addict. The question is why so many people are so unhappy, alienated, in emotional pain
that makes them want to turn to drugs. Poverty, lack of education and lack of opportunity is what leads to crime and drug addiction, not the opium
poppy. It's just a plant. |
Lack of family structure and mental illness.
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-----Yes, agree with much of the statements above, but there is no "lack of opportunity". There are millions of "jobs" out there going unfilled. I
and my friends and kids had about 20 different jobs in their teens and 20's before they actually found a career job that they loved and pursued to
retirement. IMO taking drugs is a choice made by individuals who fail to take responsibility for themselves.
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hard for many to get ahead, when raised in poverty and ignorance, raised by the poor and ignorant.
Can you imagine how hard life is if you are an illegal who flees dire circumstances, arrives in usa with no money and no more than the clothes on your
back, and You are accosted by ignorant Americans who hate you just because you are a refugee that needs a helping hand, and these hateful Americans
ship you by bus to the snow country and shove you off the bus in a snowstorm on a deserted street at 200 AM?
[Edited on 12-26-2022 by mtgoat666]
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"IMO taking drugs is a choice made by individuals who fail to take responsibility for themselves."
Your opinion is uninformed and ignorant. You obviously have little understanding of the issue. Most drug addicts endured sexual, physical, and
emotional abuse from an early age. This was not a "choice" and these people are severly damaged by no fault of their own. Their parents and the system
failed them and they do not have the tools or skills to be responsible for themselves or anything else.
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[Edited on 12-26-2022 by surabi]
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"Your opinions is uninformed and ignorant"
Pull your heaads out of the sand.
When a pregnant woman uses heroin her babies brain never develops properly.
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| Quote: Originally posted by verichip | "Your opinions is uninformed and ignorant"
Pull your heaads out of the sand.
When a pregnant woman uses heroin her babies brain never develops properly. |
What is your point? Do you think you are telling us something we aren't aware of? Do you think a pregnant woman wants her baby to be born addicted?
Why do you think she is using heroin? Simply because she's irresponsible?
What's your excuse for having a brain that doesn't function properly?
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As we all know, opioids were widely prescribed for 15+ years in doses that caused millions to become addicted through no fault of their own. Look at
all the homeless people around the country, especially in warmer climates. These unfortunates can't afford black market opioids so where do they
turn? Meth and heroin. Is every homeless person a drug addict? Of course not, many work full time jobs, even two, and still can't afford rent.
Immigrants? Don't even get me started. Who do you think does all the work white privileged Americans refuse to do? Has anyone noticed the labor
shortage? Immigrants aren't criminals, they are desperate human beings coming to America with hope in their hearts and the willingness to work hard.
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