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[*] posted on 7-12-2023 at 09:53 PM
45 years of military check points


Since about 1978….approximately 45 trips down and back, I have yet to experience a negative encounter at any checkpoint. Just drove down about 6/15, and headed back about 7/10. Alway travel at least to La Paz, sometimes to Cabo San Lucas. Not sure why of my great luck…after hearing plenty of negative stories…. this trip down seemed to be one of the easiest and friendliest in both directions.

And the roads! Maybe only 20% of the narrow, white
knuckle asphalt left. Plenty of WIDE roadway throughout the entire drive. Comparing the surface from 40 years ago…smooth sailing. Looks to be plenty of new roadwork in the works
Spent my time this trip in La Ventana, at the original campground, fishing/diving/Mt biking. Great time was had by all, Ron
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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 06:05 AM


Thanks for posting about your trip. I don't have near as many Baja runs under my belt, but I have been visiting off and on since 1986.

With the improvements being made on the highways, I find myself taking more of the secondary roads to get that "Baja feel".

I also have had problem free encounters at the checkpoints over the years. I travel with a large dog, which might be why I get waved through a lot of them.




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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 09:01 AM


As a group, most folks traveling baja by road, are people who are quite familiar with dogs. Most people in the world are less comfortable around than our demographic. A young dude with sporting camo and guns is very reluctant to reveal his fear of bigass dogs. Imo, it's a big asset to travel and live with them.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 09:07 AM


Ron,

You probably aren’t a Gringo with lots of Tats and an attitude either.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 09:53 AM


I have also never had a bad experience at military checkpoints, in Baja or anywhere else in Mexico. Sure, sometimes they have checked through my vehicle, but they have always been polite, just doing their job.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 10:20 AM


Been going to Baja since '73. Attitude at these road checks can take you far, well further. haha

They have their job to do which I always let them know I appreciate them keeping the roads safe, well, safer. haha

During the simpleton idiocy of Nancy's Just Say No years, there was a check point between the Cabo's that was manned by some Federales and led by one short N-zi guy who stole a pair of nice Nikon binoculars. Even going up to La Paz to report him accomplished nada. He obviously had Mexico DF connections.

My behavior was as it had always been. Respectful and grateful for the job they had to do. That one time was a one time only. Knock on wood.

For sure, I have been thoroughly searched occasionally over the last few years, but I watched them like a hawk. Never a problem since back in the 80's in Cabo.

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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 11:33 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
A young dude with sporting camo and guns is very reluctant to reveal his fear of bigass dogs


Southbound last September, my Trooper got searched at the checkpoint just south of the Mex3 and 5 junction. My dog is intimidating, 90 pounds of muscle and bone with a broad head, but she is not a guard dog.

The two soldiers that were on duty must have been "dog people" because they spent more time playing with her than searching through my stuff!





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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 01:44 PM


Like others, a life of driving the peninsula that began before the highways were all built. The military checkpoints began in the 90s, I 🤔 think?

Never an issue and always a fun experience until that one incident at San Ignacio in July 2015. No others for us after that, either. We weren't the only ones that outfit harassed, either. Oh well, takes more that that to keep us away!

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[*] posted on 7-13-2023 at 10:07 PM


Having loved there for 16 years with MANY trips up and down, we can say that we never had a bad experience. Many times I would get my amigas and head for San Ignacio for the day, three ladies in the car, never a hassle.






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[*] posted on 7-14-2023 at 06:39 AM


Speaking of Hwy 1 or 5 , how wide are those lanes. We see BIG class A diesel pushers traveling those roads and some very nice 5th wheel trailers. We’re going to tow our center console.

Can someone share the width of the lanes ?
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Quote: Originally posted by Lengua  
Speaking of Hwy 1 or 5 , how wide are those lanes. We see BIG class A diesel pushers traveling those roads and some very nice 5th wheel trailers. We’re going to tow our center console.

Can someone share the width of the lanes ?


Lanes are wide enough. The older road sections have narrower shoulders. Drive careful.




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[*] posted on 7-15-2023 at 12:08 PM


Last 44 years no problem. Just take off the aviator glasses and ball cap. Just a few very long waiting in line.



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[*] posted on 7-15-2023 at 12:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Marc  
Last 44 years no problem. Just take off the aviator glasses and ball cap. Just a few very long waiting in line.


Good point on removing the shades! I try to remember that when I am approaching a checkpoint or border crossing. Even when I was a "rescuer" on the ski patrol, removing my sunglasses improved communication and reduced stress for the patient.

If you actually do have something to hide you may want to keep them on! :cool:




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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 11:02 AM


Thanks. I concur.

Always take off your sunglasses, along with rolling down the windows without being asked before you pull up to the authorities, and not just the front windows.

Any small amount of respect shown to them can go a long way to not being hassled. Hopefully. haha
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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 11:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by surfhat  
Thanks. I concur.

Always take off your sunglasses, along with rolling down the windows without being asked before you pull up to the authorities, and not just the front windows.

Any small amount of respect shown to them can go a long way to not being hassled. Hopefully. haha


I do roll down the window so the can be nosy. I don't see a need to take off dark glasses, they are not checking identities




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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 01:19 PM


those checkpoints get really old when you have to go through em daily, fortunately they did away with the one at bl2000, you know those young soldiers, if you are a senorita you were gonna get pulled over....if you believe removing hat and sunglasses is somehow beneficial by all means do it.
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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 01:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by surfhat  
Thanks. I concur.

Always take off your sunglasses, along with rolling down the windows without being asked before you pull up to the authorities, and not just the front windows.

Any small amount of respect shown to them can go a long way to not being hassled. Hopefully. haha


I do roll down the window so they can be nosy. I don't see a need to take off dark glasses, they are not checking identities


As a long-time Field Law Enforcement Officer, I found that eyeball to eyeball always worked better than keeping your dark glasses on---- on both sides of the International Border, as a "checker" or a "checkee".

In all my travels throughout Baja since about 1955 I do not remember ever having a problem with "check points" or the guys running them, but I was always obviously close to the action and watchful of what the "checkers" were doing. That seemed to work for me, and I never knowingly had anything stolen.





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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 01:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by surfhat  
Thanks. I concur.

Always take off your sunglasses, along with rolling down the windows without being asked before you pull up to the authorities, and not just the front windows.

Any small amount of respect shown to them can go a long way to not being hassled. Hopefully. haha


I do roll down the window so they can be nosy. I don't see a need to take off dark glasses, they are not checking identities


As a long-time Field Law Enforcement Officer, I found that eyeball to eyeball always worked better than keeping your dark glasses on---- on both sides of the International Border, as a "checker" or a "checkee".

In all my travels throughout Baja since about 1955 I do not remember ever having a problem with "check points" or the guys running them, but I was always obviously close to the action and watchful of what the "checkers" were doing. That seemed to work for me, and I never knowingly had anything stolen.


Checkpoints in mexico are what they are. Checkpoints in the usa rankle my civil rights. In usa i dont open window unless asked/demanded, not good to voluntarily consent to inspection or you risk losing all rights—you give a cop an inch, they will try to take a mile!




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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 03:05 PM


Goat---------Your attitude as presented here is exactly what provokes LE personnel to be more aggressive in their pursuit of their responsibility. It's human nature in action. Good luck with that.
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[*] posted on 7-16-2023 at 03:34 PM


Speaking of checkpoints, a friend of mine mentioned that he was stopped last week at the new CBP booths southbound into Mexico at the San Ysidro crossing. The CBP inspector asked where he was going in Mexico, why he was going there, how much money he had with him, and if he was carrying any weapons. I don't know how often the booths are manned, but they really slow down southbound traffic into Mexico.





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