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pauldavidmena
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Traveling with dogs
A recent thread about restraining one's dog at checkpoints reminded me of the challenges of trying to plan a vacation to Baja from our home on Cape
Cod without having to leave our pooch behind. Today I decided to blog about it.
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That's a tough situation. It's a long drive but I know a couple East Coasters that do it. I also know folks that regularly fly from Seattle to Loreto
with a large dog.
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | | That's a tough situation. It's a long drive but I know a couple East Coasters that do it. I also know folks that regularly fly from Seattle to Loreto
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I'm not sure we could make the diagonal cross-country drive in less than a week (one way), so it might be something we can't do while my wife is still
working. On the other hand, flying seems feasible: we'd likely have to fly Alaska Airlines from Boston to Seattle, spend the night there, and then fly
from Seattle to Loreto or Cabo the next day.
Our dog weighs 42 pounds - way too big to put in a carrier in front of us, but not huge. She loves car rides, but we have no idea how she would do on
a plane, but that's what gabapentin is for.
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I had a wonderful dog that was almost seven years old the first time I needed to put her in a kennel for a trip from AK to CA. She did not do well,
even with a tranquilizer, and repeated trips were not too much better.
To avoid that problem with the girl I have now, from day one of her living with me I used an airline kennel as her bed in my home. The very first
time I flew with her she had a familiar "safe spot" for the trip and flying has not been a problem with her.
I understand that dogs have personalities as diverse as humans, and it may not work for you, but it is worth a try!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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Get your dog certified as therapy dog and it can fly in cabin at your feet.
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Wrong. And please don't encourage this.
Airlines have cracked down on what dog owners claim is an "emotional support' animal, which 90% of them are not- people just want to bring Fluffy with
them everywhere.
Only actual service dogs, those who provide actual tasks for their handlers, like seeing eye dogs, are allowed in the passenger area.
And there is no "certification" for either emotional support or service animals. Those who want to take "emotional support" aka pets, with them often
buy "certificates" online, which require nothing but payment. They are totally bogus.
These folks do a huge disservice and show disrespect to the handicapped who actually need service dogs, which are highly trained to perform specific
tasks, and help the handler to navigate daily life.
Real service dogs are pretty much always with their handler, do not have "accidents" indoors, do not cause any damages to property, chew things up or
scratch doors, are instantly obedient to the commands they have been taught, don't ever bark uncontrollably, etc.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
Wrong. And please don't encourage this.
Airlines have cracked down on what dog owners claim is an "emotional support' animal, which 90% of them are not- people just want to bring Fluffy with
them everywhere.
Only actual service dogs, those who provide actual tasks for their handlers, like seeing eye dogs, are allowed in the passenger area.
And there is no "certification" for either emotional support or service animals. Those who want to take "emotional support" aka pets, with them often
buy "certificates" online, which require nothing but payment. They are totally bogus.
These folks do a huge disservice and show disrespect to the handicapped who actually need service dogs, which are highly trained to perform specific
tasks, and help the handler to navigate daily life.
Real service dogs are pretty much always with their handler, do not have "accidents" indoors, do not cause any damages to property, chew things up or
scratch doors, are instantly obedient to the commands they have been taught, don't ever bark uncontrollably, etc.
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I would prefer my pet be in the cabin rather than in cargo where airlines lose or injure pets. A clean, well behaved pet in the cabin is ok. Why not
have pets in cabin? I see no reason to not have pets in cabin.
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On a flight not too long ago, there was a DEA agent and his dog onboard. They weren't checking anything, they were passengers. The dog had his own
seat.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
I would prefer my pet be in the cabin rather than in cargo where airlines lose or injure pets. A clean, well behaved pet in the cabin is ok. Why not
have pets in cabin? I see no reason to not have pets in cabin. |
Of course, every pet owner would "prefer" to have their pet in the cabin with them. Many people have a sense of entitlement.
How do you propose the airlines would know if the animal was "clean and well-behaved"? (Every dog owner claims their dog is well-behaved, even when it
definitely isn't)
You see no reason not to have pets in the cabin? Are you unaware that some people have severe allergies to dogs or cats? That some people are afraid
of them?
I've had dogs all my life and would never impose them on other people. If a dog is tramatized by being transported in a kennel, dog owners should
drive or find a pet sitter or pay to board their pet.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
I would prefer my pet be in the cabin rather than in cargo where airlines lose or injure pets. A clean, well behaved pet in the cabin is ok. Why not
have pets in cabin? I see no reason to not have pets in cabin. |
Of course, every pet owner would "prefer" to have their pet in the cabin with them. Many people have a sense of entitlement.
How do you propose the airlines would know if the animal was "clean and well-behaved"? (Every dog owner claims their dog is well-behaved, even when it
definitely isn't)
You see no reason not to have pets in the cabin? Are you unaware that some people have severe allergies to dogs or cats? That some people are afraid
of them?
I've had dogs all my life and would never impose them on other people. If a dog is tramatized by being transported in a kennel, dog owners should
drive or find a pet sitter or pay to board their pet.
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Wow, you hate men, and now we learn you hate dogs?? 
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pauldavidmena
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Our dog is a "Red Heeler," a.k.a. Australian Cattle Dog, a.k.a. velociraptor. She is smart, but also full of energy and highly reactive. As much as
we'd rather have her near us (and vice versa) the other passengers might not share our view.
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You think we need to see the same photos of your dog multiple times?
And how do you translate "I've had dogs all my life" to "you hate dogs"? What's wrong with you?
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | How do you propose the airlines would know if the animal was "clean and well-behaved"? (Every dog owner claims their dog is well-behaved, even when it
definitely isn't) |
Well, we don’t even know if the the human customers are clean and well-behaved. I have shared a plane cabin with many a human that behaves worse
and smells worse than my poorly-trained mutts.
I think if the customer demand for pet travel is there, and it appears to be so, then the airlines can find a way to accommodate pets in cabin.
History has shown that pets in cargo are often injured, lost, killed, traumatized…
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| Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena |
Our dog is a "Red Heeler," a.k.a. Australian Cattle Dog, a.k.a. velociraptor. She is smart, but also full of energy and highly reactive. As much as
we'd rather have her near us (and vice versa) the other passengers might not share our view. |
Get a roomy row (splurge for 1st class or extended leg room), just you and your dog, no need to share immediate row space with strangers.
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Being in a different row isn't going to make things okay for people with severe pet allergies. Why are you advocating for dog owners to be
disrespectful and only care about themselves?
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Being in a different row isn't going to make things okay for people with severe pet allergies. Why are you advocating for dog owners to be
disrespectful and only care about themselves? |
Why are you suggesting that planes cant accommodate all? Allergic people can be seated some distance away, take an antihistamine, and bob’s your
uncle!
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put em in baggage with the angry drunks and let em bark at each other.
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
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pauldavidmena
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I like the idea of putting Poppy in first class with the angry drunks!
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I would be honored to share a row of seats with you and Poppy if I was on your flight. My dog is too large and prone to excitabilty to even think
about about buying her a seat.
About five years ago, my neighbor adopted a pup and for lack a good name she just started calling it Puppy until she could think of something. I
suggested calling her Poppy instead, but it never caught on.
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