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[*] posted on 8-3-2023 at 11:28 AM
Mulege high tides


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[*] posted on 8-3-2023 at 12:02 PM


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[*] posted on 8-3-2023 at 01:12 PM


That's the north end of the beach. The restaurant is to the left. I wonder if it flooded too. I bet the road into El Coyote was underwater.

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[*] posted on 8-3-2023 at 02:30 PM


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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 07:14 AM


The Gonzaga Lovers Facebook group has photos at Alfonsina's showing the extreme high tide covering the runway and at the edge of homes. This extra-high tide is not a new phenomenon. I saw it on my first August trip south of San Felipe in 1974.



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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 07:43 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The Gonzaga Lovers Facebook group has photos at Alfonsina's showing the extreme high tide covering the runway and at the edge of homes. This extra-high tide is not a new phenomenon. I saw it on my first August trip south of San Felipe in 1974.


Dk: you are right that high tides have been occurring for quite a while, we even had tides occurring before 1974 (some say since the dawn of time). But the high tides have gotten higher. World wide, sea level has risen over 6.5 inches in past 70 years, and over over 3 inches in just the past 20 years.
Many spots in baja report higher high tides in recent years, particularly the low relief areas along lagoons (e.g. SI and GN).
Saw pics that this week the high tide flooded the malecon in La Paz…

Did you arrange to get pics of your palm tree at high tide?

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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 08:43 AM


Silly goat, I said "extra-high tide" and "extreme high tide" not the daily, normal high tide.

In 1974, when I was 16, two friends and I camped at Nuevo Mazatlan. The high tide came up and over the top of the beach berm and flowed onto the camping area and up along the trees.

It does this at least one or two times a year and has for ages. It was no higher this week than other times the moon in new or full with maximum pull of gravity. In just hours, the tide is then the lowest for the year.

Why no alarm at how low the sea is, which is for the same duration as when it is the highest?

Here is the August 1974 photo looking west from the normally high dry sand back towards the Nuevo Mazatlan campground trees. My two friends wading through the water.





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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 08:50 AM


We just had a super moon a couple of days ago. It causes a "super tide" or King Tide. The moon is closer to the earth resulting in a larger gravitational pull on our oceans = larger tide.
In the simplest terms, the moon's gravitational pull creates a bulge in the ocean water that is closest to it. There's a similar bulge on the opposite side of the planet due to inertia of the water.
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[*] posted on 8-4-2023 at 10:08 AM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  
...research from my erstwhile employer.

"Erstwhile"?

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[*] posted on 8-8-2023 at 10:50 AM


The road out to Coyote on Sunday.





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[*] posted on 8-8-2023 at 11:12 AM


That was Highway One before 1970! Just as deep then and before when my folks drove there in 1966.

Here that spot is in 2007, after the tide has gone down (note the wet sand):





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[*] posted on 8-8-2023 at 06:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


World wide, sea level has risen over 6.5 inches in past 70 years, and over over 3 inches in just the past 20 years.

[Edited on 8-4-2023 by mtgoat666]


Please cite where you have gotten your data for your (mis)information......this should be fun.




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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 06:14 AM
Mulege High Tides


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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 08:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


World wide, sea level has risen over 6.5 inches in past 70 years, and over over 3 inches in just the past 20 years.

[Edited on 8-4-2023 by mtgoat666]


Please cite where you have gotten your data for your (mis)information......this should be fun.


So many articles have been written on sea level change. I won’t share a citation. It think this is a good opportunity for you to learn how to Google up some info on the web, and learn how to discern reliable information from unreliable information and partisan lies. Good luck! Hope you learn something!




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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 08:30 AM


Here is an article from WHOI's own "Oceanus" magazine with the provocative title "Is sea-level rise exaggerated?"



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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 12:07 PM
In the 1960s, same location as newer photos above




Mike McMahan's La Burrita 4x4 camper nearing El Coyote on the original Mexico Highway #1. Excuse the watermark.

EDIT: replaced the watermarked image from Photobucket with this new scan.

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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 12:40 PM


That is a cool picture David.
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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 12:41 PM


That road suffers from erosion almost every year. It is constantly rebuilt so people can drive to the south part of the beach. If it wasn't rebuilt almost yearly, it would be long gone.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2023 at 04:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
That is a cool picture David.


The last one? From Mike McMahan's books... let me do a new scan... page 97 of 'There it is: Baja!' (1973)



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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
That road suffers from erosion almost every year. It is constantly rebuilt so people can drive to the south part of the beach. If it wasn't rebuilt almost yearly, it would be long gone.


It appears to be on a bedrock ledge. Sure, after 70 years even bedrock gets worn down a little!




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