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[*] posted on 11-20-2023 at 07:02 PM


parallel I run Google Earth and a separate set of INEGI topos on my laptop
mainly for the larger display
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[*] posted on 11-20-2023 at 07:52 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by chippy  

When using gaia do you use the inegi maps only or a combo?
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I only use only the INEGI maps
they have the best detail of all maps on the market



Does gaia use mapbox sat photos?

Does gaia allow you to interface with openstreetmap to save/share road/sites?




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[*] posted on 11-20-2023 at 08:10 PM


could not find those features
but GaiaGPS is so loaded now that it is hard to find what's in it.




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[*] posted on 11-21-2023 at 09:58 AM


The Avenza App has the advantage of 'following you' as you travel in Baja, without any need for cell service. The zoom level also has an advantage over the Benchmark book as it is lit and gives you a close look without needing a magnifying glass or reading glasses.

The detail or map scale is not as good as Inegi Topos, true. It sure will show you if you are on the right road or which fork to take.

I wish I had it in 2017, traveling south from Mission San Luis Gonzaga! While I did get to the La Pasión/ Dolores-2 mission that day, I didn't use the road I had intended to. I followed the most worn or recent tracks, which is usually a good choice. Perhaps the road I took was better than the maybe shorter route across the big arroyo of La Pasión (San Pedro on this map)?

I took the left fork at El Caporal, and the next fork after, rather than the right... and on this AAA map, showing my driving the two days before arriving at your home, I drew in the the road that made that big northward loop. Arroyos point to the mission sites.



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[*] posted on 11-21-2023 at 10:30 AM


To me, offline satellite maps are a game changer for real exploration. Topo maps or the Avenza app are fine when you are just trying to get to towns or fairly known areas. However, there is significant value in satellite maps when going to more remote areas.

I've used GaiaGPS successfully in the past, but downloading offline maps has always been painfully slow. Like leave your phone on all night, on wifi, charging, just to download a few sections of satellite maps. Then recently the app completely stopped downloading offline maps. I've deleted and reinstalled, nothing works. I messaged tech support, but I don't think the app is really supported anymore.

This last trip I switched to OnX Offroad. There are significantly less map options, but all I need is satellite. Downloads are super fast, and easy. Apple CarPlay support is good. I'm a big fan.
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[*] posted on 11-21-2023 at 10:58 AM


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I wish I had it in 2017, traveling south from Mission San Luis Gonzaga! While I did get to the La Pasión/ Dolores-2 mission that day, I didn't use the road I had intended to. I followed the most worn or recent tracks, which is usually a good choice. Perhaps the road I took was better than the maybe shorter route across the big arroyo of La Pasión (San Pedro on this map)?

I took the left fork at El Caporal, and the next fork after, rather than the right... and on this AAA map, showing my driving the two days before arriving at your home, I drew in the the road that made that big northward loop. Arroyos point to the mission sites.



The road at Rancho El Caporal is a good choice!
It has a much better Baja feel than the new wide government roads.

The "danger" of these new wide dirt highways the government built is that the locals no longer use the extensive historic road network.
By not using them any longer they fall into disrepair and become impassable.
We are losing access to the old Baja.
We are losing access to meeting the wonderful local people as the new roads are all designed to bypass the Ranchos.

That also creates a problem for the very detailed INEGI topos.
Many of the roads shown are impassable by now.

That also means that all map sources fall short of helping you to explore Baja.
I constantly run into dead ends. Thats is in addition to the Rancho created road blocks (the locals are no longer happy to see visitors).

Bottom line - you'll have to improvise and you may not get to where you wanted to go.




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[*] posted on 11-21-2023 at 02:34 PM


Excellent advice, Harald!:light:



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[*] posted on 11-27-2023 at 08:41 PM


update to Los Narajos road

a friend just came back from driving it
he descrided it as hard core off road
kinda manageable east to west
impossible west to east




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[*] posted on 11-28-2023 at 04:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by chippy  

When using gaia do you use the inegi maps only or a combo?
Thanks for any reply.


I only use only the INEGI maps
they have the best detail of all maps on the market



Does gaia use mapbox sat photos?

Does gaia allow you to interface with openstreetmap to save/share road/sites?



Gaia uses Mapbox and Openstreet Map for sat with labels. It's a premium subscription along with the Mexican Topo layer. You can export any of your saved data and also do a public share like this one from today - https://www.gaiagps.com/public/Pgpd6wNcBLFh9rRaGdAXVmst/?lay...




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[*] posted on 11-28-2023 at 05:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
update to Los Narajos road

a friend just came back from driving it
he descrided it as hard core off road
kinda manageable east to west
impossible west to east


Thanks for the update Harald! Did your friend actually drive the length of the road from the east, or turn around at the impossible area on the west slope?




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[*] posted on 11-28-2023 at 07:57 PM


my friend drove from east to west
it was "hairy" in a couple of spots he said
coming from him means it was dangerous




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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 04:06 PM


Ok, same topic, different question. We are in the process of starting to download several of these apps. So far, Gaia, and google earth offline. Will move on to Avenza next. Took a drive to experiment and start learning the functioning.
It appears that Gaia will not function on an iPad that does not have built in gps. Will this be the case with Avenza as well ? We have an iPhone with the gps ap, but we’re hoping to use our iPad for the larger map capability.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 04:30 PM


Yes, your device must have an internal GPS
Get an Ipad with GPS or get a GPS dongle for your old Ipad.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 04:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Yes, your device must have an internal GPS
Get an Ipad with GPS or get a GPS dongle for your old Ipad.


I have a Garmin GPS unit. Would it be possible to plug it into a tablet with the same USB cord that iI use to plug it into my laptop and use the apps?

What is a "dongle"?




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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 05:16 PM
I never heard of a Dongle before......


But I just went down a Search Engine rabbit hole looking for one! I will have to go back and compare the offerings and conflicting reports. There sure is a wide price range for the devices, and I found that there may be a way to use my Android phone to provide GPS to a Chromebook I was thinking of using.

Even though I specifically searched for Chromebook devices, some of the ones that are presenting themselves clearly state they are for windows applications.

Getting a brief glimpse of what's out there tells mee that trying to use my Garmin would probably be a wasted effort.

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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 05:16 PM


So the dongle runs in the $90’s ?
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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 05:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by volcano3  
So the dongle runs in the $90’s ?


Some are under $20, and one device was pushing $300, but I have really not even scratched the surface of capabilities or limitations.




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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 05:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Yes, your device must have an internal GPS
Get an Ipad with GPS or get a GPS dongle for your old Ipad.


I have a Garmin GPS unit. Would it be possible to plug it into a tablet with the same USB cord that iI use to plug it into my laptop and use the apps?

What is a "dongle"?


A gps receiver is what you need.

Dongle is slang for a device that attaches to computer, could apply to gps receiver or a multitude of other types of devices





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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 05:49 PM


I use a garmin GPS bluetooth antenna linked to my iPad. Use Gaia currently and have used Avenza in the past. The antenna works quite well and can be placed conveniently most anywhere in the vehicle.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2023 at 06:03 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


A gps receiver is what you need.

Dongle is slang for a device that attaches to computer, could apply to gps receiver or a multitude of other types of devices




Thanks for the clarification! My tech knowledge is at the low end of the spectrum, but I learned a bit today!

For what it is worth, I didn't search for "Dongle", but entered "GPS for Chromebook".




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