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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 07:16 PM


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Ferna...You make it sound so simple.

Dennis, it is very simple if you know the right people. ;D




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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 07:27 PM


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I know that there are elements of the Mexican Goverment that are very intersted and concerned about tourism and tourist dollars.

Oh yeah, Rick, that's real uplifting. After seeing , time and time again, how the Mexican government bristles when they hear of a migrant chaffing from the cheap toilet paper in Los Angeles, it assaults my sense of balance to hear that their concern about us is our money. I guess that's what we are to Mexico.....money.
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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 07:29 PM


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I would like someone to post the email addresses of those people so I can email my concerns to them


Iflyfish

You can start here with the Governor of Baja California: José Guadalupe Osuna Millán, Gobernador de Baja California

Send your e-mail to: postmaster@baja.gob.mx

Use your home e-mail not yahoo, etc.




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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 07:33 PM


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Use your home e-mail not yahoo, etc.


HUH?
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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 07:41 PM


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Use your home e-mail not yahoo, etc.


HUH?


I hope everyone has an e-mail address from their Internet Service Provider (ISP). I think using ones ISP home e-mail address gives the e-mails more credibility. It’s just a thought.




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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 09:39 PM


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. I think using ones ISP home e-mail address gives the e-mails more credibility. It’s just a thought.

How true. :yes:




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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 09:53 PM


Baja Secretary of Tourism turismo@gbcs.gob.mx

COORDINACION ESTATAL DE TURISMO
State Director of Tourism

LIC. ALBERTO TREVINO ANGULO
Coordinador Estatal

Domicilio: Carr. Al Norte Km. 8.5, Edificio FIDEPAZ,
Fracc. FIDEPAZ, La Paz, B. C. S., C. P. 23000
Telefono: 01 (612) 124 0103
01 (612) 124 0199
01 (612) 124 0100
Fax: 01 (612) 124 0722
Email: turismo@gbcs.gob.mx




Federal Secretary of Tourism relizondo@sectur.gob.mx
Secretary of Tourism – federal

RODOLFO ELIZONDO TORRES
Secretario de Turismo

Domicilio: Presidente Mazarik No. 172, Piso 8
Col. Chapultepec Morales, Mexico, D. F., C. P. 11587
Telefono: 01 (55) 3002 6300 ext. 2660 y 2661
Fax: 01 (55) 1036 0789
Email: relizondo@sectur.gob.mx

NOTA: En BCS no hay delegacion de la Secretaria de Turismo

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[*] posted on 11-24-2007 at 11:06 PM


GNUKID....

Thank you for the address for Baja Sur.

And thank you for your input on this board.




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[*] posted on 11-25-2007 at 06:50 AM


Thank you.

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[*] posted on 11-25-2007 at 06:57 AM


Thank you gnukid. I am sending my e-mails right now.

Everybody let's get on board and send our e-mails to these people and maybe something can be done. Let's at least try.




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[*] posted on 11-25-2007 at 07:58 AM


Ok two e-mails away.

Estimado Señor Lic. Alberto Treviño Angulo, Director Estatal de Turismo de Baja California

Saludos de Lake Elsinore California,

Ya escribí al Honorable Gobernador José Guadalupe Osuna Millán Gobernador de Baja California y al estimado Rodolfo Elizondo Torres, Secretario Federal de Turismo de México tambien pidiendo ayuda con el siguiente problema.

Estoy preocupado por el bienestar de mi familia cuando voy de vacaciones a Baja California. Cuando uno abre los periódicos se lea que hay otro desastre en el camino con turistas extranjeros que están robados y secuestrados o peor.

Por favor haga algo para la seguridad en los caminos de cuota de Tijuana a Ensenada y los demás caminos que usan los extranjeros turísticos para ingresar al interior de Baja California para capturar a los criminales que son o quien pasan como que son la policía y quien roba y secuestra o peor a extranjeros turísticos.

Tambien ayúdanos con la policía en general para que ellos pongan más atención y se mejoran con su propio conducto cuando hacen contacto con extranjeros turísticos en Baja California norte y sur y México en general quienes nomás están visitando y portándose bien y quien tiene nomás cariño y amor para la gente de México.

Escribo porque el país de México es una maravilla y con los delitos de criminales y el conducto de ciertas policías destruya el país y el apoyo personal y financiad que traen los extranjeros turísticos.

Perdóname, soy Gringo y mi Español que no es tan bueno. Ojala entiendes mi mensaje de auxilio.

Gracias por su tiempo,

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[*] posted on 11-26-2007 at 11:14 AM


"You're suggesting that we send them a form letter. Who reads form letters especially when they contain complaints"
It matters. They count. One by one. Do you think DOING NOTHING is better? Another Baja crime story on the front page on the SD UT; letters; awareness; ACTION. Yes - write the letters. Send the emails. JUST DO IT. What do you have to lose by doing nothing? What do you have to lose by doing something?
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[*] posted on 11-26-2007 at 12:24 PM


You can write a personal letter in english and send it by us mail to address noted easily, in fact it arrives by mail in a few days here. You may write it a personal manner to the secretary directly, draw on the letter, whatever you want. You might even say something like merry christmas from baja nomads.

Keep the addresses in your wallet and when you have a problem and are the victim of a crime, call the office immediately and say remember me, I wrote you some time ago now I really need you to act.

The personal touch will get attention.

Much like the US, the letters in any format will provide the opportunity for the Secretary to use them to increase his budget, apply for funds, etc... and possibly use the funds to address the issues or maybe not. Things take time in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2007 at 12:35 PM


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I am dispatching a group of do-gooders to meet with Mr Bill personally


Might I suggest some names?

I'd also recommend travel insurance. :rolleyes:


And kevlar vests for the observers. None needed for the suggested names I assume, Dave? :lol:




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[*] posted on 11-26-2007 at 01:16 PM


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You can write a personal letter in english and send it by us mail to address noted easily, in fact it arrives by mail in a few days here.

I don't know where "here" is but, it takes two weeks for the phone bill to go from Tijuana to Punta Banda, 100 miles. The post marks are dated.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2007 at 01:24 PM


Oh sorry I meant when someone sends me a letter from the US it arrives at my home in La Paz very quickly. The office/home for the secretary's will receive the mail quickly from US postal addresses.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2007 at 11:00 PM


Well gnukid I went and wrote to the President of Mexico on his website tonight. The following is what I got back. It is for Mexican Citizens to write to him to petition for things so I hope he won't hold it against me that I am sending the message here.

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Número de Registro: 2672.

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¡Gracias por escribir a la Oficina del Presidente Calderón!

Su correo ha sido recibido exitosamente.

Se ha iniciado el trámite sobre su petición. Le recordamos que nuestro punto de partida es el reconocimiento de la veracidad en la información que nos ha proporcionado. Si para la adecuada atención de su asunto se requieren datos adicionales, servidores públicos pertenecientes a la Oficina del Presidente se pondrán en contacto directo con usted. En todo momento, harán referencia a su Número de Registro.

Posteriormente, una vez que sea validada su petición, se le asignará en su caso un folio, con el que Usted podrá dar cabal seguimiento a su petición.

La Red Federal de Servicio a la Ciudadanía es la instancia que desde la Oficina de la Presidencia de la República tiene la responsabilidad de apoyar las peticiones y asuntos que los ciudadanos dirigen al Presidente Felipe Calderón. Así, de manera periódica la Red Federal de Servicio a la Ciudadanía presenta un informe de los asuntos que la ciudadanía plantea a su Oficina.

En caso de que requiera detalles sobre los avances de su petición, ponemos a su disposición los siguientes teléfonos:

Lada sin costo: 01 800 22 19 567
Del área metropolitana de la Cd. De México: 55 22 76 00.

En referencia a sus datos personales éstos serán utilizados únicamente con el objeto de atender su solicitud, y serán protegidos de acuerdo a la Ley Federal de Transparencia y Acceso a la Información Pública Gubernamental y los Lineamientos de Protección de Datos Personales emitidos por el IFAI.


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Honorable Presidente Felipe Calderón Presidente de la Republica De México Perdóname, soy Norte Americano y mi español no es muy bueno. Ojala que entiendes mi mensaje de auxilio.

Mi nombre es David ******* y te mando saludos de mi casa en Lake Elsinore California. Ya escribí por correo electrónico al Honorable Gobernador José Guadalupe Osuna Millán Gobernador de Baja California; al Señor Rodolfo Elizondo Torres, Secretario Federal de Turismo de México; y al Señor Lic. Alberto Treviño Angulo, Director Estatal de Turismo de Baja California sobre el siguiente problema.

Estoy preocupado por el bienestar de mi familia cuando voy de visita a Baja California México. Cuando uno abre los periódicos se lea que hay otro desastre en el camino, en las ciudades y las playas de Baja California México con visitantes extranjeros que están robados, secuestrados o peor asesinados.

Por favor haga algo para la seguridad en los caminos de cuota de Tijuana a Ensenada y los demás caminos que usan los visitantes extranjeros para ingresar al interior de Baja California y los caminos de México en General. Trata de capturar a los criminales que son o quien pasa como que son, la policía quien roba, secuestra y matan a los visitantes.

Tambien ayuda con la policía en general para que ellos se mejoren su propio conducto profesional cuando hacen contacto con visitantes en Baja California y México en general. La mayoría de visitantes extranjeros nomás están visitando y portándose bien. Ellos vienen a México porque tienen cariño y amor para la gente Mexicana y tambien porque México es un país maravilloso. Si los criminales y ciertas policías malos siguen con delitos contra los visitantes extranjeros eso va a destruir el bienestar de México. Eso es lo que yo pienso.

Señor Presidente, te urjo que usted mismo se involucra en esta obra bueno para limpiar el país de los malos y ponerlos adonde se merecen de estar. Yo se que usted tiene muchos responsabilidades como Presidente de La Republica Mexicana pero por favor ponga atención en la problema de la seguridad de los visitantes a México tambien.

Señor Presidente, muchas gracias por su tiempo. Atentamente, David W. *******, Sr.



El derecho de petición es una garantía individual que se encuentra definida en el art. 8° de la Constitución de nuestro país, debe ser respetada por los servidores públicos, siempre y cuando se formule por escrito, de manera pacífica y respetuosa. Sobre toda petición debe recaer una respuesta de la autoridad. Este derecho es un instrumento fundamental para vincular a la ciudadanía con bienes y servicios públicos.

Todas las comunicaciones que se deriven de este mecanismo electrónico se encuentran enmarcadas en el ejercicio del derecho de petición y permiten una mejor y más rápida atención de los planteamientos hechos por la sociedad.




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