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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 04:35 AM


ask the native indians what the problem/solution might be?



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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 05:05 AM


I was never a part of Baja California's problems. Ok, well... ahem... I am only a problem when I am driving to El Rosario. I do tend to go faster that the KPH sign says. Other than that I am no problem. And, I have not yet helped the poor corrupt policeman with a mordida. I don't think I will either.



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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 09:27 AM


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No. Am I part of the problem? Yes. My name is George and I a Bajajolic! :lol:

There I passed the first step. Where do I go to get support for the other 11? :lol:


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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 09:38 AM


Whatever problems may have existed before my migration here...still exist. But I hope to have added a little ray of sunshine to this part of the world with the birth of Sirenita. She goes forth with the knowledge of 2 cultures in hopes of helping her people and country progress (she chose to stay in mexico to go to university and sincerely wants to contribute what she can here)

through our intercultural journey together, we have tried to promote understanding and acceptance between the cultures in a positive way...teaching others to listen, learn and keep an open mind with the hopes of all getting along.

We have seen the positive interactions in our village that recent foreigners have initiated. Our mexican family & amigos have been enriched by "foreign influence", more so in their outlook on life than monetary...they have tried new things, observed new ways to do things, entertained new ideas, opened their minds, learned about other cultures...etc.etc. the list of benefits of cultural blending is long here...both cultures have so much to offer each other. No, I havent solved anything....but hope to have brought smiles to alot of faces.




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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 10:15 AM


Shari

Thank you for the upbeat and enlightening post.




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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 11:54 AM


Shari, a simple thank you.
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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 01:29 PM


Having spent considerable time working and living on different parts of this planet over the last three decades including many years here in Baja I wanted to post right off in this thread. I was actually in the middle of my post when I decided to just let it run its course a bit and see where it would go first.

After a couple of days it looks like it went right about where I expected it would.

Each one of us makes a conscious decision as to whether we live to just take from this world or give back something as well. Perspective plays a huge role in what that really means and whether what we "give back" is what is truly needed IMHO. I believe that what many think they are "giving" is only motivated and directed back to their own personal wants and selfish outlook on life. Living abroad for so many years has definitely changed my own perspective and point of view in that regard...

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[*] posted on 4-21-2009 at 01:55 PM


Just take it a few months at a time, rent a place, not a gated community. :yes: Get to know your neighbors. I miss my Mulege amigos.
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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 03:33 PM


posted by Gnukid on the "Villages of Loreto Bay" thread:

"I often try to learn from Mexicans who are succeeding and learn how they live conservatively, how they make use of the resources they have and use the plants that exist for food and homeopathic care. thankfully I have had the chance this year to see, visit and live on many remote ranchitos and see how people build their own huertas and live very very well self-sustained."


I think Gnukid is on to something here. Had those early sport fisherman not flown in with their money, gifts, and worldly ways, the small, select group who lived here in relative isolation back then may still be living a simple and pure life. Some would have died young, some would have lived a very long time, they would have had enough to eat, and they wouldn't have hungered for things they wouldn't have seen. They would still have had problems, but problems very different than the ones they face now. But people flow on this earth like water, and like water, you can't stop them. So here we are, part of the problem, and hopefully a part of the solution too, depending on what we choose to do here.

[Edited on 4-22-2009 by Paula]

Edits: I didn't think I was being sufficiently verbose, so I added a few extra words:biggrin:

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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 04:58 PM


i was greeted by this burro and some of his pals when driving the road into bahia de los angeles once,i have never been greeted by such a pleasant burro when entering any destination here in the USA...

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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 05:48 PM


Quote:
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...Had those early sport fisherman not flown in with their money, gifts, and worldly ways, the small, select group who lived here in relative isolation back then may still be living a simple and pure life....


[Edited on 4-22-2009 by Paula]


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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 06:17 PM


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Had those early sport fisherman not flown in with their money, gifts, and worldly ways.. Some would have died young, So here we are, part of the problem


We sure as hell were, Paula!

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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 06:25 PM


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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 07:19 PM


Quote:
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Quote:
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Had those early sport fisherman not flown in with their money, gifts, and worldly ways.. Some would have died young, So here we are, part of the problem


We sure as hell were, Paula!

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[*] posted on 4-22-2009 at 07:33 PM


OMG...THAT is an amazing photo...love to hear THAT story...do tell...what happened to the plane guy? think it's photoshopped??....eternally sorry for the highjack..



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