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| Quote: | Originally posted by RichnLinda
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Absolutely not wishing to diminish the fact that Jesse's restaurant is perhaps the best in all of BCS, I have to admit that the Thanksgiving menu did
give me pause, simply because Thanksgiving is not a holiday in Mexico.
Pandering to the gringo and ex-pat crowd?  |
Día de Gracias has been co-opted by many in Mexico. After all....it's good food.
Speaking of which.....I saw Turkeys for sale in WalMart here yesterday and the price is staggering. It must be difficult for a restaurant to price a
dinner and still make a profit.
I'm under the impression that there's a huge Turkey industry in Mexico, judgeing from the many brands of Turkey hotdogs for sale in the stores.
Another thing that takes up a lot of freezer space here is Smoked Turkey. The whole bird....smoked. One of these days I'll get drunk brave and buy
one, just to see what it's about. |
Dennis most people I have talked to get their turkeys in the states or
get who ever is going in to pick one up. |
You'll love this then. In CLS a grocery store is selling expired-date frozen turkeys for $849 pesos -- $63 dollars. Must be a big one! LOL Can't
be much of a market for them if they sit in the store freezers for over two years years.
http://noticabos.org/2011/11/17/supermercado-de-los-cabos-ve...
"Los Cabos supermarket sells turkeys to tourists that expired two years ago
Se trata del supermercado Arámburo, que queda en pleno centro de la ciudad de Cabo San Lucas y el cual atiende a una clientela conformada por más del
80% de turistas. El pavo tenía fecha de caducidad de enero de 2010, es decir, para comerlo en Navidad o Fin de Año del 2009.
Noticabos ha recibido distintos tipos de agresiones verbales por haber publicado distintos temas en defensa de los turistas por sobre las “Vergüenzas”
del Municipio y del Estado. Entre los mínimos conceptos que hemos recibidos, están los de que somos los responsables de espantar al turismo. Sin
embargo, no somos nosotros, sino los comerciantes inescrupulosos, y las autoridades que no hacen sus trabajos.
This is about the Arámburo supermarket that is in downtown Cabo San Lucas and which has customers who are 80% tourists. The turkey had a January, 2010
expiration date, that is to say, it was for eating for Christmas 2009 or the New Years.
Noticabos has received many verbal complaints against us for publicizing matters in defense of tourists and embarrassing the town and the state. Among
the complaints we have received is that we are responsible for scaring away tourists. However, it is not us, but the unscrupulous businesses and the
authorities who do not do their job."
(This years's frozen Turkeys at Von's and Ralph's for $8-$11 with a $25 purchase.)
[Edited on 11-19-2011 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by RichnLinda
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Absolutely not wishing to diminish the fact that Jesse's restaurant is perhaps the best in all of BCS, I have to admit that the Thanksgiving menu did
give me pause, simply because Thanksgiving is not a holiday in Mexico.
Pandering to the gringo and ex-pat crowd? |
Día de Gracias has been co-opted by many in Mexico. After all....it's good food.
Speaking of which.....I saw Turkeys for sale in WalMart here yesterday and the price is staggering. It must be difficult for a restaurant to price a
dinner and still make a profit.
I'm under the impression that there's a huge Turkey industry in Mexico, judgeing from the many brands of Turkey hotdogs for sale in the stores.
Another thing that takes up a lot of freezer space here is Smoked Turkey. The whole bird....smoked. One of these days I'll get drunk brave and buy
one, just to see what it's about. |
Dennis most people I have talked to get their turkeys in the states or
get who ever is going in to pick one up. |
You'll love this then. In CLS a grocery store is selling expired-date frozen turkeys for $849 pesos -- $63 dollars. Must be a big one! LOL Can't
be much of a market for them if they sit in the store freezers for over two years years.
http://noticabos.org/2011/11/17/supermercado-de-los-cabos-ve...
"Los Cabos supermarket sells turkeys to tourists that expired two years ago
Se trata del supermercado Arámburo, que queda en pleno centro de la ciudad de Cabo San Lucas y el cual atiende a una clientela conformada por más del
80% de turistas. El pavo tenía fecha de caducidad de enero de 2010, es decir, para comerlo en Navidad o Fin de Año del 2009.
Noticabos ha recibido distintos tipos de agresiones verbales por haber publicado distintos temas en defensa de los turistas por sobre las “Vergüenzas”
del Municipio y del Estado. Entre los mínimos conceptos que hemos recibidos, están los de que somos los responsables de espantar al turismo. Sin
embargo, no somos nosotros, sino los comerciantes inescrupulosos, y las autoridades que no hacen sus trabajos.
This is about the Arámburo supermarket that is in downtown Cabo San Lucas and which has customers who are 80% tourists. The turkey had a January, 2010
expiration date, that is to say, it was for eating for Christmas 2009 or the New Years.
Noticabos has received many verbal complaints against us for publicizing matters in defense of tourists and embarrassing the town and the state. Among
the complaints we have received is that we are responsible for scaring away tourists. However, it is not us, but the unscrupulous businesses and the
authorities who do not do their job."
(This years's frozen Turkeys at Von's and Ralph's for $8-$11 with a $25 purchase.)
[Edited on 11-19-2011 by Woooosh] |
Sound's like a great deal with the $25 purchase but they are not Butterball®. There are turkey's and then there are Butterball®.
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"Sound's like a great deal with the $25 purchase but they are not Butterball®. There are turkey's and then there are Butterball®."
When you brine it- where does the Butter go?
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It's Good Living Just South of the Border in Rosarito
Mija arrived on Thursday, after shopping in San Diego for our early Thanksgiving feast (she has to get back to work).
She bought a 24.63 lbs. turkey for $34.24 (before discount).
It is roasting in the oven now!
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
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\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by morgaine7
What's the danger of expired frozen turkey, anyhow? I mean, it's going to be cooked for several hours ... |
Then why have an expiration date?
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
| Quote: | Originally posted by morgaine7
What's the danger of expired frozen turkey, anyhow? I mean, it's going to be cooked for several hours ... |
Then why have an expiration date? |
"Freezer Burn" changes the flavor and texture profiles. You would also need to consider that it may have been inadvertently defrosted a few times
over those two years sitting in a CSL freezer. That would make it dangerous to eat.
[Edited on 11-19-2011 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by morgaine7
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You'll love this then. In CLS a grocery store is selling expired-date frozen turkeys for $849 pesos -- $63 dollars. Must be a big one! LOL Can't
be much of a market for them if they sit in the store freezers for over two years years. |
I'll stick with Jesse's version, thanks.
What's the danger of expired frozen turkey, anyhow? I mean, it's going to be cooked for several hours ... |
We have a local market in Imperial Beach---used to be an IGA. They sell lots of outdated stuff and are not happy when we show them something
outdated. One carton of cream cheese was six months out of date. Nor was the owner happy when she would not accept the label and receipt for some
spoiled chicken we bought one day and she wanted to see the chicken. We did as she asked.
We had opened the package of chicken right when we got home, and well there is nothing that smells as bad as spoiled chicken, so it went into the
trash. But she wanted it, so we came home, pulled it out of the trash and took it back, opened the bag and set it on her counter---she was not a
happy camper but refunded our money.
But the turkeys were the best. Several months after the holidays they had a sell on FRESH turkeys and John bought one. And yes, there was an
expiration date on the top label. But as I went to open the wrapping, I noticed another label that had been covered over. It was the original label
that had an expiration date of several months before. She had frozen the left over holiday turkeys, thawed them out and was selling them as FRESH
turkeys---back to the store it went. That was the final straw even though they are the closest market.
The Von's deal is great and we stock up on Turkey's over the holidays and keep them frozen for later in the year and to take to Baja to share with
friends who seldom get to eat turkey and even if we take two days to get to BA, if we do not open the Igloo, every thing stays very frozen. It takes
nothing to spend $25.00 to get the deal on the smaller birds.
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Buying meat "on sale" is always risky business.
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Put that bird in one of those baking bags, toss in anything else that you want along with it. Follow directions. It'll be a bird to remember.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by RichnLinda
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Absolutely not wishing to diminish the fact that Jesse's restaurant is perhaps the best in all of BCS, I have to admit that the Thanksgiving menu did
give me pause, simply because Thanksgiving is not a holiday in Mexico.
Pandering to the gringo and ex-pat crowd? |
Día de Gracias has been co-opted by many in Mexico. After all....it's good food.
Speaking of which.....I saw Turkeys for sale in WalMart here yesterday and the price is staggering. It must be difficult for a restaurant to price a
dinner and still make a profit.
I'm under the impression that there's a huge Turkey industry in Mexico, judgeing from the many brands of Turkey hotdogs for sale in the stores.
Another thing that takes up a lot of freezer space here is Smoked Turkey. The whole bird....smoked. One of these days I'll get drunk brave and buy
one, just to see what it's about. |
Dennis most people I have talked to get their turkeys in the states or
get who ever is going in to pick one up. |
You'll love this then. In CLS a grocery store is selling expired-date frozen turkeys for $849 pesos -- $63 dollars. Must be a big one! LOL Can't
be much of a market for them if they sit in the store freezers for over two years years.
http://noticabos.org/2011/11/17/supermercado-de-los-cabos-ve...
"Los Cabos supermarket sells turkeys to tourists that expired two years ago
Se trata del supermercado Arámburo, que queda en pleno centro de la ciudad de Cabo San Lucas y el cual atiende a una clientela conformada por más del
80% de turistas. El pavo tenía fecha de caducidad de enero de 2010, es decir, para comerlo en Navidad o Fin de Año del 2009.
Noticabos ha recibido distintos tipos de agresiones verbales por haber publicado distintos temas en defensa de los turistas por sobre las “Vergüenzas”
del Municipio y del Estado. Entre los mínimos conceptos que hemos recibidos, están los de que somos los responsables de espantar al turismo. Sin
embargo, no somos nosotros, sino los comerciantes inescrupulosos, y las autoridades que no hacen sus trabajos.
This is about the Arámburo supermarket that is in downtown Cabo San Lucas and which has customers who are 80% tourists. The turkey had a January, 2010
expiration date, that is to say, it was for eating for Christmas 2009 or the New Years.
Noticabos has received many verbal complaints against us for publicizing matters in defense of tourists and embarrassing the town and the state. Among
the complaints we have received is that we are responsible for scaring away tourists. However, it is not us, but the unscrupulous businesses and the
authorities who do not do their job."
(This years's frozen Turkeys at Von's and Ralph's for $8-$11 with a $25 purchase.)
[Edited on 11-19-2011 by Woooosh] |
My first thought, as I started to read your post, was that it had to be Aramburo.
This guy was the first elected governor of BCS, and virtually owned the only supermarkets to be found. (excluding the mom and pop bodegas)
For a long time, his Supermercado Plaza in downtown San Lucas was a magnet for the tourist from the local hotels and timeshares.
If memory serves me, despite Aramburo's lobbying, somewhere around ten years ago, Soriana built a store in Brisas Del Pacifico, shortly followed by a
CCC store. Mind you that CCC was a small family run business that had but two other stores in La Paz.
Once Soriana broke the log jam, well... the Los Cabos folks have since seen the opening of another Soriana, a Comex (Mega), a Walmart, Sam's Club
Costco, and City Club.
Aramburo's original location was, from its early days, a sorry place. But since he catered to the gringo tourist, business was brisk, because those
tourist preferred to by milk imported from California, for instance.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Pandering to the gringo and ex-pat crowd? |
Gee... unless one has gone majorly more "native" than most folks here on this board, it's those local "panderers" that make life in Mexico attractive
or perhaps even bearable for gringos. Tell me you don't appreciate easily being able to use dollars, finding your favorite imported foodstuffs, a
doctor who speaks "your" language, driving around with foreign-plated cars, etc.  |
Actually, your comments beg the whole issue of why folks move to foreign countries. I clearly remember how overjoyed the time share sales people were
when a McDonalds opened in Cabo.
What you cite is clearly the difference between people who relocate to a foreign country simply for lower overhead, but really want to live the
lifestyle from back home cheaper.
Ajijic. Check it out. Gringos in a walled community near Guadalajara- a great example.
Have your cake and eat it.
Hey. If it works for you, great. Just pointing out that folks choosing to live in a foreign nation should, first and foremost, realize they are in a
foreign nation.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Hey. If it works for you, great. Just pointing out that folks choosing to live in a foreign nation should, first and foremost, realize they are in a
foreign nation. |
So the Pilgrims never should have introduced Thanksgiving to the native americans in the first place?
[Edited on 11-20-2011 by Woooosh]
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When Teina and her sister and I had the "turkey Feasts" in San Felipe, I smoked all the turkeys - 9 one year. Brinkman smokers - all night. A few
Nomads can tell you how they tasted.
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Now that's one gorgeous bacon wrapped turkey dog!
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Here is how I smoke my Turkey, with layers of bacon on top.
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Oh, it's getting close to Turkey Day... cannot wait! |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Mija arrived on Thursday, after shopping in San Diego for our early Thanksgiving feast (she has to get back to work).
She bought a 24.63 lbs. turkey for $34.24 (before discount).
It is roasting in the oven now! |
Great deal. Just a few minutes ago I saw them at Albertsons for $46.00
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Good friend part-timer next door came into town the other day and handed over to us a 15lb turkey. He said he got a two for one turkey thing NODB and
at first thought what would I do with two.....then thought it could work as ice in the cooler and he knew we would know what to do with a surprise
turkey!
Yahoo for us! Have enjoyed apple-onion stuffed bbq turkey these past days and are looking forward to friends and family starting to arrive for the
traditional stuff.
OK, nothing really of interest here other than just nice turkey and Thanksgiving thoughts. Lucky us. Tenemos suerte bueno.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by morgaine7
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You'll love this then. In CLS a grocery store is selling expired-date frozen turkeys for $849 pesos -- $63 dollars. Must be a big one! LOL Can't
be much of a market for them if they sit in the store freezers for over two years years. |
I'll stick with Jesse's version, thanks.
What's the danger of expired frozen turkey, anyhow? I mean, it's going to be cooked for several hours ... |
We have a local market in Imperial Beach---used to be an IGA. They sell lots of outdated stuff and are not happy when we show them something
outdated. One carton of cream cheese was six months out of date. Nor was the owner happy when she would not accept the label and receipt for some
spoiled chicken we bought one day and she wanted to see the chicken. We did as she asked.
We had opened the package of chicken right when we got home, and well there is nothing that smells as bad as spoiled chicken, so it went into the
trash. But she wanted it, so we came home, pulled it out of the trash and took it back, opened the bag and set it on her counter---she was not a
happy camper but refunded our money.
But the turkeys were the best. Several months after the holidays they had a sell on FRESH turkeys and John bought one. And yes, there was an
expiration date on the top label. But as I went to open the wrapping, I noticed another label that had been covered over. It was the original label
that had an expiration date of several months before. She had frozen the left over holiday turkeys, thawed them out and was selling them as FRESH
turkeys---back to the store it went. That was the final straw even though they are the closest market.
The Von's deal is great and we stock up on Turkey's over the holidays and keep them frozen for later in the year and to take to Baja to share with
friends who seldom get to eat turkey and even if we take two days to get to BA, if we do not open the Igloo, every thing stays very frozen. It takes
nothing to spend $25.00 to get the deal on the smaller birds. |
Where is that market, is it on Coronado?
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Man, turkey's are expensive this year. But that will NOT stop me from smoking my bird with bacon on top!
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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