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David K
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ISN'T THIS FUN?!
Thank you Satellite Man... Exploring Baja on the Internet is the next best thing to actually being there!!!  
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TMW
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David the dry lake you mention on page 18 of the almanac is at 29-15. That trail thru there from the pacific to Chapala is the original 2003 Baja 1000
course. It was not used due to the heavy silt beds. I preran that section and we passed two dry lake beds.
Turn from pacific at 29-10-49 x 114-44-20 elev-100ft.
1st dry lake at 29-15-07 x 114-33-43 elev-1188ft.
2nd dry lake at 29-20-54 x 114-26-52 elev-2139ft. This El Islote on map page 18.
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Thanks SM Those are great - adding the overhead photo to the 3D does wonders - maybe in another 4-5 years I'll have figured out how to do it almost as
well as you.
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David K
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Yes TW, 29 degrees 15 minutes... thank you!
Thanks for pointing out my typo, on my web page I had the correct latitude.
Since you drove that road, does it go onto the lake bed and that's where you got the waypoint, or just near the bed? When it is full of water (like in
the photos) I guess there's a dry road detour if the road is on the lake?
Can you describe the road between Chapala and the coast? 4WD needed, any bad places (I hope ). Does the road drive on El Islote... that seems like a bigger lake than Chapala?
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TMW
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David there were 6 of us in three trucks. At the turn off at the coast there is this huge slit area as shown on the map page 18 upper left called
Playa Christie. It's about 2 miles across maybe more. Another couple of miles and you climb up out of the valley. The best I recall is the dry lakes
were both to the left of the road. We were just on the edge of them. They were both dry when we preran but if it were to rain I could see they could
be a problem. I went thru in my Toyota in 4 wheel drive but other than the soft silt the road is good for 2 wheel drive. We were among the first to
prerun in there so the silt was not too bad. We were with Stuart Chase and he had lost front wheel drive on his Tahoe 4x4 before this. He had no
problems in there. This road is not as difficult as the road further south on page 20 that goes east by Cordornices out to hwy 1 at KM252.
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David K
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Fantastic Tom, thanks!
Playa Christie and the silt beds are actually on Map 20 (see how easy it is to goof on numbers like I did?)...
The next road south, which is mapped, via San Antonio (Codornices) is tougher, you say... interesting! 4baja has used it to get from the Pacific to
L.A. Bay, but says there is an unmapped short-cut from near Cordonices (San Antonio) to Hwy. 1 near the (old or new?) L.A. Bay junction.
So much Baja... So little time!
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TMW
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Thanks David. The tough part about the road thru San Antonio is when coming west to east you have to climb up a fairly long rocky hill and depending
on rains etc it can be problem. Going east to west is a lot easier as it's down hill. Also at the bottom of the hill you travel thru a sand wash and
if you have a 2 wheel drive truck you better know what your doing when going west to east especially. I've been both ways and it's a fun route. It's
been two years since I've been that way but there were two recent ranchos in there. One near the bottom of the hill near the wash and the other about
half way.
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Hi all,
I thought you might enjoy this little fly through of the ?Lost Lake? area that I did with satellite imagery. So, read on to get Lost Lake the Movie!
I?m going to share the movie file through my Yahoo account. Because of file size limitation I?ve had to break the file into 6 parts with HjSplit. So
you will have to put them back together with Join.
The files are large (about 13 megs each). So, I would recommend that you have a high-speed connection such as DSL or Cable
I?ve included Join with the downloads, so just follow the instruction bellow:
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Go to this link:
http://f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/aeshraghi@sbcglobal.net/...
2. You will see 8 files
3. Right mouse click on the first file and Save Target As?.
4. Save the file in a directory specified by you. DO NOT change file names!
5. Repeat the same for the remaining files and make sure you save all the files in the same directory.
6. Now it?s time to join them: Double click on Join32.exe. This will automatically join the file and give it the output file name:
loast_lake_movie_2.avi
7. If Join32.exe doesn?t work for you then try Join16.exe
8. Now you can watch the movie by double clicking on loast_lake_movie_2.avi
Good luck and let me know what you think.
By the way, the files will be deleted in about 5 days.
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David K
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Lost Lake on 1962 Map
From the Lower California Guidebook, here is part of Map #7 showing central Baja, far from any paved roads, then!
The triangle shaped lakebed between Chapala and the Pacific is the 'Lost Lake'.
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thebajarunner
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Lost Lake fishing
Baja Vida claims he caught a native Brook trout in that lake last year....
but we mostly kept him in camp, so I cannot vouch for the veracity of his report.
Baja Arriba!!
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David K
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What... no giant black snook? Did Ray Cannon fish out the lost lake, too?
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On the black & white map from 1962 Lake Chapala is dead center on the map - I had to hunt for it and post this so others may easily find it.
Pretty cool adventure!
[Edited on 9-27-2004 by synch]
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David K
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Directions to Lost Lake?
Sorry... It's LOST!!!
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David K
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This was fun... exploring Baja from Satellite Man's images! When are we going?
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Desertbull
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Good info TW...
Actually WB and myself worked that early before the race course was published...and a couple "other guys" who were working with us drove to the edge
of the water...yes, there were rains at the time and it had water in it...and they reported it was not passable...we jogged off to the south a bit and
there is a very noticable go around...on the higher portion of the lake bed...anyway, from that moment on its been renamed in our group as Laguna
Pende-Oh (sp)...and we call those two lost souls the Harbormasters of Laguna Pende-Oh...all in good fun, but horrible to hear yourself referred to on
the radio at the "Harbormaster of Laguna Pende-Oh...
TW...when we went through there that so-called silt bed was NADA...a month later during the early first days of the open prerun...it was brutal hence
the change in the course...some gorgeous stuff back in that area..and you dead on about climbing those iffy rock slithered roads in and out of the
access...Good find.
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