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Germanicus
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well, am I wrong ?
To me the problem starts with ?returning from a bar @ 2 oclock in the morning prsumably driving ?????
No Mexican drives along the ??Main Bar Street ?? in La Paz at 2 o clock and having the belly full of Cerveca.
So, what is the problem anyway?
That money pays for the failure to behave in traffic appropriately.
Am I wrong???
Otherwise have a nice day
Frank
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jrbaja
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Yes Frank
you are probably wrong. The La Paz PD has been earning a reputation for years for false fines and apparently more than that.
Aldo knows La Paz and of what he speaks.
After driving straight through to La Paz years ago, I was fined for a piece of firewood that could possibly have fallen out of my truck but didn't.
Nevermind the fact that it made it from San Diego without falling out. We were so tired we paid the $20.00. Sure learned my lesson about carrying
firewood and crooked cops though!
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Germanicus
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well JR, good to know.
So I am learning my lesson by reading ,,, that?s cheaper.
But I make a wild guess::::
After I lived in BCS maybe for a year or two,,,, maybe I can report similar stories?
Seams to me highly possible.
Understanding the Mexicans and how they try to make money,, well,, it might not be appropriate how they do it, but isn?t it somehow understandable?
It all depends on on which side of the fence one is standing.
Take care
Frank
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jrbaja
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Yes indeedy
reading is way cheaper
And yes, they do need money but, thievery is thievery and those that have experienced it on more than a couple occasions get tired of it.
And, as long as you are legal here, it is your right and duty to do something about it.
There was another incident farther north since you were gone and something is being done about it. We don't know the outcome yet but wheels are
turning.
As many know on here, I am pretty outspoken about wrong information being given.
And I try to talk openly about pretty much everything rather than ignore problems as many who attack me for it seem to prefer.
In my opinion, it's the only way to find a way to remedy any issues or problems. Same applies to corruption.
The more it is discussed and dealt with, the more they will think about the consequences and perhaps at least cut down on these incidents in the
future.
Have you gotten your FM3 ? That should be one of your first steps if you haven't already.
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Germanicus
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Very correct what you are saying.
But do you really think you can change habits in BCS or all over Mexico by talking about a robbery / corruption ?
I highly doubt that.
Well I leanrned my first lessons (plural) already.
But thanks to bajanomad - info I was aware of them.
1. I purchased a car. Looked at it, drove it, everything o.k. papers as well.
When we agreed that tha car has to be delivered to Gardenias(where I stay) there was a huge hole in the console and in the trunk.
The stereo / radio was gone.
So I rehjected to take the car, although it was agreed in a (verbal) contract.
Then I purchased a different one.
When first time gasing it up, the pump already showed 103 pesos.
I just pointed wih the finger on the marker and the guy at the station just moved the lift >nozzel hangs on it< a little bit and ......... voila....
the marker resets to zero.
Thanx folks for those warnings.
But I guess, as mentioned already, I will make my experiance the hard way > which is o.k. > it is Mexico.
JR, FM3 I got 6 month time for doing that. I do have the papers already, but want to wait because of the question: Where did you live during the past
three month.
I guess, when I can answer that question by saying : lived in BCS, it might make it easier.
What do you think?
Take care and see you soon.
Frank
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aldosalato
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My friend was walking home, not driving........
Problem is that the policemen denies even having met and taken him to the main station.
They are blatantly lying about the whole story because they know they could go to jail.
In ten days my friend will fly back to Italy.
Technicalities (yes even in Mexico lawyers protect better a thief than an honest person) will probably save the corrupted police from getting
fired........ but we will try to keep the fight on till the end........
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aldosalato
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POLICEMAN GOT FIRED!!
The CONTRALORIA MUNICIPAL fired the guy that stole the money.
MARCO ANTONIO VILLANUEVA has no job anymore.
He is still subject to criminal charges at Ministerio Publico but doubt he will go to jail.
In any case I am happy enough with the sentence from the La Paz Municipal Government.
VIVA MEXICO!!!
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lizard lips
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Good JOB Aldo! Everyone should do this in these cases.....Even you TIO ROCKY.....Im sorry for what happened to you and your Wife but you should have
gone to the Ministerio Publico and filed a complaint. It is the only recourse we have living in Mexico.:
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yankeeirishman
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I keep these numbers
You may want to keep these numbers in your wallet. They will help with "police problems" if you have a decent complaint. Sometimes a call from them to
police headquarters does well. The Mexican Ministry of Tourism wants your dollar spent in their cities; this department does react to corruption
complaints.
In Case of Emergency
Call (55) 5250-0123, the 24-hour hotline of the Mexican Ministry of Tourism. They also have a national toll free number: (01) 800-903-9200.
[Edited on 3-1-2005 by yankeeirishman]
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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Jack Swords
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Thanks
Thanks Aldo from the rest of us living in La Paz. I have found that making the authorities aware of a problem has sincere listeners. To ignore
corruption and/or thievery just allows it to continue. It's not a perfect world, here or in the US, but every little bit helps. Mexico is changing
in many ways and we have found gov't officials to want to do the right thing.
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Bajabus
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Mood: My friends..it's good.
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One of the worst offenders in the mordid category in LP is the motorcycle cop at the northern end of the malecon where it turns inland. Between that
point and the CCC you can usually see him with some hapless tourist or gringo pulled over to the side. He is very aggressive but if you stand your
ground and ask to be taken to the police station he backs down. Particularly if he asks for payment of the fine upfront and you say no problem he
just has to give you a signed recipt for it with the plate # of his bike. Then you get the "well this is a warning sing song"
The guy is bad news.
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aldosalato
The CONTRALORIA MUNICIPAL fired the guy that stole the money.
MARCO ANTONIO VILLANUEVA has no job anymore.
He is still subject to criminal charges at Ministerio Publico but doubt he will go to jail.
In any case I am happy enough with the sentence from the La Paz Municipal Government.
VIVA MEXICO!!! |
Aldo, i would one day love to drink a Pacifico with you, congratulations on a job well done!!!!
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