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chuckie
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Wow! Thats a bit holier than thou...The Pinzgauer was a fun project, and we used it everyday, if you havnt seen NW Kansas snow and mud you dunno what
yuck is...The Pinzi never once said, I'd like to kill some one today....It just did its job....Snow on an interstate? WOW! gimme a break..
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acadist
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here's another one you may like;
http://www.earthroamer.com/
what I like better about this one is they are one of my customers and the more nomads buy them the more Baja trips I can afford
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by acadist
here's another one you may like;
http://www.earthroamer.com/
what I like better about this one is they are one of my customers and the more nomads buy them the more Baja trips I can afford
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Wow! I'm going to forward the link to a relative that services remote oil wells in Canada. I'm sure he would be interested. Can you provide (or U2U
me) the approximate price?
Bob Durrell
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MrBillM
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Killer JEEPS ?
They were, after all, designed for the same purpose.
Which is not a negative.
Necessity IS the Mother of Invention.
And, there's no bigger MOTHER than losing at war.
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vgabndo
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Mr. Bill Says: And, there's no bigger MOTHER than losing at war.
When did wilderness camping become war, and when did a camper start needing a military vehicle to go camping?
If one doesn't have the personal conviction, physical health, and ingenuity required to camp in a remote area without the need for a hundred gallons
of diesel fuel to to light the stove and make light to cook by, one can always spend $170,000 and grind-up the countryside trying to get where a
backpacker goes. The backpacker may do so without turning-over a stone.
Remember, if you have any money in any bank, you have more money than 75% of the humans on this earth. Conspicuous consumption by the few, it seems,
must contribute to the poverty of the many.
Chuckie says: Snow on an interstate? WOW! gimme a break..
Kansas, Chuckie? Kansas? Mt. Sunflower, the highest point in all of Kansas, and home of the many world renowned ski areas, tops out at 4039 feet. The
tiniest pimple of a mountain with a name around here is Black Butte at 6334. The I-5 crossing of Black Butte summit is at 3912. (that is still 4000
feet lower than the highest paved road adjacent to town) People manage to crash and close I-5 here EVERY year even in very moderate storms. The most
snow I've ever seen at Black Butte was seven feet, but the wind blows a lot of it away. We commonly get a foot a day for days. Last winter in Kansas a
new record was set when you were slammed with 8.5 inches of snow in the NW area.
Snow on an interstate, yes, often, severe, and made more dangerous by drivers who think that 8" is a lot of snow.
I'll admit that 40 years of dodging out-of-control flatlanders has left me a bit judgmental. 
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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chuckie
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I lived and ranched in Colorado for most of my life, left when the Kalifornians began to Kalifornicate it....Snow on an interstate? give me a break,
try working cows at 6000 feet in march....Once a military vehicle is retired, it becomes whatever it becomes....If you believe they have a soul, you
are going to the wrong church...Dont drive anything made by General Motors, they made hummers, Fords? Nope, Bradleys...Dodges, Nope Ambulances,
Cummins. Allison? Nope..Best be buyin Nikes (Pearl Harbor) you be walkin....
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MrBillM
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Stupid IS ?
Vag seems to be the guy who brought up WAR in relation to Utility Vehicles.
"............I assume you are referring to their use in killing and getting killed, which is a lot different than heading to Yreka
over Black Butte Summit on Interstate 5 in a white out. In the latter case the intention is to come home without anyone dying There is far more
utility in any number of other vehicles which are easier to control and STOP. These things were built for war. I guess they are good
for that as long as the enemy doesn't know how to build an IED".
I was merely responding to the absurdity.
The Jeep was designed as a weapon of war in the same sense as the Haflinger/Pinzgauer.
WAR was the Mother of their Invention.
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chuckie
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Or maybe a rancher that needed something to haul a hay wagon in a blizzard....????
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Correcamino
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Ha ha! Nothing breeds arguments like comparing offroad equipment! To get back to the Unimog, I used to fantasize about having one of these Unimog
campers, ever since I saw one Saline Valley, CA. But if you think it through it's more of a cool hobby than a truly effective tool to get to remote
campsites and camp in luxury. Check out the blog of this Unimog owner doing a Baja trip:
http://www.billcaid.com/2011/BajaTrip20110226/Part3/Part3.ht...
He's got lots of other adventures on his site as well, several in Baja. But you can see that he has many of the problems mentioned here: really less
capable in most ways than a good 4x4 truck or jeep, trouble with complex mechanicals that you'll never fix in MX, no spare parts, guzzles diesel,
etc. Listen to this bitter complaint about the washboard going out to Gonzaga:
"The road from Mex 1 to Gonzaga truly sucked. While graded, it was heavily traveled and badly washborded. The entire group agreed that this was
one of the worst segments that we suffered during the trip."
So he's no better off than the rest of us on lots of Baja roads. Also, If you DO get stuck, who the ***k is gonna pull you out? I'll stick with my
Xterra, but it will never be as cool:
Si sirve, sirve.
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acadist
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by acadist
here's another one you may like;
http://www.earthroamer.com/
what I like better about this one is they are one of my customers and the more nomads buy them the more Baja trips I can afford
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Wow! I'm going to forward the link to a relative that services remote oil wells in Canada. I'm sure he would be interested. Can you provide (or U2U
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If you have to ask you can't afford it Not sure exactly except 6 figures
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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