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HeyMulegeScott
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It looks interesting. I doubt you will be able to buy the first year model for the sticker price. Dealers will add a markup.
I will be holding onto my Jeep for a long time.
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Ken Cooke
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Another thing to add - the promotional videos obscure the suspension droop, which is a bit craptastic. The wheel well openings aren't big enough for
tires larger than a 37". My Gladiator could run a 38" tire without a suspension lift on the street, for example. For the casual driver to National
parks for something on mild to moderate trails, it should be fine.
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PaulW
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I see a lot of 4 dr Jeeps on 37s doing the most difficult obstacles Moab has to offer. But the biggest tire Bronco has to offer is 35s - better than
Jeep 33s.
The Gladiator is an anomaly which is really great.
Actually I have no idea of the strength of the Gladiator diffs. D44 M220s I think? Same as the V8 Jeep? and same as the best Bronco.
Having destroyed the D44/35s on my TJ I would want D60s myself with such big tires or such high torque as the V8?
Droop for the Bronco is totally unknown at this point. All the videos are from the promo bunch at Ford. No independent testing so far.
The Gladiator is on my list of top 3.
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JZ
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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  | I see a lot of 4 dr Jeeps on 37s doing the most difficult obstacles Moab has to offer. But the biggest tire Bronco has to offer is 35s - better than
Jeep 33s.
The Gladiator is an anomaly which is really great.
Actually I have no idea of the strength of the Gladiator diffs. D44 M220s I think? Same as the V8 Jeep? and same as the best Bronco.
Having destroyed the D44/35s on my TJ I would want D60s myself with such big tires or such high torque as the V8?
Droop for the Bronco is totally unknown at this point. All the videos are from the promo bunch at Ford. No independent testing so far.
The Gladiator is on my list of top 3. |
You can get 37's from the factory on the Bronco.
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advrider
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I plan to run 35's on my Gladiator with just a leveling kit and don't for see any strength problems. It's not going to be a hard core rock crawler but
I won't have a problem with taking it on the Rubicon or the mission trail out of Catavina.
Our Gladiator will see a lot of miles towing on the highway as well as mild off-roading so I will pass on the 37's even though I think it
would hold up just fine.
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PaulW
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JZ,
Yes, the warthog is speculated to have 37s, 35s for the rest of them. Lots of Ford videos on it running around. No pictures of the tires. Warthog
does not exist so far. Speculation a new build & price link will be available in January and ordering can proceed then. Even then a detailed
description will be needed before commiting to a unknown.
Trouble is the Warthog may not be what many people will desire. Many do not want a reduced size Raptor, but want a more universal application rig.
Wait a month and see.
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Ken Cooke
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A Gladiator doesn't need a suspension lift or even a spacer lift to run 35's from the factory as the vehicle is, "Package-protected" to run 35's
without any modifications made to the vehicle, per Jeep engineers. The Rubicon and Mojave D44's are said to handle some "hard use." Sean Holman at
FOURWHEELER recently posted this photo, testing the Mojave and it's Fox 2.5 shocks and suspension for the FOURWHEELER pickup truck of the year test.
I asked Sean to push the Mojave as far as they could, so us owners would know what its Dana axles could do (without having to run the Artec axle
housing truss or Dynatrack D44 front housing.
I'm running the base Fox 2.0 IFP shocks on my Gladiator, and it does just fine controlling the big 38's. My hoist is going to position an ARB roof
top tent on it and when the weather warms up, take the wife out to the desert to do some overnight camping.
[Edited on 12-14-2020 by Ken Cooke]
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JZ
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The Bronco is just a much better looking vehicle than the Gladiator.
And so many small details that are better, from the factory.
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looks like G500 with the roof cut off
Harald Pietschmann
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I'm sure there will be a market for both, I like the truck look of the Gladiator over the SUV look of the Bronco.
If Toyota had something with a solid front axle they would be a front runner with the Gladiator for me. Some people like San Felipe, some
don't! LOL....
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G wagons are ridiculously high price, are priced only for posers.
New Land Rover looks better than the jeep or bronco.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Toyota 4Runner is the time tested 4x4 SUV and looks great, too.
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The Wildcat is a pretty sweet model. Hubby wants me to get one but it's already hard enough to get into his truck. Wild cat has 35" tires.
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama | | The Wildcat is a pretty sweet model. Hubby wants me to get one but it's already hard enough to get into his truck. Wild cat has 35" tires.
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I think you mean Wildtrak. And yes, that is the one to get. Just beautiful and capable.
Black and Area 51 colors look really cool.
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Maybe the old ones. Went out in the bush with a friend who had a new for 4 runner. I had my old F350, a real truck. I waddled through some soft
sand and he followed me. He got stuck. He said he had his “settings” for the wrong type of road surface, WTF! What happened to four low and go.
The new Toyota’s are over priced all terrain shopping units. I hope this does not start a Toyota bashing thread, I hate those ......
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck |
Maybe the old ones. Went out in the bush with a friend who had a new for 4 runner. I had my old F350, a real truck. I waddled through some soft
sand and he followed me. He got stuck. He said he had his “settings” for the wrong type of road surface, WTF! What happened to four low and go.
The new Toyota’s are over priced all terrain shopping units. I hope this does not start a Toyota bashing thread, I hate those ......
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Sounds like driver error not Toyota error... even he said he set it wrong. Some sand in Baja still requires deflating the tires. You drive until
forward motion slows to a stop and then stop.. don't spin the tires! Let the air out to 10-20 psi range, then drive with ease.
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