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Ateo
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  |
Maybe they could get on a crowded bus for a 20-hour trip back to the border. 
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Ohhhhhh nooooooo. I hadn't thought of that option yet!!
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maspacificoII
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Or, get on a Volaris flight to TJ and walk across. No test.
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eastmeetswest
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Unless they are Canadian? Then they still need a test at the border.
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  |
Do you all know the NYT's took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Chinese government in 2020 to place favorable Chinese stories? It has since
deleted all those stories from its archives. Something it never does going back a hundred plus years.
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That may or may not be true. Why are you posting this? You keep posting BS political nonsense and some here respond. It’s bait and
you’re trolling.
“99.9% of republicans are vaccinated.” You wrote that. I’m paraphrasing. Zero credibility. Stop whining.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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ligui
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David was really sorry to read your post about the govt creating panic and hysteria to gain more power money.
Maybe you should read more about the big lie and help fund the former president so he can clear things up.
Remember he is the one who said this would just go away
I thought you had more sense . I am disappointed.
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Skipjack Joe
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Many unvaccinated are dying and regretting their decisions:
https://www.montgomerynews.com/around_the_web/national_news/gop-official-who-mocked-masks-and-vaccine-dies-from-virus/video_578725f7-c652-5a01-b5ee-67
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ligui
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ND Canuck ,Purdue right on
tioloco your light bulb seems a little dim.
Everybody get the shot wear a mask for a little while . Stop the whiining. And we can get over this.
Turn to to the next page please
Viva Baja.
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SFandH
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9 Aug 2021 - Active Cases in Hospital
Compare last August (pre-vax, pre-delta) to this August (vax ongoing, delta). I wonder what the numbers would be like today without the vaccines.
Data Sources:
BC - Comisión Estatal de Servicios Públicos de Tijuana -
https://m.facebook.com/CesptOficial/
BCS - https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/casos-covid-19/
"active cases are those that are two weeks old and can be contagious today. This is known by laboratory tests of people who go to hospitals."
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/2020/04/30/conferencia-30-de-abri...
Note: There's a break in the data between fall 2020 and spring 2021. That's when I'm on the beach on Bahia Concepcion.

[Edited on 8-9-2021 by SFandH]
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pauldavidmena
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Returning to the original topic is the perfect way to stop a thread in its tracks!
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SFandH
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Good news for Mexico!
"US offers to send 8.5 million more doses of vaccine"
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/us-to-send-8-5-...
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8.5 mln doses will fully vaccinate 3% of Mexico population. A little help, yes.
Speed is the factor. By the time they will have vaccinated 70% of population, those vaccinated in February and March will have lost the immunity, so
you're back to square one. They need much more vaccine - and fast.
[Edited on 8-12-2021 by Alm]
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  | Is it correct that a negative test, or medical proof of recovery from covid19 is required for boarding a flight (a shot record is not good enough)?
Are any people with covid19 vaccinations showing up with positive test results?
Do you have any way of knowing if any of the people with positive tests have symptoms of infection?
What is your impression of the accuracy of the tests, as far as false positive, or negative results?
Thank you for sharing your first hand information! |
Been off grid for a while traveling the pacific side where people in small towns are all wearing masks and are frankly scarred of covid, unlike Pubs
in the states.
Nobody has been tested positive that has had a vaccine.
People are asked the typical questions before getting a test and if they report they do have symptoms, they are immediately referred to the health
dept. Most people tested are for flights, and we completely expect them to lie as all are gringos who are not known for their honesty.
We do not know of false positives, or negatives as all positives are reported, by law, to the health dept. There are many tests available down here,
and many are bogus. fortunately my wife's lab is the most respected lab and does not cut corners in any way and has true testing materials .
Hope is all good with everyone and PLEASE wear a friction mask....its not that hard to do.
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Well, yeah, it won't do much to quash the virus. But another way to look at it is 8.5 million doses will protect 90% or so of 4.25 million people from
perhaps getting seriously ill and dying from COVID infections.
[Edited on 8-13-2021 by SFandH]
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Skipjack Joe
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Why Breakthroughs aren't fatal
"According to Graham, a person becomes severely ill when the virus enters the lungs, and that is exactly where the vaccines offer up their most
protective barrier. You see, the vaccines trigger the creation of immunoglobulins, which are proteins that function as antibodies. The main one
generated by the vaccines is immunoglobulin G (IgG) which easily moves from the blood into the lower airways (the lungs) where it can block the virus.
The level of IgG in blood needed to penetrate the tissues of the upper airways (the nose and throat) is much higher and that is why it is more
difficult to block the virus from growing in the nose."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/health/breakthrough-infection-covid-vaccine-misleading/index.html
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Another useful site for BCS
Located this site recently for a bit more info on how conditions are trending:
http://www.bajainsider.com/article/covid-19-information-rest...
Trend seems to be general improvement since early July for BCS in general
[Edited on 8-13-2021 by JDCanuck]
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SFandH
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Interesting data. Much of it came from here:
https://sites.google.com/view/rpcov19mx
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JDCanuck
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  |
Well, yeah, it won't do much to quash the virus. But another way to look at it is 8.5 million doses will protect 90% or so of 4.25 million people from
perhaps getting seriously ill and dying from COVID infections.
[Edited on 8-13-2021 by SFandH] |
I think if we prioritized those who had not developed natural antibodies through contracting the virus and recovering, we could get to a far more
resistant state much faster. Then use remaining vaccines for the previously recovered. Since latest studies show the delta breaking through the
vaccines at about the same rate as people who've recovered
this seems to make the most sense. Canada has based it's returning to Canada conditions on this standard.
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SFandH
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When you think about it, rationing vaccines is a complicated proposition. For example, Tijuana, Mexicali, and Ensenada are currently offering vaccines
to pregnant women and other adults who have already had one shot........only.
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As we were very late getting our vaccines here, we stretched out the time interval between 1st and 2nd doses to about double the recommended by
Pfizer. This way we got the maximum protection for the populace as a whole. Seemed to work very well as the new cases fell off very rapidly and we
have yet to see a major increase in hospitalizations and fatalities, and also a very high voluntary acceptance rate. It seems BC Mexico is following a
similar track:
July 29, 2021 The numbers are down, but only slightly and deaths per day are still near some of the hjighest levels in the state, But the Secretary of
Health claims that 80% of the adult population of the state has received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, as efforts to administer the
vaccine are nearing completion. There as of yet be no mention of where those who missed out will be able to receive the vaccine after the federal
program is exhausted.
[Edited on 8-14-2021 by JDCanuck]
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2 separate studies in recovered people (1 in Israel and one in UK) show between less than 1% and 4.5% breakthrough whereas breakthrough in double
vaccinated persons shows breakthrough of 62% from delta in Israel and under 10% so far in UK. Israel was vaccinated earliest and is already doing the
third booster vax.
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