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Which part of 150 meters in sea level rise don’t you get? The change in the rate of that long term rise has only been accurately measurable for
about the last 30 Years. Since GPS and this satellite.
If you look at the graph on NASA’s site even you can see that the rate of rise is lower in the satellite data than the other sources. That’s
because 70% or so of the earth is water with no way to measure sea level save from space. That has only been possible for 30 years!
The land sinking is not the sea rising or a part of human induced changes in the climate. There are places that pumping has caused subsidences but
those areas are generally localized.
The graph is for those who don’t read the boring words and it’s easy to understand. It counteracts the dogma you spread!
BTW Nothing to say about the climate Change news from Norway or China? Just Crickets Crickets Crickets!
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OK, but I think that the coming war with the Chinese/Russian axis will create more than enough “aerosols” and pollution to lower the temperature.
All the papers forecast even a very limiter exchange of Nukes will dramatically lower temperatures worldwide.
In fact soon there will be studies showing the climate effects of all the current local wars. Then there is Campi Flegrei in Italy.
I doubt that Hansen’s paper even considers that. All of you human climate Change types will be looking the wrong way when the ball drops. It won’t
be the cars and stoves, it will be the bombs and it will be colder not warmer.
NOAA wrote a paper on the smoke and soot from the bad Australian Fires several years ago stating that they actually extended La Niña as much as an
extra 2 years.
Did Hansen consider that either. Canada and Europe had a more than average number of fires this year so there’s that too!
The problem with only looking down the road is that you can step into a hole right in front of you!
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Sure, lets just ignore the problems we are aware of, because something else that might possibly happen in the future, might possibly make it a moot
point. That's one of the most lame excuses I've ever heard.
"You know, honey, I don't really see the point in starting to save for Susie's higher education- after all, the world as we know it may not even exist
by the time she graduates from high school."
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They said that plus he was also a wild and crazy warmonger was what people said about Churchill in the ‘30s Especially people in Germany who knew
exactly what was coming!
However did that turn out? You could ask my Cousin except he’s buried in Luxembourg with Paton. (Assuming you know who Paton was) you might ask the
Canadians Mountbatten abandoned at Dieppe but they, like my Cousin con only testify by their grave markers! (Assuming that you know who they were!)
Those who don’t know or believe history usually receive a refresher course assuming the survive the experience!
You still can’t say anything critical about anyone outside of the US! Very telling!
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 Paton? Does that rhyme with baton? Never heard of him. However, I am well aware of
who General Patton was.
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How does a Canadian, even a Canadian AI not know about Dieppi? I make spelling errors, we all do. Even you! When you can’t answer the question, (and
you can’t) check the spelling, punctuation better yet both.
War and there are several going on right now has everything to do with human caused climate change. Mostly they make it impossible for the whole world
to address a problem that effects the whole world.
If countries can’t stop killing each-other’s citizens long enough to make the changes necessary to “save” the planet, it’s not going to get
“saved”.
As to the comparison to the in between the wars years. Those who don’t know or ignore history do so at their own peril!
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Are you hallucinating responses here? Where did I say I don't know about Dieppe?
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When did you say you did know? You blew off the whole subject with the spelling dodge. Not a substantive answer in the bunch, just snark.
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So you wanna charge your car?
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8SkfFPw/
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Remarkably compelling argument jeez. I recently spent several days in San Diego driving a Tesla. I was most impressed. I "fueled up" while having
lunch. Super convenient.
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Currently PHEVs are a good value. We can drive to Todos Santos and back on solar. The combination of gas and solar works out to over 100mpg.
We have a Kia Niro PHEV. It’s fine for 2 people.We’ve driven it to and from BCS a few times as well. It’s better than the Nissan Rogue we had.
That said have you heard the latest primarily from Norway? The truth is finally coming out. Norway now has an 87% EV new car sales rate. But the
Greens have their collective shorts in a knot over the fact that EVs are derailing their goals of eliminating personal transport electric or otherwise
and replacing it with public transport, bicycles and walking.
Now the story is that only by reducing personal mobility can their green goals, one of which is “social justice” be met! (making everyone walk
makes everyone equal in Norway where it snows a lot!)
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Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  | | Remarkably compelling argument jeez. I recently spent several days in San Diego driving a Tesla. I was most impressed. I "fueled up" while having
lunch. Super convenient. |
Tell that to the people who were stuck in Burbank until 3am. Given the huge rise in crime I'm sure it was fun looking over their shoulders all night.
Their only saving grace is it's difficult to car jack an EV that has no juice.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | Remarkably compelling argument jeez. I recently spent several days in San Diego driving a Tesla. I was most impressed. I "fueled up" while having
lunch. Super convenient. |
Tell that to the people who were stuck in Burbank until 3am. Given the huge rise in crime I'm sure it was fun looking over their shoulders all night.
Their only saving grace is it's difficult to car jack an EV that has no juice.
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people need to plan ahead. easy solution. 
yes, e-charging stations are still a bit scarce,... so dumb people or people that plan poorly should stick to dirty fossil fuel until infrastructure
is more developed
analogous to driving in rural baja, you need to use your noggin a bit and be mindful of fueling up, since there are not fuel stations every mile
Woke!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Researchers report mass bleaching of coral reefs in warming Florida.
https://nordot.app/1093087583949062207?c=592622757532812385
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How many more EV chargers does the US need?
The United States has a goal to have 50% of all vehicles sold each year be zero-emission by 2030. According to an analysis from McKinsey &
Company, achieving this goal would put 48 million EVs, or 15% of all total vehicles, on the road in 2030. To facilitate this goal, the federal
government’s Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL), also referred to as the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), provides $7.5 billion in
funding for 500,000 public EV charging stations.
However, an additional half-million charging stations will likely not be enough. McKinsey analysts estimate that if the US wants to reach its goal, it
will likely need 1.2 million public and 28 million private EV charging stations.
That’s approximately 20 times more charging stations than are currently installed in the United States in 2023.
Always look on the bright side of life. This is job opportunities for your grandchildren! Job opportunities for electricians and engineers!
Woke!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Great Barrier Reef Defies Doomsday Predictions
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/great-barrier-reef-defie...
The headlines were dire: “Half of the Great Barrier Reef’s corals have been killed by climate change,” CBS News reported in October 2020.
Bleaching of the reef’s corals is “getting more widespread,” the New York Times reported earlier that year. A Vice headline in 2017 promoting
David Attenborough’s Blue Planet II documentary said, “the Great Barrier Reef will die this century,” while National Geographic predicted an
earlier demise for reefs around the globe: “Coral reefs could be gone in 30 years.”
It became almost common knowledge that the Great Barrier Reef was assuredly doomed, the victim of a warming climate, rising ocean temperatures, and
increasingly acidic water.
Then, in early August, the authoritative Australian Institute of Marine Science released a new report on the 1,400-mile natural wonder. Two-thirds of
the reef — its northern and central regions — are showing record levels of coral cover. The southern region is also showing high levels of coral
cover. The AIMS report was hardly a portrait of a dying ecosystem.
While the news may have been shocking to those who have been relying on the mainstream media for their information, it was no surprise to Peter Ridd,
a marine geophysicist in Australia who has been studying the Great Barrier Reef since the mid 1980s.
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In Search Of The Coming Ice Age ... With Leonard Nimoy (1978)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQRqr9_jw5I
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JZ- Calling attention to predictions that didn't unfold exactly as stated is the idiot's deflection response to discussing things that are happening,
factually, right now.
How many times are you going to post a link to that Leonard Nimoy video? It speaks to the paucity of available information to bolster your opinions
that you can't find anything new to try to debunk and trot out the same old thing endlessly.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | JZ- Calling attention to predictions that didn't unfold exactly as stated is the idiot's deflection response to discussing things that are happening,
factually, right now.
How many times are you going to post a link to that Leonard Nimoy video? It speaks to the paucity of available information to bolster your opinions
that you can't find anything new to try to debunk and trot out the same old thing endlessly.
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Listen to the video. Especially around the six minute mark. They are saying all the same things you are now, but in reverse.
He's got a guy on there who says it is his life's mission to study the climate. He says we have just ended a period of wariness and have started into
an Ice age.
You aren't changing global climate. Focus on more achievable things like improving air quality and other pollution, providing energy at a lower cost,
etc. EVs have a big role to play, just not the way you think.
Also push for the use of nuclear. Stop trying to scare ppl to win votes!
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