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surabi
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Yes, as I said, it's behavior, not race.
I have more than once been in a store lineup behind American tourists who speak to the store employee in English, as if they expect all Mexicans who
happen to work where there are tourists, to speak English. When the salesgirl smiles sweetly, but obviously doesn't understand what they are asking,
they say it again SLOWER and LOUDER, as if she is deaf or mentally defective. It never occurs to them to use a translation app on the phone they carry
everywhere in their hand when in a country whose official language isn't English.
One also cannot discount the quite understandable backlash to the current US administration characterizing non-white immigrants as rapists, murderers,
mental patients and terrorists "poisoning the blood of our country" and the brutal treatment and targetting of brown people by govt. law enforcement.
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ligui
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Well said surabi !
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Quote: Originally posted by Terry28  | | I actually agree with Goat,,,IF you are from california just try moving to Oregon and experience their attitude...... |
Oregon has recently had the honor of being the worst state in the US. People are fleeing mostly to the upper NW because of the worst State government
in the US. There is currently a big movement to unseat the present Governor and her wife who is also her advisor. Billions are missing from the State
finances with no accounting in sight.
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JZ
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We had a house in San Carlos, Sonora for about 10 years.
Most of my friends there were Mexicans. Zero cultural issues. You just have to treat people right.
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Lee
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When a car in Tecate gets pulled over, it's probably a white person.
During a demonstration in MX City, an activist throws a rock at a restaurant window, because they see a white person inside.
I'm writing about gentrification in Mainland MX and areas by gringoes and their lack of assimilation. Not friends of JZ in Sonora.
Anyone with solutions for homeless campers in Portland, the Bay Area, and LA, bring it on. Most gringoes whine and complain because they're as
clueless as the f'ing govt in these places.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
When a car in Tecate gets pulled over, it's probably a white person.
During a demonstration in MX City, an activist throws a rock at a restaurant window, because they see a white person inside.
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It seems a bit racist to think mexicans are not white people…
Mexico is a melting pot of european, native american, asian and african ancestry.
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Pronoun: the royal we
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I read one of the issues in Mexico City is the conversion of residential property in desirable areas into short-term rentals, essentially commercial
property, ala Airbnb. It's causing real estate prices to skyrocket as more and more relatively affluent Americans get into the game, buying and then
short-term renting houses/condos to American tourists.
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surabi
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The reason for that is not racism. Racism means one hates others of a certain race and considers them to be inferior. When Mexican cops pull over a
white person, it's because they think they will be able to shake them down for money, not because they hate white people.
And I can tell you that every time I make the 1 hr. drive to Puerto Vallarta and back, I always see cars pulled over by cops and the vast majority of
the drivers are Mexican.
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
The reason for that is not racism. Racism means one hates others of a certain race and considers them to be inferior. When Mexican cops pull over a
white person, it's because they think they will be able to shake them down for money, not because they hate white people.
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Partly true. Some cops are racist and hate gringoes and some are just scammers. Nothing personal.
Every time I drive through Tecate, I see a white person pulled over. Maybe they were tired and didn't know the speed limit.
Some of the activists in MX City definitely hate white gringoes. Generalization here as not all activists hate.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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The cops are "plateist"
I am pretty sure that the plates on the car are more of a deciding factor than who is driving it.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Some of the activists in MX City definitely hate white gringoes. Generalization here as not all activists hate. |
There are xenophobes and racists and a-holes of every nationality in every country. Moreso in some places than others.
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Fear not gringitos. I just witnessed a Guinness world record for the largest soccer class at the Zocalo and I'm happy to report there were no gringo
hating demonstrators to be seen. Just alot of happy Mexican families and tourists enjoying life. Ps. The plaza mayor museum is pretty cool!
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I have almost always chosen to cross north at the Tecate border station.
A little less than two weeks ago, I was the second car in line before the border guard with at most a five minute wait on a late Tuesday afternoon,
5:15pm to be exact.
Five minutes! It reminded me of decades ago when there was a single guard shack.
I am always more than careful to observe the posted speed limits in Tecate while every other car on the road passes me by.
I have never been pulled over in Tecate. Being the slowest might have something to do with that. The more others pass me by, the better for me.
This represents fifty plus years of avoiding TJ on the way home. That 60 mile drive has always been worth the wait at the border.
I know our Ca. or wherever license plates are an attraction to provide some additional income to those who are not paid what they should be paid for
the jobs they do.
Every stop sign in Tecate deserves a few extra seconds before moving forward in case the 'man' is watching.
It costs us so little time in the end game. This 'game' is kept in mind every time I drive as safely as possible through Tecate.
Have I been lucky not to be targeted over the decades? Could my driving habits have anything to do with never being pulled over in Tecate?
Don't make yourself a target has worked for me. So far. haha
A couple of years ago I mistakenly gave TJ a try when the road from highway 1 to Tecate was closed due to some fuel truck blowing up.
A TJ moto cop pulled me over for signaling a simple lane change. For the amount he demanded, I should have been escorted to the front of the line.
That was a painful $50 I paid. I should have gotten his badge number at the time.
Live and learn, what not to do! Never will TJ be my border crossing north again, unless I get a fast pass before then.
Tecate with a five minute wait to cross? Who can better that waiting time these days at any crossing?
Tuesday at 5:15pm is worth considering for next time if at all possible. I know my next crossing north will keep this in mind.
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Anyone with solutions for homeless campers in Portland, the Bay Area, and LA, bring it on. Most gringoes whine and complain because they're as
clueless as the f'ing govt in these places. |
Lee: Some time back I posted to this site of a local church organization in Eugene Oregon that has been slowly and effectively housing the homeless in
their area. After years of overcoming initial public opposition and proving the positive results of their efforts on the area, they are increasingly
expanding from that small start with growing support. It's small, it's simple and it works.
Here it s again: https://www.squareonevillages.org/villages/opportunity
Since then a similar but bit bigger privately donations funded system has taken root in Canada to house the thousands of Ex military homeless people
who happen to be 2(males) or 4(females) times as likely as anyone else to be homeless. Most of these would be veterans of Kosovo, Iraq or Afghanistan
and they more than deserve some consideration.
This is their site:
https://homesforheroesfoundation.ca/
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surabi
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I have seen another video from another location where this tiny house village concept was done. The residents were so grateful, kept their little
homes clean, planted flowers outside their door. It's hard to turn your life around and get off the street and apply for a job when you don't even
have a place to bathe and make yourself presentable, get off drugs and alcohol when you are surrounded by other addicts in a homeless encampment.
Being given an opportunity to feel yourself a worthwhile, respected, human being is all a lot of the homeless need to set themselves on a different
path.
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I compare this to the Ejido concept we saw in Mexico, but on a much more restricted and limited basis. But it takes reversing the thinking that the
poorest deserve to be poor, and only the wealthiest should receive special consideration. One of the many differences in conceptual thinking we
admired about Mexican people and Mexico.
There is no excuse in the wealthiest Country in the world that the poorest 20% would be taxed at 14% of their incomes while the wealthiest should pay
less than 4% of theirs. Washington finally broke the trend and decided the wealthiest should begin paying at least a small amount of their personal
income to provide some small relief from the poorest that they had supporting them. It's a beginning.
https://fortune.com/2026/03/15/washington-income-tax-bezos-s...
millionaires/
Almost immediately after the bill passed, billionaire Starbucks founder Howard Schultz announced he was swapping Seattle for Miami, where he
recently paid $44 million for a penthouse. Although he has not confirmed the passage of the bill is why he chose to leave, Schultz, who is worth $6.6
billion, wrote on LinkedIn he hoped Washington would “remain a place for business and entrepreneurship to thrive.”He also isn’t the first to
leave Washington. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos similarly moved to Miami in 2023, costing the state an estimated $954 million in tax revenue in 2024
alone. When Bezos sold 50 million Amazon shares that year from Florida, he saved an estimated $610 million in state taxes by no longer being a
Washington resident.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | I compare this to the Ejido concept we saw in Mexico, but on a much more restricted and limited basis. But it takes reversing the thinking that the
poorest deserve to be poor, and only the wealthiest should receive special consideration. One of the many differences in conceptual thinking we
admired about Mexican people and Mexico.
There is no excuse in the wealthiest Country in the world that the poorest 20% would be taxed at 14% of their incomes while the wealthiest should pay
less than 4% of theirs. Washington finally broke the trend and decided the wealthiest should begin paying at least a small amount of their personal
income to provide some small relief from the poorest that they had supporting them. It's a beginning.
https://fortune.com/2026/03/15/washington-income-tax-bezos-s...
millionaires/
Almost immediately after the bill passed, billionaire Starbucks founder Howard Schultz announced he was swapping Seattle for Miami, where he
recently paid $44 million for a penthouse. Although he has not confirmed the passage of the bill is why he chose to leave, Schultz, who is worth $6.6
billion, wrote on LinkedIn he hoped Washington would “remain a place for business and entrepreneurship to thrive.”He also isn’t the first to
leave Washington. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos similarly moved to Miami in 2023, costing the state an estimated $954 million in tax revenue in 2024
alone. When Bezos sold 50 million Amazon shares that year from Florida, he saved an estimated $610 million in state taxes by no longer being a
Washington resident.
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JD- socialism never works. Oh and your idea is based on a false pretense.
In 2022, the top 1% of earners paid 40.4% of federal income taxes.
The bottom 50% paid ONLY 3% of federal income taxes.
DOGE needs to be expanded to keep the politicians from stealing and wasting the money. FULL STOP, eh?
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
I wonder how friendly they would be now if they saw your ICE-cheering "Deport every damn 'illegal' " posts. |
A little more than a year ago I helped one of them get visas for his entire family of 5 to come to the US. I paid for them to get passports and other
stuff.
They understand the importance of doing things the right way.
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Having a progressive tax system is hardly Socialism Tioloco. But what do you call a regressive tax system such as Washington State has had for 93
years? We are talking State tax revenues here, not Federal tax revenues, you seem to be confusing the two and perhaps should take the time to read the
article quoted.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
I wonder how friendly they would be now if they saw your ICE-cheering "Deport every damn 'illegal' " posts. |
A little more than a year ago I helped one of them get visas for his entire family of 5 to come to the US. I paid for them to get passports and other
stuff.
They understand the importance of doing things the right way.
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Nice great white savior story. Has nothing to do with my comment or this thread topic.
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