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JZ
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Yawn.
True, climate changes. Also true, man can't stop climate change.
The Climate Crisis is just one big grift by politicians to get rich and control people. It's been that way for 60 years now. Don't be a fool and
fall for it. 
[Edited on 3-21-2026 by JZ]
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Cliffy
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If mankind was the cause of the recent glacier disappearance what, pray tell, caused the end of the last Ice Age 15,000 years ago when glaciers all
the way down to mid-America retreated north and disappeared? They were MASSIVE glaciers and glacial activity thousands of times larger than what we
have lost in the last 30 or 40 years. That takes a lot of HEAT AND NOBODY was here then. No people, no electricity, no cars and trucks, no trains, no
nothing but wilderness and a few Neanderthals.
How about a discussion on the tilt of the earth's axis and its affect on climate?
Didn't Al Gore say we would be dead by now if we didn't join his carbon offset scheme? And that was what? 30 years ago? He gave us 10 years IIRC
The climate has always changed for 5 billion years. Adapt or die off has been going on for as long.
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surabi
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I could have predicted that one of the resident science deniers would be along in short order with their idiotic "the climate has always been
changing" ignorance.
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Cliffy
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Are you denying that the glaciers disappeared without mankind's intervention?
Did the glaciers disappear or not?
Was man the cause for it?
Simple questions with simple answers.
Tell me how YOU account for the disappearance of the last Ice Age.
Could it have happened if the earth got colder then?
The fact remains that the climate has been changing since before the dinosaurs. BTW the climate was warmer than now and had more O2 in the atmosphere
than we have now in the days of the dinosaurs .
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surabi
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Asking the same questions endlessly, to which you have already been given science-based answers and explanations multiple times and choose to ignore,
makes it evident that your uninformed opinions and beliefs are what you are attached to, and have zero interest in learning anything. So your posts on
this subject are pointless.
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Cliffy
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You have NEVER answered the base question-
What caused the Ice Age glaciers to disappear BEFORE mankind
arrived in any numbers?
Its easy to spout platitudes of your belief and never answer the base question. Who's avoiding science now?
Or is it only "good" science when it supports your argument by taking it out of the larger context?
And I have never denied that man has an affect on the climate
The only argument is how much and what will its long term affect be
Which at this point is only guess work.
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surabi
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Your "base" question is imbecilic. Obviously glaciers melt because of higher temperatures, duh. Current climate change crisis has to do with the rate
of change and is directly and scientifically proven to be caused by human activity. But of course trying to explain this simple concept to you is like
talking to a wall.
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Tioloco
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Cliffy- Don't waste your time with a liberal when it comes to logic or common sense. Especially when it is a far left radical that can't see the whole
Climate scam is about money and power.
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