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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by JZ  | Bro, he backtracked majorly no matter how you try to spin it. Basically admitting that his cries of the world ending isn't going to happen. And he
says that we should stop focusing on short term temp changes (i.e. Goat's wisdom above) and reduction of emissions.
Gates rightfully said we should focus on reducing diseases and poverty world wide.
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No reason you cant focus on multiple things at once. Why focus on only reducing disease and poverty at the expense of anything else?
Btw, your marmalade emperor slashed all USA foreign aid for fighting disease and poverty, and actively works against anything and everything related
to climate science or alternative energy.
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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... and the sea level is still no higher than 90 years ago when the first photo of that El Coyote beach palm tree was taken!   
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AKgringo
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2026 could be the worst "El Nino" in 150 years!
According to a Co pilot search, the El Nino of 1877 was the worst climate disaster in recorded history;
https://www.bing.com/search?q=el+ni%c3%b1o+1877+facts&FO...
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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JZ
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So the climate/weather was worse 150 years ago?
Got it.
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El Niño Effects on Baja - Gemini AI:
An El Niño weather pattern has officially started.
According to recent updates from the NOAA Climate Prediction Center and the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), the tropical Pacific transitioned
out of its neutral phase into active El Niño conditions.
A strong El Niño significantly alters the weather, marine ecosystems, and coastal conditions of the Baja California Peninsula. It drives an
intensified subtropical jet stream directly across the region, leading to heightened tropical storm risks, heavier winter rains, and major marine
disruptions.
### 🌊 1. Intensified Hurricane Season
* More Active Cyclones: Warmer sea surface temperatures fuel a much more active Eastern Pacific hurricane season.
* Stronger Storms: The peninsula, particularly Baja California Sur, faces a higher risk of being struck by major hurricanes.
* Extended Window: Hurricanes are more likely to make landfall later into the autumn, sometimes extending beyond the traditional November end date.
### 🌧️ 2. Increased Winter Rainfall & Flooding
* Southward Shifted Jet Stream: During winter, the Pacific jet stream moves directly over the peninsula.
* Severe Torrential Rains: This path steers heavy frontal storms into both Baja California (Baja Norte) and Baja California Sur.
* Infrastructure Damage: Sudden, intense downpours routinely cause dangerous flash floods, washing out dirt roads, collapsing bridges, and flooding
vados (riverbed crossings).
* Desert Blooms: On a positive note, the rare abundance of water temporarily replenishes underground water tables and transforms the arid desert
landscape into a green, blooming ecosystem.
### 🌡️ 3. Warmer Temperatures and Milder Winds
* Muggy Baseline Warmth: Summers and autumns feature higher baseline warmth, significantly increased humidity, and uncomfortably warm night
temperatures.
* Disrupted Winds: The localized wind patterns essential for the region's tourism and water sports are altered. High-altitude cloud cover weakens the
pressure gradients that generate local sea breezes. Consequently, the famous northern winter winds (El Norte) become weaker and are often pushed
entirely to the southern half of the peninsula.
### 🐟 4. Marine Ecosystem Disruptions
* Declining Fisheries: Warmer surface waters suppress the nutrient-rich cold water upwelling along the Pacific coast. This sudden drop in plankton
collapses the local marine food web. Commercial and sport fishing catches drop dramatically as species either migrate north or dive into deeper,
cooler waters.
* Ecological Strain: Sustained marine heatwaves frequently lead to mass seabird die-offs, starving sea lion pups, and severe degradation of vital
coastal kelp forests.
* Toxic Algal Blooms: The warm conditions stimulate severe red tides (harmful algal blooms), which can temporarily poison local shellfish populations.
### 🏖️ 5. Coastal Erosion and Higher Sea Levels
* Thermal Expansion: As the ocean warms up, the water expands and elevates the physical sea level along the coast.
* Severe Beach Erosion: When this elevated sea level combines with winter storm surges and seasonal king tides, it triggers destructive coastal
erosion and floods low-lying seaside communities.
[Edited on 6-26-2026 by SFandH]
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JZ
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Lol at trying to use AI on a politically charged topic. You are smarter than that.
A little more than a year ago if you asked Gemini to state good things that Trump supports/does it said "I cannot answer Political questions"
<paraphrasing>.
If you asked it the same question about Kamala it would spit out a page worth of her virtues.
[Edited on 6-27-2026 by JZ]
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JZ
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Plus Baja survived this just fine 150 years ago.
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pauldavidmena
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climate.us (formerly climate.gov) contains historical data for several climate-related metrics. They leave the interpretation up to scientists,
and the policy-making up to politicians.
[Edited on 6-29-2026 by pauldavidmena]
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surabi
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Perhaps you should hop on a plane to Europe and tell them how climate change and record high temperatures that cause people to die are no big deal
because Baja survived just fine 150 years ago.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
Perhaps you should hop on a plane to Europe and tell them how climate change and record high temperatures that cause people to die are no big deal
because Baja survived just fine 150 years ago. |
Tell us how many died 150 years ago from weather events vs. today?
"Far fewer people die from weather-related disasters today than they did 150 years ago, even though the world's population is much larger. This is one
of the clearest long-term trends in disaster data.
Some of the main reasons are:
Better weather forecasting and early warning systems.
Stronger buildings and infrastructure.
Improved flood control and storm shelters.
Faster emergency response and evacuations.
Better healthcare and communications.
Greater food security, reducing deaths from drought-induced famines."
Europe needs to subsidize AC for people, and make cool spaces available to the at risk when the heat spikes. Just like Mamdani shouldn't have let
dozens of homeless freeze to death when he ignored the two week forecast of freezing temps or Karen Bass ignored the advance forecast of Santa Ana
winds during fire season before she decided to leave the country.
Giving governments trillions of dollars to make politicans rich and powerful isn't the answer. But you keep using your fake fear mongering over
random weather events.
This is what Gates is telling you knuckle heads to focus on. Governments cannot change climate.
[Edited on 6-28-2026 by JZ]
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mtgoat666
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That’s hot
We Need to Retrofit the Planet. The Heat Wave Proves It.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/01/opinion/heat-wave-europe-...
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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