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lencho
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Fat lady ain't sung yet.
Edit: The real question here-- more important than aura farming-- is who is this fat lady and why does she
sing?
[Edited on 10-10-2026 by lencho]
"I can normally tell how intelligent a man is, by how stupid he thinks I
am."
"...they were careful of their demeanor that they not be thought to have opinions on what they heard for like most men skilled at their work they
were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand."
Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses
"Be kind, be patient, help others." -- Isabel Allende
"My gas stove identifies as electric." Anonymous
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lencho
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Now what clearer evidence could be presented...
that standup paddleboards cause excessively high water levels? 
Signed, Dr. Science
"I can normally tell how intelligent a man is, by how stupid he thinks I
am."
"...they were careful of their demeanor that they not be thought to have opinions on what they heard for like most men skilled at their work they
were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand."
Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses
"Be kind, be patient, help others." -- Isabel Allende
"My gas stove identifies as electric." Anonymous
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AKgringo
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Well then, it's settled!
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  |
Now what clearer evidence could be presented...
that standup paddleboards cause excessively high water levels?
Signed, Dr. Science |
Not the climate issue....the beach! Clearly it has settled a foot and a half or more.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Tioloco
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The palm trees are doomed, ladies and gentlemen.
According to AI:
Yes, the ground where Flagstaff now sits was covered by oceans in deep geologic history, though the sea level itself didn't rise that high—instead,
the land was pushed up thousands of feet later on.
Why Flagstaff Has Marine Rocks
• Ancient Seafloors: Much of the bedrock underlying Flagstaff and the surrounding Colorado Plateau is made of sedimentary layers (like limestones
and sandstones) that formed at the bottom of shallow, warm tropical seas hundreds of millions of years ago (during the Paleozoic and Mesozoic eras).
• Tectonic Uplift: The global sea level has never actually been 7,000 feet higher than it is today. Instead, tectonic forces (the Laramide Orogeny
and the general uplift of the Colorado Plateau) lifted those ancient ocean-floor sediments straight up into the high-altitude mountain country you see
today.
• Elevation Context: Flagstaff sits at an official elevation of 6,909 feet (2,106 meters) above sea level, while the highest global sea levels in
Earth's deep history were only ever a couple of hundred meters higher or lower than modern levels, not thousands of feet higher.
Should I put my cabin up for sale? Al Gore's posse has me very worried....
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mtgoat666
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Kelvin wave in san diego raised sea level by 17 inches. Monthly king tides will be over the next few days….
Coastal Hazard Message
National Weather Service San Diego CA
1103 AM PDT Fri Oct 23 2026
CAZ043-552-251515-
/O.NEW.KSGX.CF.W.0002.261025T1200Z-261029T2000Z/
San Diego County Coastal Areas-Orange County Coastal Areas-
1103 AM PDT Fri Oct 23 2026
...COASTAL FLOOD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 5 AM SUNDAY TO 1 PM PDT
THURSDAY...
* WHAT...Significant coastal flooding expected.
* WHERE...San Diego County Coastal Areas and Orange County
Coastal Areas.
* WHEN...From 5 AM Sunday to 1 PM PDT Thursday during high tides.
* IMPACTS...Numerous roads may be closed. Low lying property
including homes, businesses, and some critical infrastructure
will be inundated. Some shoreline erosion will occur in the
morning hours.
* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Coastal residents in the warned area should be alert for rising water and take appropriate action to protect
life and property. High tides each day will occur in the
morning. Tides may be anywhere from 1 to 1.7 feet above
predicted.
[Edited on 10-24-2026 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Tioloco
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A bit more pertinent to talk about the effects in Tijuana/Ensenada que no?
Any damaged houses due to the high tides?
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JDCanuck
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La Paz residents have yet to report how bad their highest tide is getting soon. Seems everything has lined up to be the worst year in recorded history
this year. Worst high tides are still 4-5 days away. As of latest reports:
Key Details of La Paz Flooding & Highway Impacts
• Record Sea Levels: La Paz Bay has reached historic high-water marks (climbing over 9 centimeters above long-term baselines), making king tides and
seasonal surges much more prone to spilling over seawalls.
• Highway & Road Closures: Torrential rains and overflowing arroyos have forced the temporary closure of major regional arteries—including
sections of the Transpeninsular Highway between La Paz and Ciudad Constitución—where fast-moving water and deep mud made driving unsafe.
• Urban & Coastal Inundation: Low-lying downtown streets, the coastal boardwalk (Malecón), and coastal approaches toward areas like Cabo Pulmo
have experienced saltwater and flash-flood inundation, sometimes reaching up to 3 feet deep.
[Edited on 10-25-2026 by JDCanuck]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | La Paz residents have yet to report how bad their highest tide is getting soon. Seems everything has lined up to be the worst year in recorded history
this year. Worst high tides are still 4-5 days away. As of latest reports:
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Social media has lots of pics of flooding in BCS today and yesterday…
Anybody go get a pic of David’s palm tree?
Woke!
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“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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About 71% of the Earth's surface is covered by water.
Surface Coverage and Volume Breakdown
• Surface Area: Roughly 71% of Earth's surface is water (mostly oceans) and 29% is land.
• Total Volume: All water on, in, and above Earth equals about 1.386 billion cubic kilometers (332.5 million cubic miles), which makes up roughly
0.128% of the planet's total volume.
Saltwater vs. Freshwater Distribution
According to the U.S. Geological Survey:
• Saltwater (Oceans): 96.5% to 97.5% of all Earth's water is saline and held in the oceans.
• Freshwater: Only 2.5% to 3.5% of the total water on Earth is freshwater.
Breakdown of Freshwater
Of that small 2.5% freshwater supply:
• Glaciers and Ice Caps: 68.7% (locked in ice)
• Groundwater: 30.1% (underground aquifers)
• Surface Water (Lakes, Rivers, etc.): About 0.3% to 1.2% of freshwater (with lakes holding the vast majority and rivers a tiny fraction)
• Atmosphere: A tiny fraction exists as water vapor in clouds.
This will hold true 1,000 years from now as well. Pannickins will find a new crisis to make money and gain power.
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JDCanuck
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Interested in property on the Malecon in La Paz anyone?
https://gringogazette.com/la-paz-bay-sea-level-hits-33-year-...
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JDCanuck
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | About 71% of the Earth's surface is covered by water.
Surface Coverage and Volume Breakdown
• Surface Area: Roughly 71% of Earth's surface is water (mostly oceans) and 29% is land.
• Total Volume: All water on, in, and above Earth equals about 1.386 billion cubic kilometers (332.5 million cubic miles), which makes up roughly
0.128% of the planet's total volume.
Saltwater vs. Freshwater Distribution
According to the U.S. Geological Survey:
• Saltwater (Oceans): 96.5% to 97.5% of all Earth's water is saline and held in the oceans.
• Freshwater: Only 2.5% to 3.5% of the total water on Earth is freshwater.
Breakdown of Freshwater
Of that small 2.5% freshwater supply:
• Glaciers and Ice Caps: 68.7% (locked in ice)
• Groundwater: 30.1% (underground aquifers)
• Surface Water (Lakes, Rivers, etc.): About 0.3% to 1.2% of freshwater (with lakes holding the vast majority and rivers a tiny fraction)
• Atmosphere: A tiny fraction exists as water vapor in clouds.
This will hold true 1,000 years from now as well. Pannickins will find a new crisis to make money and gain power. |
If we ignore the primary product of burning hydrocarbons like Methane, that would be true. But then we have this as well:
Total Water Produced (Historical/Cumulative): Estimates suggest that roughly 540 gigatonnes (Gt) (or about 540,000 (0.54 billion)
cubic kilometers) of water have been produced globally from total historical fossil fuel combustion.
That would be enough to cover 540 million sq km to a depth of 1 meter. The contiguous US covers just over 8 million sq km.
I'm all for producing more atmospheric water as we will need it in the future.
The complete combustion of methane produces a 2:1 volume ratio of water vapor to carbon dioxide gas.
[Edited on 10-27-2026 by JDCanuck]
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Tioloco
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Don't forget that the sun will burn out eventually. We are merely visitors on an ever changing planet. Good times!
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JDCanuck
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The Scientists and Engineers have this worked out already so no need for us to replicate their calculations. Water vapour good, excess CO2 in
atmosphere not so good. Methane conversion either in clean combustion or fuel cells contributes to more atmospheric water vapour and replenishment of
water storage in reservoirs or aquifers, while CO2 conversion to useful products like Urea and Graphene and storage of excesses in underground sealed
caverns is already in development, mainly in Alberta and other forward looking areas like Norway and Sweden.
All it takes is a bit of effort and enough cash to continue the movement.
[Edited on 10-27-2026 by JDCanuck]
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Next time you drive by that water vapour spewing combined cycle natural gas plant in La Paz, imagine it as an Urea and Graphene byproduct plant as
well. La Paz can use more atmospheric water(once they finish building the reservoirs) and really should be adding the CO2 capture, use and storage in
the future like other locations are.
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mtgoat666
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In san diego tide records were shattered this week. In past week we saw 5 of 9 highest water levels ever recorded.
And the second oct rain storm is coming…
Who’ll stop the rain?
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Tioloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | In san diego tide records were shattered this week. In past week we saw 5 of 9 highest water levels ever recorded.
And the second oct rain storm is coming…
Who’ll stop the rain?
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What happened to all the dire "Big Earthquake" predictions? Rain is nothing
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | In san diego tide records were shattered this week. In past week we saw 5 of 9 highest water levels ever recorded.
And the second oct rain storm is coming…
Who’ll stop the rain?
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What happened to all the dire "Big Earthquake" predictions? Rain is nothing |
Doge-wonks laid off all the scientists, canceled all the science grant money. But for some reason doge-think is still supporting trump’s personal
vanity projects like the iran war, his arch drone port, his flying palace, the reflecting pool fiasco, his luxury helipad, and the saddam hussein
cheesecake factory oval office make-over.
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Woke!
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“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
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Tioloco
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Goat- yeah... 22 months ago the Democrats had the power for 4 YEARS
Slashing wasteful spending has changed the course of the earth? Ok little buddy. Next up, forced taxation to save us all. Got it.
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If you have a flight back from Asia right now you are a happy camper for El Nino.
Your plane can go 800 mph and you save a couple hours.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ujSA4q_Is5o?is=9Giu1WL_82xdHUL5
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Isn't that super-sonic?
Under the U.S. Standard Atmosphere model, the speed of sound at 40,000 feet is 659.8 mph
source: https://www.engineersedge.com/physics/speed_of_sound_13241.h...
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