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jrbaja
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Hey Skeet
I might be in that area myself around then. Any chance on gettin together? And, are you bringing your donations? I can get em from Loreto to C.Consti.
if that helps.
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Skeet/Loreto
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JR
I am going to try to bring One Large Suitcase, the others later, I will be at the Juniepero Hotel/ will also check in with Pam. thanks. Hope we can
meet up.Skeet
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flyfishinPam
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Bag Limits...
Juan posted the limits correctly a fefw posts up. dorado is limited to two per day per person, billfish one, roosterfish, tarpon and also two per day
and everything else is five. that's a total of five...if you catch one triggerfish, three yellowtail and two cabrilla you're done...the way the law
reads is that five fish no matter what is the daily limit...Two dorado count as five fish, one billfish counts as five...and so on...confusing but
that's where we're at.
Pam
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Juan posted the limits correctly a fefw posts up. dorado is limited to two per day per person, billfish one, roosterfish, tarpon and also two per day
and everything else is five. that's a total of five...if you catch one triggerfish, three yellowtail and two cabrilla you're done...the way the law
reads is that five fish no matter what is the daily limit...Two dorado count as five fish, one billfish counts as five...and so on...confusing but
that's where we're at.
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I beg to differ - it's five of any single species, not to exceed 10 total. The rest is correct.
http://www.bajadestinations.com/regs/regs.htm
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jrbaja
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How embarrasing
but keep using your figures Pam and that Sea will be back in shape in a jiffy.
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FrankO
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My license reads the way Roberto states.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Pam
Are those Limits for the Reserve only?
Skeet
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flyfishinPam
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I will re-read that...
...bag limit law as I was going on memory. The PESCA office opens on monday and I will get a copy and translate that portion. sorry for the
confusion, folks get more than five fish all the time but I thought that's what it said.
so shoot me! Just kiddin'
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Skeet/Loreto
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Pam
Thanks for your good Help!
There was conflict years before the "Reserve came into being and it will always be as that is "The Nature of the Beast"!
I was having a cup of Good coffee one morning on the porch at Rancho Sonrisa when a couple of mexicanos put a Net directly in front, a couple hours
later a pick up Arrived and as they loaded their Catch, a person with Authority came and took them and their fish "Downtown" so it works sometimes!
After the ban on Turtles most of the Fisherman that I know respected it except for once a year when they would have one Turtle, Beer and a Family
Gathering.
Lobster is there but you should not take more than you can eat in One Day on the Beach near where you Catch them!!
You are breaking the Law if you do so!
My concern about the Limits outside the park are directed toward the Local Fisherman who for years were allowed to take Fish, use it for Food, then
Filet and sell to their neighbors who had no connection to getting Fish.
Pam do you know of anyone who has "Tested the Shrimp population since the Shrimp Boats have been forbidden?"
Years past the Shrimping was one of the best South of San Felipie, so with no more Shrimpers the Bottom should be covered!
Was there a good Squid Season? That sometimes tells you what the Fishing will be like in the Months to come.
Is the Sierra Fishery better, are they coming back in Numbers? Are the Sardines coming in close to shore are staying out aways?
Are the Barracudda coming in close to shore?
All the above are signs of future and present Fishing in and around Loreto as you know>
Hope you business is doing good.
thanks Skeet/Loreto
"In God I Trust"
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bajalou
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Lobster - Shrimp
My understanding has been that fishing licenses do not allow non-nationals to take lobster or shrimp. Can you give me the straight stuff on this
please???
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Skeet/Loreto
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Juan
Juan , it is good to see you posting again. i was concerned that ole Age was getting to as it has to me recently!
As you can see i have been going throught a Change of Life at 73.Had a Knee operation that went Bad, had a 90% Blockage with a couple of Stents, PSA
level went out of Sight, but has been proved to be non-cancerous, Have gone back to the Lord after being a "Backslider for 56 years,went into the Goat
Business, have a couple of heifers, a beautifull White 'Cremalla" Quater horse mare that is now preganet for the first time, and still find time to
give the Liberals hell for being such Weak-minded and unmoralistic, Doing what they feel good types, that Quote other people instead of using their
own experiences in Life such as you and I have had in our many years of dealing with people and Problems.
You are a very Luckey person as I to still be sitting on the Beach, watching your Son furnish you with Fish and Clams, and watching those Great
Submarines go out to Protect us from Evils around the World.
I miss seeing and talking with you! someday We may be by to enjoy you Hospitility.
Skeet/Loreto
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bajalera
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So, Skeeter, you really consider me weak-minded and unmoralistic?
Lera
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Skeet/Loreto
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No Lera!
Lera, I think you are a Good Person that i would like to meet and have a cup of Coffee at the Side Walk Cafe at the La Pearla!
You are older than I ,so out of Respect i will will pay for the meal and not try to confince you of any thing about Politics, Religion, or Sex.
I am sure that we could get to know each other and have respect for each other as we have seen many things in our life, even through our take on the
things that happened in our life may be different~!
At this point in life , we only know each other from'Words", and as you are aware Actions change things, body lanuage changes, No I do not think you
are as I have posted, that was a Generalization, which caused me to be Banned from a Board.
So , why do we not wait and by chance meet, then Judge each other "Eyeball to Eyeball, we might even find some common Ground!!
"It Don't make no Nevermind"
Skeet/Loreto
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flyfishinPam
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Bag Limits In Mexican Waters
...sorry I'm a day late but I've been slammed with business lately. I have in my hands the copy from the PESCA of the Mexican bag limits and I have
to admit that I am being re-educated... here's how it reads....
La Practica de la pesca deportivo-recreativa, queda sujeta a los siguentes limites maximos de captura
(the practice of recreative sport fishing is subject to the following maximum limits of capture):
1. diez ejemplares diarios por pescador, con siguiente composicion por especie:
(ten examples daily per fisherman, of the following species):
-no mas de cinco ejamplares de una misma especie
(no more than five examples of each specie)
-cuando se trate de marlin, pez vela, pez espada, y tiburon, el limite maximo sera de un solo ejemplar de cualquier de estas especies
(when refering to marlin, sailfish, swordfish and shark, the maximum limit will be one of any of these species)
-en el caso de sabalo, dorado, o pez gallo, el limite maximo sera dos ejemplares de cualquiera de estas especies
(in the case of tarpon, dorado, or roosterfish, the maximum limit will be two of any of these species)
-tratandose de especies de agua dulce, el limite maximo permisible sera de cinco ejemplares
(in reference to freshwater species the maximum permisible limit is five)
2. en actividades de pesca deportivo-recreativo con embarcacion, cuyos viajes tengan una duracion de mas de tres dias de pesca, el numero maximo
acumulable de ejemplares que podran capturarse por pescador deportivo sera el equivalente de pesca conforme a las quotas establecidas en el parrafo
anterior
(in activities of recreative sport fishing from a boat, in which the duration is more than three days, the maximum accumulation of species that can be
captured will be the equivalent to three days bag limits as established in section I above)
3. La pesca subaquatica tendra como limite maximo de captura cinco ejamplares de cualquier especie de peces de agua marinas o agua dulce por pescador
por dia
(for underwater fishing the limit of capture is five examples of whatever specie of saltwater or freshwarer fish per day)
then there's a bunch of stuff about folks like us who provide service to tourism and what we have to do in order to conform to their laws....
Here's some interseting stuff:
Prohibiciones:
a).- retener especies o numero de especies no autorizadas
(retaining non authorized species or too many authorized species-over limit)
b).- capturar crustaceos, moluscos, mamiferos aquaticos, reptlies o anfibios
(capture of crustacens, molluscs, marine mammals, reptiles or anfibians)
c).- el use de redes de arrastre en bahias y esteros y en aguas en donde existan especies sedentarias, excepto en casos donde la SEMANARP lo autorice
expresemente
(the use of gill nets in bays and esteros and in waters where there exist sedentary species, except in cases where SEMANARP gives express permission
d).- el uso de iluminacion artificial para atraer masivimente a los peces
(the use of artificial light to attract massive amounts of fish)
e).- la practica de "cebar" sonas de pesca sin autorizaction expresa de la secretaria de medio ambiente, recursos naturales y pesca
(the practice of trapping fishing zones withough the express authorization of the SEMARNAP
f).- practicar la pesca deportivo-recreativa en zonas de repoblamiento y en zonas prohibidas dentro de las areas naturales protegidas, cuando
represente riesgo para las especies declaradas bajo proteccion o en veda o efecturar la actividad a menos de 250 metros de las embarcaciones que esten
dedicadas a la pesca comercial, de artes de pesca fijas o flotantes y a menos de 250 metros de la orilla de playas frequentadas por banistas
(to practice recreative sport fishing in zones of repopulation and in prohibited zones inside natural protected areas, when it represents risk for
species that are under protection or endangered or to practice sportfihising less than 250 meters from commercial fishing boats, or from fixed
equipment or floats used for commercial fishing, or 250 meters from beaches frequented by swimmers..
g).- utilizar "robador", "grampin", o anzuelo de multiples muertes
(to use a ...I dunno what a robador or a grampin is...sorry!...)
h).- filetar a bordo de la embarcacion los organismos capturados
(to fillet aboard a boat the catch)
i).- no anclar o fijar la embarcacion a menos de 15 metros de la linea permetral de los arrefices coralinos
(do not anchor of fix the boat less than 15 meters from the perimeter of coral reefs)
Hope this clears stuff up amongst us!
Pam Bolles
The Baja Big Fish Company
Loreto
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jrbaja
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Thanks Pam
Not allowed to filete the fish onboard???
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No filleting on board so species can be determined.
No Bad Days
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bajalou
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And I think
b).- capturar crustaceos, moluscos, mamiferos aquaticos, reptlies o anfibios
(capture of crustacens, molluscs, marine mammals, reptiles or anfibians)
is the one prohibiting taking of lobster and shrimp. ??
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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whodat54321
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250 meters out? no surf fishing either? or do I just need to find an isolated strech? I thought about taking a tin boat out on the Tijuana flats
after moving there.
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jrbaja
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Yep
I thought you just had to leave some skin on to determine species.
Very informative post.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Pam
Thanks for the help:
Do they still allow you to fish the First Day at 6;00 Am then get your License after you come in from the days of Fishing?
Skeet
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