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bajalera
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We've always felt comfortable south of San Quintin, but now the unsafe zone has been extended south to Rosario? That's sure grounds for some serious
thought.
Serge Dedina's views, incidentally, shouldn't be brushed off as those of some clueless Surfer Dude. His book on the whale problem is proof that he's
paid his Baja dues.
[Edited on 11-27-2008 by bajalera]
[Edited on 11-27-2008 by bajalera]
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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jodiego
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
All the world's surfers could boycott Baja and the economy would lose 5 dollars.
Maybe.  |
Now Dave, when I travel south to catch some waves, I buy lots of gas, pay the tolls, buy lots of beer($100+), food and supplies, stay at a hotel or
two and eat at several restaurants. This doesn't include periodically paying for camping and dropping a few bucks at the border. Now I'm no
mathematican, but that's got to be more tha $5.
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Dave
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While I'll give you style points for being 'no mathematician'...
| Quote: | Originally posted by jodiego
Now Dave, when I travel south to catch some waves, I buy lots of gas, pay the tolls, buy lots of beer($100+), food and supplies, stay at a hotel or
two and eat at several restaurants. This doesn't include periodically paying for camping and dropping a few bucks at the border. Now I'm no
mathematican, but that's got to be more tha $5. |
You obviously have a job. I also see that you can put a sentence together.
A wannabe. You're giving surfers a bad name.
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Eugenio
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I'll let Dave summarize the following - oh - and Dave - please include an introduction to String Theory for us so we can kind of put things in to
perspective.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/scie...
A wiki bio of the guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Garrett_Lisi
sheesh - a guy can't post a simple question without - oh forget it....
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BajaGringo
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The exception that proves the rule???
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Dave
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Summary
There is always the exception to the rule. Surfers are for the most part, on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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Eugenio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
[There is always the exception to the rule. Surfers are for the most part, on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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Oh.
OK Dave.
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1000lbBlue
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So the Jury is out...
Stay home right? Not in my lifetime. Life is to short to miss out on opportunities such as Baja. Just got confirmation from the convoy that it is on
and we are def headed south of what are considered the badlands, now stretching to El Rosario. Que lastima... Might stop there anyway and stay the
night to be able to get through Catavina with ample time for admiration.
Too bad surfers get bad raps as being idiotic and inarticulate but the fact is the one that really play the persona usually cant surf anyways. Life as
an image not as a lifestyle. Surfing is a hobby to most and not what we breath, eat, and sleep although the intense obsession can seem incredibly
strange to some. To some surfing is an understanding of forces and amazement of energy while others seem to hide in the click of hop-headed
bro-mentallity clicks of high school.
On a side note to the begging of the thread, "are 1$ fish tacos really worth it?" Damn straight those delicious fish tacos are worth it! I miss them
with great affinity. Peace, Love and Fish Tacos, de verdad?
And I would for surely rather die in Baja or trying to get to Baja rather than some over congested ten lane cement roller coaster of madness.
You are only as safe as you make yourself supongo...
As you were
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socalrat
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We are leaving next Thursday for our third camping trip to Baja in two years. Would have been more trips, including this past four day weekend, but
the news about the area between Ensenada and Tijuana managed to scare us off. Even last Thanksgiving at Baja Seasons, there were some obvious thugs
hanging out with some of the guys working at the hotel/RV park.
But, we are going down to Los Barrilles. Driving only while the sun is up. planning to stay at places like Ignacio Springs B&B. And I'm
hopeful there won't be anything to be worried about, once we get past El Rosario - maybe four hours south of Ensenada?
Really loved San Felipe. A little worried about taking the wife into Baja with all the narco crime. But I'm pretty comfortable with the idea of
daytime travel, on the main highway should keep us safe.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it......
gb3
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Ken Cooke
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I met up with a corrupt cop in San Quintin on Friday morning. When he saw me traveling with the Baja Grande group, he decided to wave me past his
checkpoint rather than search my vehicle.
In December '07, some corrupt cops in Mexicali wanted to haul me off to jail for towing another vehicle with only a tow strap. I was told I would
leave my $40,000.00 Rubicon on the street and come back to it later. I protested and bribed the cops instead.
The reality for me is that I won't venture into the backcountry without at least 1 other traveler, because these police see it as an opportunity,
rather than simply doing their job. Its better to be safe than sorry, I guess. 
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fishbuck
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I was just there last weekend. I do all the dumb stuff your not suppose to do. Haven't got killed yet. Been scared a few times and had some of the
best times of my life by taking a little risk.
But I recommend staying home on the couch if you really want to be safe.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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BajaGringo
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Good to see you post fishbuck - hadn't seen you in awhile...
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Good to see you post fishbuck - hadn't seen you in awhile... |
Ya, I've been getting run through the wringer but my TJ girlfriend. But I think it's over. It's all part of the process I guess.
A little R&R and I'll be ready to try again with a new one. Maybe I'm a little smarter now.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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ArvadaGeorge
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I didn’t hear of any incidents during the Baja 1000; which was good news.
A lot less that last year. There was a shooting during the pre running; but that’s about all I heard about.
Did I miss anything?
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalera
We've always felt comfortable south of San Quintin, but now the unsafe zone has been extended south to Rosario? That's sure grounds for some serious
thought.
I've considered the El Rosario area dangerous for years. There were 2 fisherman beat to death in their sleeping bags on the beach just north of there
years back. A handicaped gringo was car jacked on the grade down to El Rosario and they even stole his wheelchair. Years ago I was given some serious
bad vibs from the locals there, when I was towing my boat to B of LA. |
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BajaGringo
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I pass through El Rosario every week and always find it to be a very friendly town. Not sure why you're getting the negative vibes from folks...
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David K
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I bet the same things happen in L.A. almost every day.... Do Americans avoid it or the rest of California because of what happens in our cities, here?
Perhaps the major difference is knowing something will be done to the criminals up here and that the honest people can have guns for protection.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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When I go to visit my Mama at Mama Espinoza's I sleep at their motel Las Cabañas and always rent the same room which is on the first floor. I stay at
least 10 days when I go visit. I will always leave a window open for ventilation during the day while away and at night while I sleep. I have never
had a problem. In addition I have been out alone at night in unfamiliar places in and around El Rosario and never been bothered.
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1000lbBlue
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And it goes...
http://www.wildcoast.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&a...
I found this article that furthers the first link. This is from the actual website. I was also wondering about this...
"To avoid driving deep into Baja, Wildcoast employees have sometimes traveled on small propeller aircraft, with flight time donated by supporters.
That helps to avoid nocturnal carjackings. But last spring, Mr. Dedina said, a small plane that a Wil"dcoast board member had rented was stolen from a
remote beach in Baja."
I remember reading about that or a similar scenario. Hmmmm. Anyways I cannot wait to have a meal in El Rosario again...
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Welcome back Fishbuck. I have been saving your Avatar.
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