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Fred-o
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Trip report to view Punta Brava: I live near Dennis, and I took a trip up there two weeks ago. When I say "UP" I mean to the top of the mountain
overlooking the proposed project.
The entry fee is 30 pesos collected by the Ejido I asume. Again, take the Bufadora road and exit at "Casablanca", ironically, a bright orange building
on your right. About a mile past the Lobera exit sign.
Be sure to have 4 Wheel drive and pretty high clearance. I used my Jeep Grand Cherokee.
When you get to the top, it's a super 360 view, and you can look down on the "project". The "de-sal" plant looks quite small, and not in use.
Obviously not the capacity needed for a project this size. Especially a golf course, and 100 family homes/condos.
The huge antennas and other views (Todos Santos Islands) make this an exciting, quick, field trip. Go on a nice day and enjoy. You can even take the
"Before" picture if you wish.
Personal opinion: I don't think they are going to make it fly. Just my 2 centavos.
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DENNIS
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Thanks Fred....Hope you're right about that.
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tripledigitken
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So do I!
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Bronco
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Excellent investigative work-Fredo
All the BS reports, speculative and hypothetical theory’s cannot trump (hate that word) your empirical observation.
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Hook
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Ought to be a mite nippy up there about 8 months out of the year, no?
Maybe they are going for the Scotland feel..........
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Ought to be a mite nippy up there about 8 months out of the year, no?
Maybe they are going for the Scotland feel.......... |
I believe they're modeling the project after Pebble Beach. They're studies have mentioned the similarity in climate and the fact that it doesn't
hinder desirability on the golf course or inside of three million dollar condos.
I'll never even know what they're talking about.
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bajabum
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I was out fishing along the coast out to the point last weekend. They have all the greens, cart paths and Tees numbered and marked with different
color poles and a very steep probably unusable boat ramp built. Im guessing that is as far as they will get on this project and years from now people
will be asking what are all those rusty colored poles for! They are just testing the waters at this point looking for foolish investors, there is no
serious money behind this. The Escalara has a better chance of being finished than this golf course.
Work is just something I do to keep me buzy between baja trips!
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabum
I was out fishing along the coast out to the point last weekend. They have all the greens, cart paths and Tees numbered and marked with different
color poles and a very steep probably unusable boat ramp built. Im guessing that is as far as they will get on this project and years from now people
will be asking what are all those rusty colored poles for! They are just testing the waters at this point looking for foolish investors, there is no
serious money behind this. The Escalara has a better chance of being finished than this golf course. |
Here are the "poles":
(If you copy and paste either of these photos you can see them in larger size/greater detail)
Here is the boat ramp and the desal plant up above it:
[Edited on 6-4-2009 by BajaGringo]
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DENNIS
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Thanks, Ron....I haven't seen the ramp till your pictures...only heard about it. It looks like a ride at Magic Mountain. Good luck with that.
I said in an earlier post that I wasn't sure the development to this point was done by the Woods group and given the hype in the news today of
unlimited funds and expertise, along with the failed attempt at the ramp, I'm sure it wasn't. This project has had a quiet aspect to it from day one
but, I think we're seeing evidence of different planners, different projects.
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DanO
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That boat ramp would be awesome on one of those plastic snow saucers. Maybe grease the bottom up a little bit, and then let 'er rip.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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bajamigo
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A friend of mine who does a lot of fishing around the point said this about the boat ramp:
The ramp is very, very steep, so I think a 4-wheel drive might be a must. Also, it is not completely protected from the surf or surge of the ocean.
Some days it is fine, other days it could be very dangerous (as are most of the "ramps" down here). I am curious if it will be open to the public or
just members of the Punta Brava group. My guess is that is will be private. There is no dock or pier, so after launching a boat it will take 2-3
people to hold a boat while another person takes the towing vehicle back up the ramp and walks back down, which will take at least 5-10 minutes.
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fernando
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from what i know that boat ramp is older than the punta Brava project
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BajaGringo
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The boat ramp pictured along with the desalination plant are scheduled to be removed if the project goes forward. They were both built by the previous
property owner who had his own plans for developing the property. Neither one fits into the plans of the current development either for size /
location I guess.
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wilderone
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I am totally unimpressed with these residences. A residence like this would only cost about $300,000 to build in the US. And is that a swimming pool
set in a bridge-like thing between two rock pillars? They're not going to create the golf course first, without substantial residence sales. I
dunno. How big of an ego does it take to make one separate himself from this kind of money for a "private club" and a possible, slim chance of a
glimpse of Tiger Wood? Cuz that's all that's offered that you can't get from hundreds of other private golf resorts around the world that cost a lot
less and offer a lot more. Model doesn't show a marina, boat ramp, beach. Hardly any resale value until it's totally built out and that may be
never. And the surrounding community has even less appeal. Gotta be a real Tiger Woods groupie for this.
http://www.archpaper.com/e-board_rev.asp?News_ID=3326
Would make a nice campground with a panga fishing concession. Put in a nice swimming pool, some solar power, a little fish taco restaurant.
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BajaGringo
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No argument from me based on logic wilderone. It's just that the very elite seem to be totally enchanted with Tiger and why so many of them fork up
the equivalent value of several Nomads homes just to be able to play a single round of golf with him in a charity / pro-am event. He has an appeal on
such a high level that is hard for us working stiffs to be able to comprehend, and on which the developers are betting. I read somewhere that the deep
pockets on this would only invest if Tiger remained onboard. Apparently most of his payout on this will come off the backend, when the project is
built out. It wasn't structured like Trumps deal where he got almost all of the cash up front.
Who knows? Time will tell. At least I got to hit a couple of golf balls from the dirt to what will/would be the 17th green...
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