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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Technically speaking, in the "Proud to be Ex-Military" I would exclude Oswald from the "Honors" competition on two counts:
1. He was not involved in any Wartime activities so scores a Zero in the "served my country in battle" category.
2. As a soldier (Marine in his case), he was an HFO even before leaving for Russian studies.
His marksmanship practice did end up placing him in a special category held by only a few others, BUT his target choice does allow for a little leeway
in historical judgment. I have no doubt that there have been other ex-military who had a greater negative impact on Historical events.
We can't include Benedict Arnold, of course, because he was "Current" military. That would also disqualify Hasan.
I suppose you "could" include Robert E. Lee and others along with him who were Ex (U.S.) Military. The judging panel would have to determine
eligibility.
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I humblingly bow before your superior knowledge and reasoning.
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Look, unions can be good and they can be bad due to excesses. Pure Capitalism can be good and can be bad due to excesses.
Definitely, definitely any organization that gets powerful can abuse it whether it's big business or big unions. We all know of plenty of examples
and plenty of examples are recent examples on both sides of the issue.
The trap that simplistic all or nothing thinking will mislead you to is to take a side that says all and any unionism is BAD (or only GOOD for that
matter) just like thinking that all and any capitalism is BAD (or only GOOD for that matter).
Come on, there a bunch of really bright people in this forum, but why is it that even knowledgeable and educated people can be so expert on some
things while at the same time be absolutely crazy and/or fanatically one-sided about other things?
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Barry A.
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Well said, Mitchman.
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Marc
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
No Sea Stories Tripper Dummy.
But I shall never forget the Beautiful nite on Yokohoma Harbor and the music coming over was "Some Echanted Everning. |
Remember the sea store and $1.00 for a carton of Camels? No wonder we all smoked then.
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Here is a link to a good video that illustrates the future of unions in the US and is the wave of the future for manufacturing in the US. Probably a
better future for Mexico and Baja though.
http://apps.detnews.com/apps/multimedia/player/index.php?id=...
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
Look, unions can be good and they can be bad due to excesses. Pure Capitalism can be good and can be bad due to excesses.
Definitely, definitely any organization that gets powerful can abuse it whether it's big business or big unions. We all know of plenty of examples
and plenty of examples are recent examples on both sides of the issue.
The trap that simplistic all or nothing thinking will mislead you to is to take a side that says all and any unionism is BAD (or only GOOD for that
matter) just like thinking that all and any capitalism is BAD (or only GOOD for that matter).
Come on, there a bunch of really bright people in this forum, but why is it that even knowledgeable and educated people can be so expert on some
things while at the same time be absolutely crazy and/or fanatically one-sided about other things? |
Well said, Mitchman. I'd "fan" you if we were on the Huffington Post.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Keep the Unions out of Baja!!
Please let us all fight the organizing of any Union in Baja.
Skeet |
Yes, Yes, we should all get together, make protest signs, create some chants and march in mass through the towns, cities and countryside. Yes
indeed, we should all become very politically active in Baja---it is our job.  
Skeet, you go first!
Wait a minute, wasn't it you who said we should all just leave all the culture alone and accept everything as a part of the culture, including
corruption? |
I don't know, DianaT: I suspect that Skeet would deem the activities you suggest to be the work of Commies, Socialists or even worse: DEMOCRATS!
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Bajahoood"
You are so right in that the Unions did so good for getting the wages of a Autoworker to $70 per hour so that they could buy those
430, ooo dollar cars .end their Kids to good Colleges.
What Happened?
Teachers Union took over the Schools and ruined a lot of Kids.
No respect
No Disipline
No Honor... |
And no PADDLES, damn it! 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Howard
I have no intention of debating you because as Willie Shakespeare said,
"I would you challenge to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed!"
Hope you feel better |
Right on, Howard! 
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
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my mother was a coal miners daughter,, |
But can you sing? |
LOL
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The only thing worse than Unions is bad management. Unions were the answer to terrible working conditions. They've served their purpose. Now they are
a burden.
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I have a sister who is listed in Who's Who In Amercan Students. I's a very prestigous acknowledgment. |
It must be different, then, from the other Who's Who publications. I am listed in a few of them, and they seem pretty bogus, to me.
[Edited on 7-18-2010 by MsTerieus]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
It must be different, then, from the other Who's Who publications. I am listed in a few of them, and they seem pretty bogus, to me.
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You must be right. Who better to make that evaluation.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
The only thing worse than Unions is bad management. Unions were the answer to terrible working conditions. They've served their purpose. Now they are
a burden. |
I think Mitchman alluded to this, above: When unions became powerful and abused their power, they stopped serving a good purpose. I'd add that when
ANY entity -- whether corporate or individual -- can be good or bad, and power plus greed is what makes most of the bad ones bad. Power corrupts.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
It must be different, then, from the other Who's Who publications. I am listed in a few of them, and they seem pretty bogus, to me.
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You must be right. Who better to make that evaluation. |
That wasn't called for, Dennis.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
Power corrupts. |
Nonsense. Some people can be corrupted by power, but power in the right hands is a gift.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
That wasn't called for, Dennis. |
So what? Very little that I say or do here is called for.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
Power corrupts. |
Nonsense. Some people can be corrupted by power, but power in the right hands is a gift. |
I concede -- it's possible. But that doesn't seem to be the case with respect to corporations or politicians....
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | | So what? Very little that I say or do here is called for. |
Now, you see, Dennis, that's what I'm talking about, right there. You seem to know what you do isn't right, yet you go on doing it.
You are obviously a smart man, you write well and you have some great things to contribute to this board.
Why do you bring all of that down with this other character that shows up so often?
Just wondering
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
Just wondering |
Ya know....I don't need your evaluations.
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