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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 09:34 AM


Well, whatever you want to call it, it's totally not cool to use someones service without permission. And then brag about it? Very lame people.



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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 10:05 AM
Legally Speaking


Especially in Mexico, is Meaningless. There is no recourse in that direction, anyway.

Practically speaking, THEFT and INJURY are what the VICTIM decides they are framed by his or her inclination and ability to rectify said Injury.

My comment, Having "rectified" many such injuries in the (sometimes near) past, would be "Deal with it or Let it go".

ONLY the victim can be the judge of what action is necessary, guided by the likelihood of discovery and retribution.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 10:34 AM


One could look at them as having provided you with a free (although unsolicited) assessment of your computer security--which you were obviously in need of.
Don't know how much this unwanted service cost you--your only mention along those lines is that such services are "valuable" where you are at, which makes it sound like you would have sold them the service if you could have.

On the bright side, they gave you a quick evaluation and pointed out your weaknesses before leaving and you were able to resolve the problem promptly. The only thing laking was a written report.

One thing they obviously have underestimated is the tightness of the Baja Community--whether it be by air, land, or sea--but my guess is that they are about to learn about it.

Anyone get the name of the third boat yet?:lol:
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 11:29 AM


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One thing they obviously have underestimated is the tightness of the Baja Community--whether it be by air, land, or sea--but my guess is that they are about to learn about it.

Anyone get the name of the third boat yet?:lol:


cruisers love to blog about their exploits. they have their own forums where they act similar to nomads (drunken blogging, posting/answering the same questions over and over, etc.).
find out where they post, and flame them, out them, expose their outlaw ways!
perhaps someone can hack into their laptops and monkey around; eye for an eye, ya know?
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 12:26 PM
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Overall, the "Cruising" community who make the seasonal trek to Baja are some of the most Untrustworthy people around.

Back in the days when I kept a Sailboat in San Diego Bay, for years on a mooring and later in a slip, I was warned (along with others) by the Port District that the most dangerous period for theft from vessels was that time when the Cruisers would gather in the Bay before making the November sail South. This was brought home to me when I was staying on one of the Port District Laurel Street Transient Med-Moors between the time my Coronado Mooring expired and my Laurel Street Mooring became available.

The boat next to me lost a LOT of gear they'd left on deck one night. Luckily, the only thing I had on deck (and lost) was line. Reporting the crime, we were told that it was all probably on its way to Baja.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 12:42 PM


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Originally posted by mtgoat666
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Originally posted by Bajatripper
One thing they obviously have underestimated is the tightness of the Baja Community--whether it be by air, land, or sea--but my guess is that they are about to learn about it.

Anyone get the name of the third boat yet?:lol:


cruisers love to blog about their exploits. they have their own forums where they act similar to nomads (drunken blogging, posting/answering the same questions over and over, etc.).
find out where they post, and flame them, out them, expose their outlaw ways!
perhaps someone can hack into their laptops and monkey around; eye for an eye, ya know?


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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 12:52 PM


I agree that they underestimated the power of the internet community in Baja ... they shoulda coulda mighta asked permission, it's the right thing to do.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 01:02 PM


Not all gringo's in baja are good, hopefully these people aren't into identity theft to pay for their vacation! keep a close eye on all account and track your credit!

We have been/were dealing with a gringo career criminal out on the eastcape. A 30ish surfer type with lots of tatoos and a shaved head...who is also an obvious tweaker. he was hanging w/ a mexican girl and a mexican guy...also tweakers.

He is now visiting the Mexico State federal "hotel" for bad guys....ie the mexican jail, after being picked up with his crew in a stolen car full of stolen possessions.

Hopefully mexico will deport his burro as soon as he gets out...if he makes it out!
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 03:48 PM


I have been hacked twice. Both time sailors were anchored near by. Also they some how accessed the security and disabled it. I was gone but leave the system up 24/7 and each time the FAP reinitialized they would get back on and use the available FAP. I now have some one that can check it and reset the security. I consider it theft and with intent to cause you financial harm. They think they're clever but as with any hacker they are criminals. Those that say "lighten up" just haven't been through it. I have a lot of folks using my system, with permission, and they try to consider the rest of us and tread lightly.



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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 05:31 PM


Right now as I type the 3 sailboats are anchored off camp gecko. Way too close. I think I heard on the radio that they are getting Abrahams wifi. Not mine.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 05:42 PM


Anyway a little virus could be sent their way???

Just saying...




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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 05:48 PM


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Right now as I type the 3 sailboats are anchored off camp gecko. Way too close. I think I heard on the radio that they are getting Abrahams wifi. Not mine.
Larry


sounds like the neighborhood needs to defend themselves from pirates that apparently plunder and pillage every community they visit.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 05:59 PM


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Right now as I type the 3 sailboats are anchored off camp gecko. Way too close. I think I heard on the radio that they are getting Abrahams wifi. Not mine.
Larry


Larry,

Isn't Abram there right now? Maybe he can be forewarned to shut his system down.

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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 06:38 PM
MAC Filtering ?


Worth a try ?
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 07:23 PM


Any time that someone takes steps to get around encryption to access someones network they are committing both theft and trespassing and should not be surprised when some equal or greater inconvenience befalls them.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 07:34 PM


There is a potentially bigger problem here. How many of you use the same credentials for different purposes. In today's world, we have passwords for many internet/networking/computer resources. It's impossible to have different credentials for each one, so we start to use the same one over and over so we can use our computers with minimal fuss.

This applies to passwords on routers - so once you are on a router, that password could possibly be used to access computers on that network, and cause WAY more trouble than just using an internet connection. Anyone who has no problem doing number one is pretty likely to do #2 as well.

Maybe a little one-on-one chat with these folks might be appropriate? Increased security on internet routers in the Baja desert. If that ain't an alarm that the old days are gone, I don't know what is.

Just a thought.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 07:46 PM
Taking a Pass


Well, ALL of the Routers I have (and Had) use 64 or 128-bit "Hex" Passwords which I wouldn't use in other applications. Especially since EVERYONE accessing that Router would use the SAME one.

We're not talking about the password the "Admin" uses for setup.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 09:19 PM


you're right, but the password does not have to be entered in hex. a password can be used instead. e.g. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1344. FWIW.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 09:39 PM
OK Whatever


Yes, I Know, you "CAN" use ASCII for the Pass Key. All of the Routers I've setup (D-Link, Netgear, Linksys, Parker) use HEX for Default Key generation, but you could do otherwise on any of them. I've never done so and wouldn't, but it doesn't change the essence of what I noted in terms of shared usage and, therefore, being something you wouldn't want to use for other purposes.

So, the fact is that the only real problem with unauthorized access is someone using up your Bandwidth Quota or slowing your own usage.
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[*] posted on 4-7-2011 at 09:49 PM


And the fact is that you are right, of course. I am stunned and castigated.
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