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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Dealers come out to the coast in cars and carry the drugs on them or in a womans purse in case of a car search which is why the military set up
surprise roving checkpoints around here and now search purses and clothing....it serves as a deterrent to dealers who come to the village from
Vizcaino. And if users are caught with it on them, they can be "convinced" to whisper who their dealer is....so YES, these revisions do have value on
a smaller local scale to at least reduce the amount of meth getting out here.
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mcfez
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California has check inspections
Sobriety Checkpoints.
"The CHP maintains these checkpoints to reduce the number of drunk drivers on our highways and diminish the amount of pain, suffering and death that
result from drunk driving".
Ya ...righto! These clowns would set up "shop" in front of our bars...searching cars....and people. There still are..... drunks in the State of
California. Road check points do not work......even in Mexico.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Ya ...righto! These clowns would set up "shop" in front of our bars...searching cars....and people. |
That, too, is harassment.
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viabaja
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Police state! HaHaHAHa!! Get a life! Those who have not been to a militarized (ie a country run by the military) country have no clue. Leave your
preconceived legal notions back in the US people. Understand that Mexico's legal system are both ancient and classical, based on the Greek, Roman and
French legal systems. Ours as you all should know started with the Code of Hammurabi and then evolved from England.
So get used to the military check points with, yes, automatic weapons pointed in your direction. It breaks up the drive. I have a kick talking to
these kids about the type of weapons they carry and what they prefer.
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JESSE
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I went tru that checkpoint, nothing to complain about, kids where doing their job because there was a murder in the los cabos area and they where
searching for suspects. Standard search, a few questions, get out of the car, open your trunk, and in a few cases lets see what you have inside your
car.
What a bunch of crybabies.
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latina
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Lucky Baja California Sur! Third lowest crime rate in Mexico. Do you think it is that much of an imposition to be checked at roadblocks by the army
if you have nada to hide?
On Sunday 23rd the army captured "El Guero Layo", who is considered to be the drug boss of the narcos operating in La Paz. They had an anonymous tip
that he was headed to Pichilingue and they got their man on the road to there from La Paz, along with 10 kilos of marijuana.
With all the crap the army has to deal with, do they need to worry about handling gringos with kid gloves on top of it. In addition to their
historical job description now they lay their lives on the line in the war against drugs. Let them do their job as swiftly and thoroughly as possible
and get on with it.. You can't have it both ways; nowadays your safety comes with a lack of privacy on the side.
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tiotomasbcs
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I'm good with a little search! The Cops and Military have a tough job. Too soft and they move in! I was just searched here in Pescadero by a similar, small group of well armed Soldiers. General Simpatico may be
aserting himself or has some tipoff? Don't feel a coldie would have been a problem. A Doobie, probably not! They were polite and thorough but my
Lab didn't like them: he's usually mellow. Near the coast there could be drop offs at night I don't know about?! Helicoptr this morning patrolling
n/s. I only hope this doesn't signal more drug activity. We have been fortunate for a long while!. Tio
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Bomberro
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New Fashion Line
Guess we to start a new fashion line, shorts with see through pockets and glass handbags! We may get rich! Lets call it
"Checkpoint Rags"? Have to get them sewn in China and shipped to baja, and as for the short solder with the rubber gloves, we can sell silicone finger
blockers so the gloved finger does not go too high!
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jakecard
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This thread is Baja Nomad at its best. Stellar points, great discussion.
Jake
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jakecard
This thread is Baja Nomad at its best. Stellar points, great discussion.
Jake |
Right. Got the marooon suggesting death for pot smuggling, then the cherries whining and scared.
Stay up North if you can't handle shake downs by dirty cops and the military getting personal.
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Mengano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Stay up North if you can't handle shake downs by dirty cops and the military getting personal. |
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windgrrl
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G20 Prep?
Perhaps the groundwork is being laid for G20 security...then you'll get see what a police state looks like:
http://www.wtoc.com/story/15677212/los-cabos-to-host-g20-sum...
Los Cabos to Host G20 Summit in 2012
Information contained on this page is provided by companies via press release distributed through PR Newswire, an independent third-party content
provider. PR Newswire, WorldNow and this Station make no warranties or representations in connection therewith.
SOURCE Los Cabos Convention & Visitors Bureau
President Felipe Calderon Selects Los Cabos as Official Host City
LOS CABOS, Mexico, Oct. 12, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- The Los Cabos Convention & Visitors Bureau today announced that Mexico's President Felipe
Calderon has officially selected Los Cabos as the host city for the 2012 G20 Summit, which will be held in June 2012. The President made the
announcement at a press conference held in Mexico last Thursday. The destination's first-class hotel and airport infrastructure were noted as two
important factors in the decision.
"Los Cabos is extremely proud and honored to be selected as the official host city for the G20 Summit as this is an incredible opportunity for our
destination as well as for the country of Mexico," says Gonzalo Franyutti, President of the Los Cabos Convention & Visitors Bureau. "Los Cabos has
the exclusive appeal, a contemporary tourism infrastructure and the safety record required to host an event of this global caliber. As a haven for
VIPs throughout the world, Los Cabos is truly the 'Window to the World' for Mexico. We look forward to welcoming the G20 delegates and attendees to
our destination."
With 13,000 total rooms in the destination, Los Cabos will dedicate 11,000 rooms to the G20 Summit to accommodate the more than 7,000 attendees, while
the Mexican government will invest more than $47,000,000 into the development and promotion of the Summit.
In addition, a new 653,400 square foot Convention Center will house the G20 meetings and events. Designed to accommodate over 6,000 people, the
Convention Center represents $100,000,000 investment by the federal government and a $1,500,000 investment from the State of Baja California Sur. The
municipality of Los Cabos endowed a 15-acre tract of land, which is located alongside a private golf community and boasts magnificent views for the
building of the Convention Center, and the Los Cabos Tourism Board has also invested almost $1,000,000 in the project. The Convention Center will be
designated a "green" facility, and will be designed with energy efficiency in mind and will be equipped with solar panels. Construction of the center
is set to begin during the first week of November.
©2011 PR Newswire. All Rights Reserved.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
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dtbushpilot
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I went through the surprise checkpoint on the dirt road North out of Los Barriles on Sunday with our friends from Calif. behind us. The usual where
are you from, where are you going and waved us on. I told him my amigo was behind me and he didn't stop him. On the way back we were waved through.
Nothing unusual, no problem, no empty pockets. Took same friends to the SJD airport today, 2 police road blocks along the way, waved through both
coming and going. Was chatted up a bit by one guy because the semi in front of me was held up briefly, not questions just chatting, no problems with
the police either....like always.
Did you actually get searched Bomberro or hear about it from someone else?
[Edited on 10-27-2011 by dtbushpilot]
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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RonnieRockCod
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Baja vs USA checkpoints
Apparently some of you folks think that searching purses and empting pockets at Baja checkpoints constitutes a police state. What then, would you call
a country that requires airline passengers to remove their shoes, including children wearing rubber thongs, patting down Nuns wearing habit,
disasemblance of a wheelchair of a handicap person, subjecting women to a physical pat ( read that "rub") down and others to X-ray type body scans
and even a search through the diaper of a nine month old child ?
I ask that those of you who live in Baja that objects to purse and pocket searches and feel they are unreasonable and indicative of a "police
state" why on earth do you live there? Good luck to all. RRC.
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BajaBlanca
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it may be on a small scale, as some have said, but for sure it is a deterrant and I, for one, would hate to have more drugs showing up in the
villages...
and it is good that sometimes their M.O. changes - targeting grigoes , the targeting Mexicans, then reverting back .... keeps everyone who is breaking
the law on their toes, while causing us non dealers some grief timewise.
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slimshady
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On Saturday I took the coastal road from Los Barriles to Cardonal and had one check point along the dirt road near the Punta Pescadora Hotel. Another
Near Cardonal. As we Drove along Boca Del Alamo to los Planes we encountered one along the way near Los Planes heading towards Bahia de los Suenos.
After having lunch we went through the same check point again. We took highway 1 again through San Bartolo and encounterd another check point. The
asked us to step out looked around the toyota. Asked us where we were going and where we came from. Very polite and professional. It is apparent they
were on weekend duty.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
Very polite and professional. It is apparent they were on weekend duty. |
Brought back memories of the past before Mexico had a war to keep the military busy.
On days that called for a parade, such as Independence Day, the Army and Navy would have a company of men marching down the street right behind the
Charros and their horses which deposited land-mines for the folowing marchers to avoid.
Point is, many were weekenders and didn't even have uniforms, but they strutted proudly, none the less.
It was a more simple time.....which I miss.
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Cypress
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Some neighborhoods complain of high crime rates and lack of police protection, then when the police step-up their presence they call it harassment.
Sounds like the same old story right here.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Some neighborhoods complain of high crime rates and lack of police protection, then when the police step-up their presence they call it harassment.
Sounds like the same old story right here. |
Perhaps the stepped-up presence isn't addressing their problems. 
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Ateo
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At least no one got shot in the head by a rubber bullet or tear gassed.
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