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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 10:24 AM
I am out


This is not the bajanomads i joined many years ago, its not fun anymore, and i don't need more negativity in my life. I started on the amigos board back in 98 and then later the nomads board because this was a great way to love baja, to keep in touch with everything baja, to meet good people, to help friends, to learn, to dream, and its not any of those things aymore.

Gracias to all.




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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 10:28 AM


Es una verdadera verguenza!!! :(



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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 10:37 AM


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Es una verdadera verguenza!!! :(


Así. Como la verguenza cuando Doug quitó la cuenta de Old Lady porque ella puso una queja porque mtgoat666 y joejustjoe llamó á ella "puta vieja".
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 10:49 AM


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Originally posted by JESSE
This is not the bajanomads i joined many years ago, its not fun anymore, and i don't need more negativity in my life. I started on the amigos board back in 98 and then later the nomads board because this was a great way to love baja, to keep in touch with everything baja, to meet good people, to help friends, to learn, to dream, and its not any of those things aymore.

Gracias to all.


Having a bad day, Jesse? Don't leave. There's no sense in letting anything here drive you away....besides, it isn't the same without you and your opinions/facts etc..
By giving up, you're throwing away a good opportunity to polish your arguementation skills, which I thought were getting pretty good.
It's Nomad, Jesse....not church. You know better than most how the game is played here and it makes no sense to me why you would accept defeat and quit.
But, do what you feel you must, and before you leave, let me remind you it's not the first time and you'll be back....so why bother going through all this nonsense.

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Sadly I think my participation in this forum is over.
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Mine as well Jack, its been a good 5 years but this is no fun anymore, take care everybody.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 10:56 AM


Verdidamente. Lo siento tambien.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:02 AM


Sad that arguing and debating has to take place but one needs to just ignore the player haters. jesse please keep sharing about la paz and your restaurant. we so want to visit with you there. so take a powder as travelpearl used to say but dont leave. tu amigo.David



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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:10 AM


Know how you feel Jesse:
I have the same problem so have just about been able to stay off the Off Topic and have decided not to respond to the 'Bunch of Commie Nuts in TJ".
The Childish BS going on with Somebody is this and has 15 names and hates mexico is beyond belief or answering

You have been a good help and should stay and just answer those Posts that are not produced by the Commie./Socie Nuts and their Childish BS..

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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:17 AM


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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
'Bunch of Commie Nuts in TJ".


Yep...by far the worst of all.

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You have been a good help and should stay and just answer those Posts that are not produced by the Commie./Socie Nuts and their Childish BS..
Skeet/loreto


You tell 'im, Skeet. :)
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:27 AM


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Being in the middle of a catfight, even if I'm not personally involved, gets... tiring. :(


Why do you let other people's problems bother you? Seems voyeuristic to me. :?:
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:27 AM


Deciding what to read in a hurry I check the names to see who's posted on a topic. If I see Jesse there I assume it's readable. Don't take my guide away from me.



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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:30 AM


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Why do people always have to make an announcement?
Seems strange to me.
Just do it. :light:


This appears to be the part in Iflyfish's psychological analysis from Dr. Berne's book where the victim says something to get attention.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:32 AM


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Originally posted by soulpatch
Why do people always have to make an announcement?
Seems strange to me.
Just do it. :light:


Nyme Saying?



won't stop me from going to my fave spots, and bragging about how we scored, BajaBRitch or not.....

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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:35 AM


I, for one, will miss your posts, Jesse. You are a very valued member of this board and I wish you would just take a deep breath and stay with us.

But I do agree that certain very limited members of this forum have made it unpleasant and difficult----------and I now try my best to just ignor them, and not "go there".

Of course your decision, but I hope you decide to "stay".

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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:37 AM


As mostly a lurker, there's some posters that I always read, Jesse being one.

Jesse, don't let the bastards win!!!!
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:39 AM


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Quote:
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Why do you let other people's problems bother you? Seems voyeuristic to me. :?:

Could be-- there's a certain morbid fascination in watching catfights.

But beyond that, I see it more like being in a c-cktail party. You wander from group to group. Over in that corner a couple of drunks are yelling insults at each other and begin to duke it out. You roll your eyes and join a group talking peacefully about Thanksgiving dinner, and after a couple of minutes the drunk left standing from the corner brawl, staggers over to your Thanksgiving group and starts name-calling anyone who will react. Is it voyeuristic to be disturbed in this situation?


Ditto's... :lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:40 AM


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.......this was a great way to love baja, to keep in touch with everything baja, to meet good people, to help friends, to learn, to dream, and its not any of those things aymore.

Gracias to all.


OK, FNG here, again, but Jesse, I gotta tell you: BajaNomad is ALL of those things to me. I have, with sick curiosity (like driving through a bad car wreck), watched the threads turn nasty with pointed jabs and insults and I was having real trouble deciding who really was the Dick, but I just gave that up. I'm here to glean the information and LOVE for Baja California and, yes, one another, that I see in (almost) all these posts. I forget who said that "Democracy is messy", but so is a social forum. Intelligent discussion can (often) give way to inane idiocy. To err is human. Yes, there are trolls who love to hate. I compare this to the Taliban: There really aren't very many of them, but they are REALLY nasty, vocal, and ARMED. That makes them powerful and dangerous only if no one stands up to them. That takes guts, no doubt. The other 99% of us are good people who care about the place (Baja California in this instance), the inhabitants, the environment and one another. We're all a little (a lot) beat down by the SH**storm that was 2011. That's understandable. Get the December Issue of Esquire. As an American it will put a little kick back in your step. I'm upbeat about our upcoming trip. As a result of this website (you guys), we are considering Mulege, La Paz, Bahia Gonzaga, Bahia Los Angeles, etc for our RV camping trip. Already been to DF, San Felipe, San Pancho, Penasco, Guadalajara, Guaymas, Bahia Kino, Vallarta, etc. etc. Can't WAIT to see Baja California. I thank all of YOU for that. Well, almost all of you. Not sure why all the animosity exists and don't care. Some slight years ago, whatever. Doesn't matter. Really. Get over it. Get on with it. I'm somewhat naive maybe, but think back to 9/11 and what was important to you on 9/12. It sure as HELL wasn't some petty squabble. Don't wait for a life-event like that to wake you up as to what your priorities are.
Internet Anonymity has a way of changing people, and usually not in a good way. Politeness necessary in a face to face discussion goes out the door. I'm a pretty good judge of character and I can tell that I'm really looking forward to meeting most of you in person. THANK YOU all for the constructive contributions to this website. Jesse, I want you to know that we're still out here. H.




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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 11:55 AM


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Could be-- there's a certain morbid fascination in watching catfights.

But beyond that, I see it more like being in a c-cktail party. You wander from group to group. Over in that corner a couple of drunks are yelling insults at each other and begin to duke it out. You roll your eyes and join a group talking peacefully about Thanksgiving dinner, and after a couple of minutes the drunk left standing from the corner brawl, staggers over to your Thanksgiving group and starts name-calling anyone who will react. Is it voyeuristic to be disturbed in this situation?


Baja nomads is presumably the only way for gringos in Baja to communicate with one another.
People are not quiting, they are being driven out by unwanted party guests
The quote above describes this web page well. Alcoholics have no perception of how badly they hurt the people around them.

Jesse posted a thread requesting that people stop trashing the baja web page with anti Mexico posts.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=56447#pid6725...
His thread turned into 6 pages of I hate Mexico and Mexicans posts.

Quote:
you're throwing away a good opportunity to polish your arguementation skills, which I thought were getting pretty good.
It's Nomad, Jesse


This is the train of thought that drives legitimate people away. With no effective leader ship Baja Nomads will continue to collect mentally challenged people who are no longer allowed to post on other web sites. People with abnormal brain chemistry can not be talked to or reasoned with..

Doug
Since you have given up on policing your web page ...
pass the baton to someone else.
create a 2 post per day limit for each computer, (not log in name.) The nomads will surely take up a collection to pay some to fix this page if you don't want to do it your self.

[Edited on 11-26-2011 by joerover]




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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 12:00 PM


take a deep breath, Jesse.

I do agree that sometime the comments are so nasty that one wonders what would ever inspire anyone to waste their time being mean, really mean, ridiculously calous.

We have met soooooooooo many readers who never post. They just lurk without feeling free to write and be heard without being brutally and viciously attacked. Which IMHO is very sad.





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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 12:10 PM


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...Como la verguenza cuando Doug quitó la cuenta de Old Lady porque ella puso una queja porque mtgoat666 y joejustjoe llamó á ella "puta vieja".


An inaccurate and misleading statement.

This was addressed previously:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=54033#pid6364...


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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 12:14 PM


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Is it voyeuristic to be disturbed in this situation?


What kind of friends do you have, anyway? It's probably voyeuristic that you stayed at that party as long as you did to see the metamorphosis unfold.

Yep....This is a side of the Larry Lencho we haven't seen in the past. Vedddy interesting and Kafakaesque. :o
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