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David K
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Maybe don't do the two cans at the same visit... get 3 liters and then come back an hour later and get 27 pesos (or whatever 3 liters cost earlier)?
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This is total crap. I'm a Underground Storage Tank System Operator and everything I know about these Dresser Wayne/Gilbarco pumps leads me to call
BS.
What I see in my line of work is the public is very distrusting of gas station owners. Everyone thinks the operator is trying to screw his/her
customers. Generally what I find is the general public knows jack about how these systems work. I've never met one operator who deliberately cheats
the customer and I deal with a lot of scumbags. They disable leak detection systems, illegally dispose of hazardous waste, and illegally reset vapor
recovery diagnostic systems, but Ive never seen anyone do something like this.
Pumps do go out of calibration from time to time - in both directions - but this whole liter vs. peso and gaining or losing gas is total BS. The
general public may think all you need is a special chip or software program to screw the public like this but I can tell you from experience I've
never seen anything like this.
Just my $.02. I'll be interested in seeing Bob and Susan's results mañana.
Oh and I know - this is Mexico, not the USA so don't even start. Let's see the results mañana. If I'm wrong I will apologize. 
[Edited on 11-30-2011 by ateo]
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David K
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Jon, just how do they get the pump to read (and charge for) 23 liters when the 19 liter jerry can is filled? Baja Cactus is an honest station... but
far too many Pemex stations have pumps that do not pump honest liters.
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Ateo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Jon, just how do they get the pump to read (and charge for) 23 liters when the 19 liter jerry can is filled? Baja Cactus is an honest station... but
far too many Pemex stations have pumps that do not pump honest liters. |
That is a simple calibration issue, in favor of the owner. That pump would be under-dispensing. I don't doubt this type of theft, although I've
never seen it deliberately done in the US. I bet some stations do this from time to time in Mexico. In the USA, Weights & Measures would find
out and nail your butt to the wall.
I'm only disputing the whole "pay for liters instead of a peso amount". I don't see this as a viable theft option for the operator. I could be wrong
though. There are much easier ways to steal from your customer, like calibrating your pumps in favor of yourself.
There was a station I had in LA that was giving away a free gallon for every gallon it was charging for. There was a line out into the street before
the cashier realized what was happening. Funny thing is not one person called the station to report the pump over-dispensing. That owner lost about
$6000 before he realized what was going on!!
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Not much to do with liters, measurement, etc...but on my trip north in the last two days, the dollar-peso exchange rate varied quite a bit.
Spent all my pesos on wine, women, and song..and was left with only US dolares to fill my gas-guzzler.
Same day events: Nov 27, 2011
First exchange was at Vizcaino Pemex north end...11P to 1 dollar. (I bought $30 US worth and moved on)
Second exchange was at El Rosario Pemex....12.5P to 1 dollar. ( I filled up.)
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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"...spent most of my money on wine, women and song, ..and waisted the rest." W.C. Fields
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Bob and Susan
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my answer...
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Common sense should tell you this.
Till they develop pumps with minds of their own.
[Edited on 11-30-2011 by vandenberg]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
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That is sooooooooooooo awesome! Made me smile. 
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Thank you Bob.!!!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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So, now we know.
Yur screwed if you do and yur screwed if you dont..................buy by the liter.
Makes sense.
I'm kinda in Phil S's camp, on this one. Really, what is your alternative?
Ordering by the liter, isnt..............
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Re: Try Ordering Fuel By The Liter
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Try Ordering Fuel By The Liter |
I always place my order in units of imperial pints. I used to order gasoline in joules, but the energy density units of measurement seem to perplex
the gas jockeys, they just stared at me like i was from mars when i requested 300 megajoules of unleaded.
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for us simpletons...
300 megajoules of unleaded = 2.28 gallons
i guess "the goat" has a small tank
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Bob - it took me some time, but I finally found the flaw in an otherwise compelling argument - WHERE DO YOU SHOW THE TAPE CALIBRATION?
Nice try!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
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Wonderful post Bob, you get an A+ on this and the music selection, too.
Just a follow-up: Was that a true 3 liters of gas?
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true 3 liters wasn't part of the test....
only...
do you get more if you buy by liters instead of peso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
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BUSTED. Gracias for the video and clarification. I was skeptical the whole time.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
true 3 liters wasn't part of the test....
only...
do you get more if you buy by liters instead of peso |
If you still have the containers with the marks, you could determine the exact amount dispensed. It would make a perfect conclusion to the
experiment.
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Wait! Did you use U.S. Department of Weights and Measures containers? Huh? Did you?
I thought so.
I am the KING of precision. I go around the world checking these things and I know more that you do. In other words, I am a blowhard.
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Ateo
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Time for Mythbusters.
Really, a 5 gallon test would be needed to verify my claim that this is bullchit, but trust me, this is a bs urban Baja legend.
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