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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajagrouper
My car has an onboard computer that shows MPG and in the US I get 30 MPG, in Mexico I get 37 MPG....go figure....... |
No ethanol added.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Mexican gas is better... no stinkin' ethynol, so your mileage will go up... using less fuel and that is better for the enviroment then putting corn
syrup in your car! |
Maybe talk to your Republican friends about getting rid of the farm subsidies.....
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Mexican gas is better... no stinkin' ethynol, so your mileage will go up... using less fuel and that is better for the enviroment then putting corn
syrup in your car! |
Maybe talk to your Republican friends about getting rid of the farm subsidies..... |
never have figured that one out. Why spend more energy turning corn into energy than it gives back? Sugar cane is superior. Why not grow that for
energy and feed the corn to hungry people and livestock? I never got it... well, except for the subsidy money part driving ethanol.
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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rts551
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goes right along with the oils subsidies, and "cut, just not in my back yard!"
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
goes right along with the oils subsidies, and "cut, just not in my back yard!" |
yep...or drill just not in my back yard/beach etc.
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J.P.
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Just maybe DK needs to put a Poop tank on the back of his Tacoma and run it on Methane Gas Its seem's the one thing he is full of.
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David K
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I would love to see oil wells off our coast if there is oil there... It is the view of FREEDOM and INDEPENDENCE. The fishing would improve greatly,
for one thing, but the ability to tell Hugo Chavez and the sheiks of the Middle East to go suck their own oil, because we have plenty here in America
is the best reward...
The 'not in my backyard' mentality is from the Kennedy compound when they heard that someone wanted to put up wind generators near their precious
beach.
Oh, J.P. that is really some class you got there amigo... typical when they can't debate on logic or facts they go with insults.
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I would love to see oil wells off our coast if there is oil there... It is the view of FREEDOM and INDEPENDENCE. The fishing would improve greatly,
for one thing, but the ability to tell Hugo Chavez and the sheiks of the Middle East to go suck their own oil, because we have plenty here in America
is the best reward...
The 'not in my backyard' mentality is from the Kennedy compound when they heard that someone wanted to put up wind generators near their precious
beach.
Oh, J.P. that is really some class you got there amigo... typical when they can't debate on logic or facts they go with insults.
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I have seen your logic when you repeatedly attack those that dont agree or ouestion your lack of logic.
[Edited on 3-21-2012 by J.P.]
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David K
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Define 'attack' compared to 'assist' or 'teach'... How about bad language or personal attacks... can you find ONE in the past year?
I am here to help others, or share the Baja experience, and to make friends... Because I have an over-abundance of Baja to share, it bothers some and
they lash out with cheap shots or insults... Like this one: "Just maybe DK needs to put a Poop tank on the back of his Tacoma and run it on Methane
Gas Its seem's the one thing he is full of."
For most however, they appreciate that I go the extra kilometer to help or share my collection of books, maps, photos and memories. The amount of
thanks and keep it up message I get far outweigh the peey posts like this one from you.
Baja Nomad should be a fun experience... Why not embrace the good and not waste any more time with the bad or the ugly? Peace?
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Don'tcha love all the hyperbole?
All of the gasolina meaning every last drop sold in Baja California (not Sur) comes from the Pemex / Shell Oil Deer Park TX joint venture refinery.
Base stock gasolines are bought, sold and traded in the USA.
Thanks to a 2 day visit to the Pemex refinery in Celaya I learned that USA gasolina is better than made in mexico gasolina. But the Baja
California/USA gasolina does not contain Shell oil Co. proprietary additives for driveability. IOW no nitrogen based additive which is supposed to
compete with chevron's techron.
I compared tank after tank of ethanol gasolines to chevron in the USA and obtained 8.5% consistently poorer fuel economy. Sorry, but I don't have
thirty cents a gallon to waste on whatever marginal benefits Archer Daniel Midland has bribed congressmen to accept for us poor fools.
Mainland gasoline including baja sur seems to vary from good to fair. I use an additive which makes the fuel seemingly indistinguishable from USA
fuel.
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
but the ability to tell Hugo Chavez and the sheiks of the Middle East to go suck their own oil |
While you're at it, tell Canada and Mexico to shove it,
they are the 2 top exporters of oil to the US,
I just read Pemex is sinking an exploratory well on
your PRECIOUS beach, Shell Isle
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Define 'attack' compared to 'assist' or 'teach'... How about bad language or personal attacks... can you find ONE in the past year?
I am here to help others, or share the Baja experience, and to make friends... Because I have an over-abundance of Baja to share, it bothers some and
they lash out with cheap shots or insults... Like this one: "Just maybe DK needs to put a Poop tank on the back of his Tacoma and run it on Methane
Gas Its seem's the one thing he is full of."
For most however, they appreciate that I go the extra kilometer to help or share my collection of books, maps, photos and memories. The amount of
thanks and keep it up message I get far outweigh the peey posts like this one from you.
Baja Nomad should be a fun experience... Why not embrace the good and not waste any more time with the bad or the ugly? Peace?
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Well here is one instance when you attacked the messenger and not the message:
It's like they live is some kind of fantasy land where more people on food stamps is better than more people who don't need them! Just okay the pipe
line from Canada and BOOM, thousands of new jobs and a direct supply of what we need. Seriously, liberalism IS a mental disorder! http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=58676&pag...
I encourage discussion but often times you go a bit too far with your "Liberals don't believe in freedom, America, etc." bs.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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I read some of the WikiLeaks diplomatic exchanges with our embassies in latin america. The only thing I can say is we are lucky that these countries
do not have nuclear weapons! The arrogance shown by US big shots is disgraceful.
If you want good old-fashioned in your face "United Fruit Company" graft and corruption in our US congress, may I recommend examining ARCHER DANIELS
MIDLAND? This octopus had designs on entering Mexico, spending billions in bribe money to Mexican officialdom to force corn syrup into the soft drink
market ar a price far lower than either what it cost to produce, or is being sold to anyone in the US. When the sugar market collapsed in Mexico
ARCHER DANIELS MIDLAND would then raise the price of corn syrup multi-fold. This is the same colossus that bought its way into our US congress in
order to force CORN SYRUP ALCOHOL into our gasoline supply rather than alcohol made from SUGAR BEETS that is 4 X 10 times more productive per acre.
Alcohol from sugar beets would be significantly cheaper than Archer Daniels Midland corn syrup.
After what corporate looters did to our economy and is continuing with crude oil speculation, I have lost all confidence and all RESPECT for US
industry, and leadership. I remember Newt Gingrich throwing a fit back in the nineties crying that "SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS should be invested in the
stock market".
LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT*LOOT
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
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I remember Newt Gingrich throwing a fit back in the nineties crying that "SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS should be invested in the stock market".
LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT***LOOT*LOOT |
----- it was a good idea then, and is now. I have 80% of my net-worth invested "in the stock market", and have for the last 40+ years. My average
annualized return for the past 3 years (as of Jan 1) has been an astounding +13.9% (per year) (about 45% invested overseas). Long term, I am about
annualized + 11%. Now THAT is a good way to remain solvent, it would appear to me---especially since I only take out 3% per year, and let the rest
build and build.
What the repubs have been calling for is THE CHOICE to invest a PORTION of your SS funds in the "Market", not the whole thing (tho I would if I could)
But this is all academic to me since I get no Social Security anyway.
I say all this not to brag, but to refute the myth that "the Market" is so scary and that you will lose your shirt.
Barry
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
My average annualized return for the past 3 years (as of Jan 1) has been an astounding +13.9% (per year) (about 45% invested overseas). Long term,
I am about annualized + 11%. .
Barry |
Outstanding Barry, I'm getting 'to that age' trying
to find out where to stash cash, wish I wasn't such
risk adverse
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
My average annualized return for the past 3 years (as of Jan 1) has been an astounding +13.9% (per year) (about 45% invested overseas). Long term,
I am about annualized + 11%. .
Barry |
Outstanding Barry, I'm getting 'to that age' trying
to find out where to stash cash, wish I wasn't such
risk adverse |
Sancho-------gosh, even the Vanguard Index 500 Mutual Fund has averaged about +7% annualized for the long haul----not bad, really. There is "risk"
short term, but for the long term for the person who does not have any really good source of information it is hard to beat the "Index 500". Go to
the Vanguard Funds website and take a look at all the funds and their returns, and their annualized returns long term--------Most are pretty darn
good!!!---there are a few clunkers, but that shows up fast when you look at the stats. I love Vanguard and T. Rowe Price for excellent Mutual Funds
with low fees.
Sure beats CD's and/or worse stashing it under the mattress, I believe. All depends on your comfort level, of course, and therein lies the
problem--------I always think "long term" and I don't have a turnover rate of more than about 15% of my stocks annually, average--------no "day
trading".
Barry
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DavidE
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Go ask the pension funds such as CALPERS just how well they did from 2008 - 2011. If hundreds of billions of dollars were to inflate the market the
jackals won't be far behind and you can take that to the bank :-)
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chuckie
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Is CALPERS an additive?
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El Camote
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Is CALPERS an additive? |
No. I believe it's a gland in the human male reproductive system.
Knowledge is good. - Emil Faber
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Define 'attack' compared to 'assist' or 'teach'... How about bad language or personal attacks... can you find ONE in the past year?
I am here to help others, or share the Baja experience, and to make friends... Because I have an over-abundance of Baja to share, it bothers some and
they lash out with cheap shots or insults... Like this one: "Just maybe DK needs to put a Poop tank on the back of his Tacoma and run it on Methane
Gas Its seem's the one thing he is full of."
For most however, they appreciate that I go the extra kilometer to help or share my collection of books, maps, photos and memories. The amount of
thanks and keep it up message I get far outweigh the peey posts like this one from you.
Baja Nomad should be a fun experience... Why not embrace the good and not waste any more time with the bad or the ugly? Peace?
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Well here is one instance when you attacked the messenger and not the message:
It's like they live is some kind of fantasy land where more people on food stamps is better than more people who don't need them! Just okay the pipe
line from Canada and BOOM, thousands of new jobs and a direct supply of what we need. Seriously, liberalism IS a mental disorder! http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=58676&pag...
I encourage discussion but often times you go a bit too far with your "Liberals don't believe in freedom, America, etc." bs. |
Zac, "liberalism" is not the "messenger" it is a political theory or practice. The line: 'Liberalism is a Mental Disorder' is the title of a best
selling book (by Michael Savage), so that came to my mind. In no way was it implied by me to be a name for anyone.
If liberal ideas worked, then we would not have any problems at all... But, any time a liberal idea is tried on any problem, it makes that problem
worse, it enslaves more people, and it makes the government bigger to run it. That's lose, lose, lose... I am for win, win, win for America.
I love all people as a rule... even liberal people (they need the most love)... So, while my conservative logic may baffle you because of so many
years of hearing how bad conservatives are (from rich liberals, who want to keep taking our money for them and their failed programs), I assure you
that my goal is the most freedom for everyone and prosperity that comes with freedom.
A liberal measures compassion by how many people he has given aid to... A conservative measures compassion by how many people no longer need it!
That is also expressed by the old saying, "you can give a man a fish so he can eat for a day... or you can teach a man how to fish and he can feed
himself forever."
Have you seen the bumper sticker that says "Annoy a liberal, get a job" ?
So, I apologize if you heard me calling you (or anyone here) a name... I was just expressing my thoughts on a failed method, not a person.
Have a great weekend!!
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