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captkw
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boats
and I cant forget to steer you to google "moose boats" and watch the vid
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captkw
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
Hola,maybe you can call 'TWIN VEE'or LIVINGSTON and tell you would like to be a dealer for them and they could give you a "demo" and just take folks
out when its snoty...they basicly sell themselfs !! also ck out "zapcats" on you tube and also "DUX" boats..K & T those zapcat races must be a
BLAST !! I would post the Y.T. vids but I slow on this lap top ..
[Edited on 6-15-2012 by captkw]
[Edited on 6-15-2012 by captkw] |
OOPS
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dizzyspots
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Hey Bert..there are a couple of nice Livingstons on the Tucson Craigslist...
$2-3000
then again, I could sell ya my 12ft Valco and buy the Livingston??? LOL
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cj5orion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
and I cant forget to steer you to google "moose boats" and watch the vid |
Aluminum cats ! hmmmmm ?
I checked out those "zapcats" !
HOLY MOLY !
not exactly the "comfort ride" I'm lookin for !
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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dizzyspots
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Hey Bert check your email..sent you some listings from Tucson CL....
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
The best set up where they mounted a set of wheels on the center of balance and one person could launch this boat over some nasty beach and rock.
They normally used around a 15 hp motor and most had some type of live bait tank as well as a radio and depth finder. Every boat that I watched over
a long period of time did develop some cracks which needed aluminum welding.
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For those who have such a setup .....
This happened to me on my first boat as well. I believe that this is due to a design that puts the entire weight of the boat on the 1/8" aluminum
sides of the boat. Even though the holes are reinforced by thicker metal plates that overlay and can be welded to the boat there is still a lot of
stress on a small area. This becomes a particulary big problem when a waves recedes from under the boat and there is now the additional 300lb of
weight from you and your partner on those 2 sides.
To overcome this I build the axle under the seat but adjoining the metal sides of the seat. Then the axle is welded to those seat support. The weight
of the boat is now supported along the sides and the entire axle because the seat support is welded to the bottom of the boat.
A couple of other suggestions regarding this cracking:
a) hop out of the boat before the wheels touch the bottom during launching and returning.
b) Don't get balanced wheels for the bigger tin boats. Too much weight.
If a crack occurs they can be a real pain to locate. Best to not have them at all.
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Cisco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cisco
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
20" transoms (motor mount to bottom, middle of the boat) will allow for more motor options than 15" transoms, unless you install a jack plate. I don't
know how well jack plates work. Anybody have experience with them? My boat has a 15" transom. |
Don't understand your allow for more options statement as it regards smaller motors. Short shaft is 15", long shaft is 20". Order whatever.
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I think you do understand, it limits you to smaller motors, as you said. In the case of Honda, 30 hp or less. The original post mentioned a 16'
runabout. My 14 footer is rated to 40 hp and I was disappointed that I can't find a 40 short shaft. I want to pull a skier or wake boarder. Great fun
and Bahia Concepcion is a perfect place for it. 30 hp will work, just not as well. I guess most boaters are fishermen and therefore smaller tiller
motors are OK. I'm not, I like to go fast on calm water, with a steering wheel and remote controls, a runabout.
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I have been away from outboards for awhile but am amazed that a short shaft 40 is not available.
Alternative is to cannibalize another engine for the lower unit. Bolt-up is the same in generally three different hp ratings for major builders. Eg:
The 30, 40 and 50 all use the same lower unit. Find a 15" 30 hp as an example and swap it out.
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Cisco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cj5orion
VERY GOOD INFO !
THANX MUCH GENTS !
keep en comin.
hey cisco...when I get back we should have a beer. |
Golly, I don't know where, place has grown so much.
Can't do a $1.00 "Breakrito" and Sunday brunch beer at Tug's Tavern anymore, everywhere has become so expensive.
How about Bub's Dive?
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dizzyspots
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My "baja" wheel set uses a single 2" square aluminum tube that spans the widthe of the boat...the inner plate/flange is welded to the cross tube...the
outer plate/flange is bolted/sealed to the inner plate...no flex...no stress on the outer skin...wheel "axles" extend about 8-10" into the
cross tube copied the design from another nomads post on this forum
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Bob and Susan
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just get a used older 15 footer...you'll be way happy
put a newer 4 stroke 25hp or greater and you'll FLY
they are light and easy to launch and store
make sure you put rollers on the trailer instead of the wood bunkers unless you plan to drive the thing to the north and back
it'll slide right on and off even at the lowest tide
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Martyman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
captkw,finally someone that agrees with me.GENE KIRA CAN"T FISH!!
"and the guy that wrote" baja catch" has a LOT to learn about boats and fishing baja !!" |
BLASPHEMY!
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baitcast
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And that Martyman comes from the Whistler who doesn't even need a boat to be successful,beach caught WSB by the man!
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
captkw,finally someone that agrees with me.GENE KIRA CAN"T FISH!!
"and the guy that wrote" baja catch" has a LOT to learn about boats and fishing baja !!" |
Please state your reasons.
How can a guy write the most popular book on fishing baja and not know how to fish?
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RonnieRockCod
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Your next tin boat
First, four stroke absolutely! I had a 14 ft Valco with a 15 hp Honda and it did everything I wanted to do in the Sea of Cortes. The boat fished three
comfortably. I had Wheel a Weigh launch wheels and was able to launch and recover easily over sand or rocks. And able to do it solo. I fished Papa
Fernandez, Consaga, Oakie Landing, L.A. Bay, Las Animas, San Lucas Cove, Punta Chivato and San Quintin. This over fifteen years. I'm not bragging only
trying to emphasize that a forteen footer is plenty boat for one, two or even three. And you don't need forty horses. The most important thing is to
watch the weather and the wind. Good luck with whatever you choose. Please let us know your final choice. RRC.
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Skipjack Joe
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Well, I've never fished with Kira so I can't say.
You can usually tell if a fisherman knows his stuff right away. Same with a guide.
My kid hates to troll. I'm not that fond of it either but when you don't know where they are it's all you're left with. Sometimes it can be boring
when you catch too many fish trolling. Kira states that he starts trolling on the way to the fishing grounds, virtually as soon as the motor is
started. That's a bit much for me. I always attributed that to an era when the fish were abundant and you could get them everywhere, not to a love for
trolling.
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chuckie
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Some days, Ya gottta do what it takes...Dorado are still spotty enough that a lot of water has to be covered..I got 3 yesterday, and had a billfish
encounter...On Livingston boats? there were a couple here in Mulege, for a while, I think no more..I think I remember problems with wind
sensitivity...I think the ideal boat for the not every day user , would be a tin boat 14-17 feet, medium size 4 stroke engine, with or without
balls...Not what I own..Run what ya brung tho..
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cj5orion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
Besides it was Neil Kelly who was the fisherman and Kira had the phi beta kapa in literture or something.
Okay I am done.All you "Baja Catch" fans,keep trolling in circles! |
GENTLEMEN ! THIS THREAD IS ABOUT BOATS !
PLEASE ....START YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT YOUR DIFFERENCES
WITH "BAJA CATCH" !!!!!
THANK YOU
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chuckie
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Exactly...
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cj5orion
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Hmmmmmm?
a '86 bayliner capri cuddy,,,volvo penta I/O
"Engine turns over but wont start"
"last on the water.....last year "
Its sellin for a great price.
What you guys think ?
bayliners ? good boat ?
volvo engine/outdrive...good stuff ?
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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chuckie
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NO NO NO!!!! Money pit....
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