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Don Jorge
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if you understood rock climbing better you would know that if you repel down a face then you cant recover your vary expensive rope and other
equipment at the top few rock climbers I know can afford to do this. and also I like to not litter a site with such things. so you rope up and clime
down recovering your gear as you go . this way you have it to use on the next leg of your hike .
Bruce, I am sorry I jumped in on this thread. Didn't realize you understood rockclimbing so well.
I will never do use a double rope rappel or leave any gear behind, ever, ever again.
And Ned can't have my sat if he's going down first!
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
"All models are wrong, but some are useful." George E.P. Box
"Nature bats last." Doug "Hayduke" Peac-ck
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaloco
Bruce...Don't let a few small minded people bother you. Here is my list...
1. Compass
2. Map
3. Water filtration pump
4. First aid kit, including ace bandages to wrap that busted leg
5. Signal mirror
6. Signal flares
7. Nylon cord
8. Slingshot
9. Plastic sheeting
10. Fishing line and hooks
11. Waterproof matches
12. Swiss army knife
13. Army mess kit
14. Extra pair of socks
15. Camping and Wilderness Survival book
The good thing is it's baja...hopefully your close to the ocean, and probably close to someone anywhere... |
good list . I'm glad a few of you understood what the thread is really about. not climbing technique.
the reason I picked duct tape as something I would like to have in my pack is it is the best thing for making a splint for the leg. also good for
holding sticks together to build a shelter etc.etc. and the bic Liter to build a big smoky fire and keep it going . If you know this aria you will
realize that a smoky fire will bring a rancher sooner or later. with the things on your list you would survive just fine.
Bruce R Leech
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Jorge
if you understood rock climbing better you would know that if you repel down a face then you cant recover your vary expensive rope and other
equipment at the top few rock climbers I know can afford to do this. and also I like to not litter a site with such things. so you rope up and clime
down recovering your gear as you go . this way you have it to use on the next leg of your hike .
Bruce, I am sorry I jumped in on this thread. Didn't realize you understood rockclimbing so well.
I will never do use a double rope rappel or leave any gear behind, ever, ever again.
And Ned can't have my sat if he's going down first! |
when you are on a seven day pack trip you cant always carry enough rope to do a double line rappel for a 600 foot or more face. if you are going to
have poor Ned carry 1200 feet of rope he isn't going to carry much else. it sounds like you have done some recreational climbing . you are probably a
better climber than I .But I don't think you have done much point to point cross contry rough terrain climbing where you carry and climb with every
thing you need for 7 to 14 days. it is easy to have all the right gear when you drive up to the face in your truck and go up come down have a few
beers and go back to the hotel.
Bruce R Leech
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jrbaja
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Nice try Bruce
but when you realize that there is more fun to be had at a jehovahs witness convention, you will realize that a good number of these so called
"nomads" sit in front of a computer the majority of their lives complaining about peoples political preferences and calling others who don't think
like them lots of names.
But Nikon, since you missed me so much, I will try and find some time between bamboo orders to entertain the BORED. But not today.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
but when you realize that there is more fun to be had at a jehovahs witness convention, you will realize that a good number of these so called
"nomads" sit in front of a computer the majority of their lives complaining about peoples political preferences and calling others who don't think
like them lots of names.
But Nikon, since you missed me so much, I will try and find some time between bamboo orders to entertain the BORED. But not today. |
welcome back Jrbaja
Bruce R Leech
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pappy
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jerky, granola bars, a knife, waterproof matches, duct tape, plastic sheet, compass, topos,gloves, rope,space blanket, filter and a good attitude....
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
I will try and find some time between bamboo orders to entertain the BORED. But not
today. |
JR: OK, I gotta ask - how does one order bamboo? Does it come random or dimensional; by the foot or by the pound; old growth or new growth; clear
heart or CC; kiln dried or will a 16d go all the way through with a gentle tap; can I pick thru the stack for the good straight stuff or do I have to
pay the fork lift driver a little on the side?
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Debra
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The first thing that came to my mind in this query was....
(and I hate to admit this.......) What else! A "Nomad"to bail out my dumb butt!
Again, a thanks to all that bailed out my butt last summer when I was down, and stuck with the two kids, what a great network we have!
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jrbaja
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One orders bamboo
by going to the art show we had in Los Barriles last weekend where we pretty much sold out everything we had in stock.
Now, we are filling the orders that were made for things that we ran out of.
And most of Santiagos order ideas are correct as far as dealing with bamboo. Almost like wood except, WAY BETTER!
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
by going to the art show we had in Los Barriles last weekend where we pretty much sold out everything we had in stock.
Now, we are filling the orders that were made for things that we ran out of.
And most of Santiagos order ideas are correct as far as dealing with bamboo. Almost like wood except, WAY BETTER! |
Jr. we need to git some Bamboo planted here in Mulege
Bruce R Leech
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yankeeirishman
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jehovahs witness convention was fun.....
Heck....you might as well hear my list too!
The biggest killer in any emergency situation is panic. Panic blinds a person to reason and can cause them to compound the emergency with fatal
results. Controlling panic is a matter of focusing the mind and operating in an organized manner.
Picture of the kids?for your mental survival
Whistle?in case you forgot the mirror
Knife?. helps when eating cattail shoots
flint striker?.works when your matches are not!
alcohol wipes? Besides being antiseptic it will ignite with sparks from a flint striker
Snare wire?and luck?.. to catch dinner
Oh...you spilling is just as fine as mine two!
[Edited on 4-18-2005 by yankeeirishman]
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Bruce R Leech
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Good list Yankeeirishman I especially like the picture of the kids that is a really good one.
Bruce R Leech
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yankeeirishman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
Good list Yankeeirishman I especially like the picture of the kids that is a really good one. |
I'll sent you a picture of "me" for your survival pak
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bajaruby
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Ya know that is something I have never thought about, I guess 'cause I don't rock climb. But I do take my grand daughters up the Mokelume river every
summer to go swimming. It is a 4 mile hike and my main things are food, water, and toilet paper.
They are 7 and 9. and what would happen if something happened to one of them or "me". I have taught them many things about the wilderness, but never
thought about what would we do....... IF!
THANKS FOR PUTTING THAT BUG IN MY MIND.  
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yankeeirishman
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trailhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaruby
Ya know that is something I have never thought about, I guess 'cause I don't rock climb. But I do take my grand daughters up the Mokelume river every
summer to go swimming. It is a 4 mile hike and my main things are food, water, and toilet paper.
They are 7 and 9. and what would happen if something happened to one of them or "me". I have taught them many things about the wilderness, but never
thought about what would we do....... IF!
THANKS FOR PUTTING THAT BUG IN MY MIND. |
Sounds like a great trail if you go there each year, you have directions to this place (trailhead). I live not too far from it. Campsite
recommendation?
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bajaruby
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Y.I.M.
If you are comming from sacramento, you come up hwy. 16 to hwy. 49. Follow 49 through all the little towns to Jackson. about 2 miles south of
Jackson is Electra Rd. on your left. Follow this little windy rd. about 2 or so miles to the power house. You will have to park there and walk the
rest of the way. You will pass a b/wire fence,(just step over it) and another one you will go through. Don't worry you won't get in trouble for
doing this. Then you will come to a spring. Your feet will get pretty muddy as the snow you probablly already know is going to last quite some time
this year. Keek going and just follow the river up. You will come to a bunch of head size rocks and in the river will be a small island. That's my
spot! Just about 100 yards from there up stream is a GREAT swimming hole. The water above the power house is MUCH warmer than the water below by
about 50 degrees and is well worth the hike if you want to be alone.
As for the camping part. You are not allowed to camp out there and they lock the gate at 49 at night. Also if the gate at the power house is opened,
don't drive down there 'cause pg&e lock and unlock that gate all day long and you are not allowed. I will check and see if there is somewhere to
camp around here. Shoot I live here so I don't go camping here.
But believe me if you do go up there you will go as often as you can. If you fish bring a pole. Lots of trout.
If you see this:moon: don't look. LOL
Hope to see some other nomads up there as well.
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yankeeirishman
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Trout...you bet!
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaruby
Y.I.M.
If you are comming from sacramento, you come up hwy. 16 to hwy. 49. Follow 49 through all the little towns to Jackson. about 2 miles south of
Jackson is Electra Rd. on your left. Follow this little windy rd. about 2 or so miles to the power house. You will have to park there and walk the
rest of the way. You will pass a b/wire fence,(just step over it) and another one you will go through. Don't worry you won't get in trouble for
doing this. Then you will come to a spring. Your feet will get pretty muddy as the snow you probablly already know is going to last quite some time
this year. Keek going and just follow the river up. You will come to a bunch of head size rocks and in the river will be a small island. That's my
spot! Just about 100 yards from there up stream is a GREAT swimming hole. The water above the power house is MUCH warmer than the water below by
about 50 degrees and is well worth the hike if you want to be alone.
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Hey thanks! I will be going there on May1. Trout? Oh yes! Thanks for the great directions.
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bajaruby
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Let me know what time you are going to be there and I'll meet you and show the best fishing hole.
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