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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
[..... and this is not the intellectual sanctuary where weighty matters can be discussed.... |
Tony,
Thanks for the reminder  I slip from time-to-time and try to voice
dissent/common sense/ a different possible perspective.
But wasn't that glacier calving powerful? 
I first posted it with a comment "I hope this doesn't turn into a political debate", but that post was deleted/lost....
I just really wanted folks to see something never recorded before that might make them say, "Wow ....cool !" |
Yes, the video was amazing. The video, with the overlay of Manhattan, really helps us to get a true perspective of how powerful and vast this
phenomenon really is.
I say "Wow...cool! 
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vgabndo
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Affordable Care Act
How about this is a "huge power grab" by WE THE PEOPLE. Obama ran on a platform of healthcare reform. He soundly trounced the multi-millionaire
bankster who finally rose to the top of that bus full of marooons who ran in the GOP primary. (remember the 'best and brightest' of the Republican
Party?) We the people voted overwhelmingly for Obama and the ACA. The TeaBaggers, while abandoning the rest of their jobs, have tried 41 times to
reverse the will of the people, and they have failed 41 times. Now they are going to hold their breath and shut-down the government until their
MINORITY view is suddenly declared to be the majority.
The level of delusion that has beset these radicals is pretty clear to see when we watch them blame the Democrats and Obama for not being able to
deliver a budget. We the People want the ACA, we voted for it. If it is a bad idea, we'll pay for it. Just like we are paying for the EXTREME error in
judgement which placed George W. Bush in power for 8 years. Also remember that the military deserter G. W. Bush, was elected by a conservative Supreme
Court, NOT THE PEOPLE.
The TeaBaggers lost this fight over the ACA fair and square; all the way through the (conservative) Supreme Court. Time ran out, the buzzer went off,
it is time for the Palen types and their 10% approval rating to STFU and start applying the will of the people.
And, about fracking being non-polluting. Ask yourself why if you run the rapids through the Green River you will have to bring every drop of drinking
water with you in your pack. No amount of purification can make that water fit to drink any more according to my friend who just returned from running
the Green. Not long ago, it was still OK to purify and drink, but the thousands of fracking wells, OK'd by Dick Cheney's SECRET Halliburton energy
negotiations in 2001, are now threatening the purity of not just the Green, but the Colorado also.
Chaney's secret pro-industry gathering was supposed to be about sustainability, but only 7 of 105 recommendations addressed clean, sustainable energy.
What it DID do was make a crap load of money for the big five oil companies and all the Congressmen they pay.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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The other thread was moved to Off-Topic motoged. The scale of the calving is mind-numbing. Imagine what it was like to be there in person. What a
planet!
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We've been fortunate enough to be present at a couple of small (tiny by comparison to that video) glacial calvings and they were mind-boggling.
Also, of more interest to us, we witnessed two "calvings" of Isla San Luis off Punta Bufeo. They were impressive. Both times large portions of the
east end of the island broke off into the water. I know they are not the same thing as the glaciers, but the similarities of the phenomena
nevertheless elicited comparisons by us amateurs at the time.
Allen R
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
The other thread was moved to Off-Topic motoged. The scale of the calving is mind-numbing. Imagine what it was like to be there in person. What a
planet! |
Thanks....didn't think to look there
And I just did (could not see it....no big deal)....
Boy the Off-Topic forum is sure a cess-pool....
[Edited on 10-9-2013 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
And, about fracking being non-polluting. Ask yourself why if you run the rapids through the Green River you will have to bring every drop of drinking
water with you in your pack. No amount of purification can make that water fit to drink any more according to my friend who just returned from running
the Green. Not long ago, it was still OK to purify and drink, but the thousands of fracking wells, OK'd by Dick Cheney's SECRET Halliburton energy
negotiations in 2001, are now threatening the purity of not just the Green, but the Colorado also.
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As a point of possible interest----------I was the "Inner Canyon Management Ranger" for Dinosaur Natl. Monument for the years 1971 thru 1974 which
included the Green and Yampa Rivers. For all that time, the rivers were totally off-limits for drinking for a variety of complicated reasons. I ran
those rivers for 5 months a year almost every week, and we ALWAYS hauled ALL our drinking water with us, and recommended that everybody else do the
same. This even applied to Jones Creek, a major side canyon of the Green within the Park and a popular camping spot for river trips.
At the opposite end of the spectrum, the Eastern Sierra creeks that run down into Owens Valley were all declared undrinkable back when we lived there
(1947 to about 1995) and yet for that entire time, all culinary water taken from Oak Creek near Independence was taken directly unfiltered and
untreated from the creek and none of us, or our guests, EVER got sick.
Go figure???? Science in action!?!?!?!? You just never know.  
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
.....all culinary water taken from Oak Creek near Independence was taken directly unfiltered and untreated from the creek and none of us, or our
guests, EVER got sick. Barry |
Yeah, but do you glow in the dark.....yet? 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
.....all culinary water taken from Oak Creek near Independence was taken directly unfiltered and untreated from the creek and none of us, or our
guests, EVER got sick. Barry |
Yeah, but do you glow in the dark.....yet? |
that's a different subject--------apples and oranges????---------and we don't talk about that.
Barry
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