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msawin
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max speed Hyw ! 48 miles an hour.....
When is the last time YOU did it??
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
Looks like it would be easier to pass a bicyclist than a boat to me. Thanks for hammering that point home David. |
Can you answer the simple question? Seems most here get it... you do like to single my replies out, I notice...???
The highway is being widened, but in the sections that are still only 19' wide with NO shoulder and a cliff or drop-off, it is dangerous to ride your
bike. Would you let your children ride on it?
Now we have a confirmed fatality... Is insisting on some 'right' to be on the highway worth the pain, torment and death doing so causes? Can it wait,
can you ride another section instead?
Edit:
Zac, I am not whining, I am trying to be an advocate of a fun and happy Baja experience for everyone... That 1973 section of the highway was NOT
designed for bikes to ride on. (period).
[Edited on 1-28-2014 by David K]
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by msawin
max speed Hyw ! 48 miles an hour.....
When is the last time YOU did it?? |
I'm not complaining about having to slow down for cyclists, cows, slow moving cars, tractors, over-sized rvs, etc., either
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
Looks like it would be easier to pass a bicyclist than a boat to me. Thanks for hammering that point home David. |
In this case, boats on trailers are travelling much faster than a bicycle. It is the fact that the bicycle is traveling so slowly that is the
problem, for me at least. If there is a curve, or opposing traffic, you often have to slow down to a crawl VERY FAST to avoid hitting hazards like
bicycles. I have an equal problem with cows and horses, but they don't appear to know any better so they just scare me, not tee me off. I have had
some real close calls with horses and cows, mostly because they are so totally unpredictable. I NEVER drive more than about 50 on THAT road MAX
because of the hazards, and NEVER at night.
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
Looks like it would be easier to pass a bicyclist than a boat to me. Thanks for hammering that point home David. |
Can you answer the simple question? Seems most here get it... you do like to single my replies out, I notice...???
The highway is being widened, but in the sections that are still only 19' wide with NO shoulder and a cliff or drop-off, it is dangerous to ride your
bike. Would you let your children ride on it?
Now we have a confirmed fatality... Is insisting on some 'right' to be on the highway worth the pain, torment and death doing so causes? Can it wait,
can you ride another section instead?
Edit:
Zac, I am not whining, I am trying to be an advocate of a fun and happy Baja experience for everyone... That 1973 section of the highway was NOT
designed for bikes to ride on. (period).
[Edited on 1-28-2014 by David K] |
I do believe that 40 YEAR OLD SIGN says it all!
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MMc
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You guys don't get it!!! The folks riding the road don't read this site....... You will never understand their point of view. Complaining about it on
this board is wasting time and preaching to the believers, This was going a week ago. Time to move on, we have this talk about this time every year.
Goat, when was the last time you drove more then 100 miles south? I don't think you go to Baja at all anymore? A point of view on a place you don't go
to does not count. At lease DK go's south a couple times per year, not enough to justify his postings but he goes.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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| Quote: | Originally posted by msawin
max speed Hyw ! 48 miles an hour.....
When is the last time YOU did it?? |
You break the law and lack common consideration for the public, that's why you are a menace to pedestrians, cows, dogs, children, bicyclists,...
Anybody is in danger when your selfish self leaves the driveway!
Share the road! You don't own it! Your right to use the road does not trump everyone else's right to use the road!
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
Looks like it would be easier to pass a bicyclist than a boat to me. Thanks for hammering that point home David. |
Can you answer the simple question? Seems most here get it... you do like to single my replies out, I notice...???
The highway is being widened, but in the sections that are still only 19' wide with NO shoulder and a cliff or drop-off, it is dangerous to ride your
bike. Would you let your children ride on it?
Now we have a confirmed fatality... Is insisting on some 'right' to be on the highway worth the pain, torment and death doing so causes? Can it wait,
can you ride another section instead?
Edit:
Zac, I am not whining, I am trying to be an advocate of a fun and happy Baja experience for everyone... That 1973 section of the highway was NOT
designed for bikes to ride on. (period).
[Edited on 1-28-2014 by David K] |
David, I must be slow tonight....I don't see where on the sign it says that bikes are forbidden on the highway. I do notice that its says not to
drive fast.
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msawin
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I am a menace. . You do not even know who I am.
What a shame. Rest in peace.
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mtgoat666
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[Edited on 1-28-2014 by BajaNomad]
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bajadogs
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I messed up the quotes in the reply so it is easier for me to answer DK's question (s)
DK: Can you answer the simple question?
BAJADOGS: I already answered it on the first page of this thread. Pay attention.
DK: Seems most here get it... you do like to single my replies out, I notice...???
BAJADOGS: I hadn't noticed.
DK: The highway is being widened, but in the sections that are still only 19' wide with NO shoulder and a cliff or drop-off, it is dangerous to ride
your bike. Would you let your children ride on it?
BAJADOGS: No. There are too many careless drivers who don't pay attention.
DK: Now we have a confirmed fatality... Is insisting on some 'right' to be on the highway worth the pain, torment and death doing so causes?
BAJADOGS: WOW!! It IS a right. A vast majority of bicyclist I've safely passed are residents of Baja riding to and from work/school/shopping. Nobody
is insisting on anything, they are just trying to make a living. Speaking of pain torment and death, did you spectate the Baja1000 again?
DK: Can it wait, can you ride another section instead?
BAJADOGS: That's a 2-question run-on. I don't ride a bicycle on the 1. Pay attention.
Please answer one question for me DavidK. What is the easiest to pass and why; a slow RV towing a Tacoma, a herd of cows (or goats or horses or
donkeys), a broken down trailer carrying a boat, or a bicycle?
That's just one question.
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güero
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Wow, I missed most of this post and probably won't go back and read it all but if you want my thoughts, which I'm sure most of you don't, here are a
few of them: Riding a bicycle on Highway 1 down or up the Baja is not a sharp idea, especially taking a child with you like I passed a week ago.
Riding a bicycle anywhere is dangerous and if the other vehicles on the road are going 50 plus miles per hour without a shoulder, don't go there. What
do I know though, I quit riding a bicycle years ago when it seemed like it was getting to risky. I agree with David and the rest that say the highway
was not built for bicycles, it was built for motorized vehicles going north and south.
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BornFisher
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Hey guys who live in a fantasy world---Highway 1 is full of bad drivers. It will take many martyrs to change that. Keep advocating if you feel the
need, but remember to always let someone else die for your cause.
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wessongroup
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BIKING ON THE ROAD
Ride to the Right, But Within Limits - When riding slower than the normal speed of traffic, you are required to ride as far right as “practicable”
(meaning safe). You are not required to ride as far right as possible, which may not be safe. You are allowed, but not required, to ride on the
shoulder. CVC 21202, CVC 21650, CVC 21650.1
Take the Lane - If a travel lane is too narrow to safely share side by side with a motor vehicle, you can prevent unsafe passing by riding near the
center of the lane. On two-lane roads where it’s illegal or unsafe to pass, you must turn off the roadway at a designated or safe location to allow a
line of 5 or more vehicles behind you to pass. CVC 21202 (a)(3), CVC 21656
Good luck with this 
will only say, that when around 14 .... riding a bike was about the same as cutting one's throat ... from a "social" standpoint ... just saying
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DavidE
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Pants Color: Coffee
Shirt Color: Gray
Bike Color: Black
Outcome: Darwin
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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joerover
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10. Practice kindness:
10. Practice kindness:
Dr. Leon James, a.k.a. "Dr. Driving" and author of Road Rage and Aggressive Driving, says that remembering simple courtesies, like allowing someone to
merge or apologizing when we make a mistake, can go a long way in making the driving experience positive for ourselves and others. His basic motto is
the old "do unto others" rule: Treat fellow drivers how you would like to be treated. As additional incentive, reducing your aggressiveness on the
road can also keep you out of serious trouble: Several states have created special law enforcement teams to seek out and cite aggressive drivers.
Depending on the frequency of offenses, violators may be fined, lose their license temporarily or even face jail time. Often, they are required to
take a behavior-modification class as well.
We're all bound to lose our cool at some point, but by planning ahead and keeping things in perspective, we can prevent our emotions from getting the
best of us. Putting aggressive driving in park will help to ensure your own safety, as well as the safety of everyone around you.
Dr. Leon James, a.k.a. "Dr. Driving" and author of Road Rage and Aggressive Driving, says that remembering simple courtesies, like allowing someone to
merge or apologizing when we make a mistake, can go a long way in making the driving experience positive for ourselves and others. His basic motto is
the old "do unto others" rule: Treat fellow drivers how you would like to be treated. As additional incentive, reducing your aggressiveness on the
road can also keep you out of serious trouble: Several states have created special law enforcement teams to seek out and cite aggressive drivers.
Depending on the frequency of offenses, violators may be fined, lose their license temporarily or even face jail time. Often, they are required to
take a behavior-modification class as well.
We're all bound to lose our cool at some point, but by planning ahead and keeping things in perspective, we can prevent our emotions from getting the
best of us. Putting aggressive driving in park will help to ensure your own safety, as well as the safety of everyone around you.
[Edited on 1-30-2014 by joerover]
the fat lady is breeding
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joerover
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road rage "involves a criminal act of violence
Top 10 Tips To Prevent Road Rage
Republished: 05/12/2009 (Original Date: 04/14/2006)
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Recently, a roadside billboard showed an infuriated driver screaming at the car ahead of her while her toddler observed from the backseat. The tag
line said, "She learns by watching you."
Like most people, I figured the anti-road rage advertisement didn't apply to me. I'm a decent, courteous driver, right? Yet it was only a few minutes
before I found myself shouting "Go, lady!" at the driver in front of me, who took more than 3 seconds to react to a green light. As if on cue, my
5-year-old in the backseat said, "Beep at her, Mama!" Was I on my way to becoming a member of the "road rage club"? How is road rage different from
good old "aggressive driving," anyway?
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) states that road rage "involves a criminal act of violence, whereas aggressive driving can
range from tailgating to speeding to running red lights." The number of deaths related to road rage is difficult to track, but NHTSA estimates that
aggressive driving accounts for about one-third of all crashes and about two-thirds of the resulting fatalities.
Increasingly congested roadways are a growing source of driver frustration, but studies suggest the real root of aggressive driving lies within each
of us. Drivers can cope by taking an honest look at their driving behavior and attempting to reduce their stress level behind the wheel.
1. Get your Zs.
A national epidemic of sleepiness is a contributing factor to road rage, according to the National Sleep Foundation. We all know how cranky we get
without enough sleep. It makes us prone to feelings of annoyance, resentment and even anger. Eight hours is still the recommended daily dose of sleep
for adults.
2. Plan ahead.
Do you regularly whiz through your morning routine in a whirlwind of chaos, trying to make up time while on the road? Do you allow just enough time to
drive to an appointment? Then you're probably also more prone to a lead foot and a lost temper. If you add 10 minutes to your expected travel time,
you'll have time to stop for gas, safely navigate those snowy roads or detour around road construction. Also, try preparing clothing, briefcases,
children's school bags and lunches the night before to minimize your morning rush. Extra time equals calmer driving.
3. Your car is not a therapist.
Many of us love and identify with our cars (part of why Edmunds.com launched CarSpace), but sometimes you can take the "car as extension of self" idea
too seriously. If your boss or your spouse left you steaming, take care not to use driving as a way to blow off steam. Competitive types (you know who
you are) shouldn't try to prove themselves on heavily traveled thoroughfares — save that enthusiasm for weekend romps on your favorite back roads. No
matter how much power you've got under the hood, your vehicle is first and foremost a mode of transportation, not a weapon.
4. Turn down the bass.
Without getting into the argument over "aggressive music makes people aggressive," it makes sense that listening to relaxing music — or even a comedy
channel on satellite radio — will make you less pumped up for action than a driving bass line. Try tuning in to classical or jazz to reduce stress. Or
listen to an audiobook. (Here are our Top 10 Audiobooks to get you started.) Either way will also help drown out stressful traffic noise.
5. Loosen up, then breathe:
If you notice yourself clenching the steering wheel in a death grip, try flexing your fingers and loosening your hold — you'll find that you can
control the car just as well. If your right foot is cramped, set the cruise control if traffic allows. If you're on a prolonged road trip, try not to
exceed three hours of travel time without a break where you get out and stretch. Struggling to see through a dirty windshield is also an unnecessary
stress factor, so fill up with washer fluid before you go. Periodically roll down the window and breathe deeply and slowly.
6. It's not about you.
Perhaps another driver cut you off. Or the car in front of you is braking erratically. Before you assume the driver is getting off on your rising
anger levels, realize that you, as an individual, are not the target. Perhaps the driver simply made a mistake or was just being oblivious. Maybe
there's a screaming baby, a loose pet or a crazed bee in the car. Maybe he was on a cell phone. The point is, don't take things so personally.
7. Hostility is toxic. And risky.
People most prone to anger are almost three times more likely to have a heart attack than those with low anger, according to the American
Psychological Association. Other health risks seen in those who display hostility include obesity, depression and stroke. Wow, who knew? Safe driving
promotes healthy hearts! Not only will giving into anger not resolve an irritating situation, it can increase the risk of retaliation. Think to
yourself, "Is making my point worth endangering my life?" If all else fails, do a mental 180 and try to laugh it off.
8. Use restaurant etiquette.
While it's upsetting when a stranger is rude or cuts in line in a restaurant or store, most folks wouldn't lose their cool and become abusive as a
result. It isn't only because they have good manners. Driving a car makes people feel more isolated and protected, allowing them to act in ways they
would normally find embarrassing. So when another driver acts like a jerk, respond as though you're in a restaurant. And we don't mean Chuck E.
Cheese's.
9. Take the self-test.
Classes designed to help curb aggressive driving often have participants tape-record themselves while driving. Hearing themselves swear or rant on
tape is enough of a wake-up call for them to recognize and reduce dangerous behavior. So try analyzing your driving. Do any of the following
statements sound like you?
- I regularly exceed the speed limit in order to get to work on time.
- I tailgate other drivers, especially those who sit in the left lane.
- I flash my lights and honk my horn to let drivers know when they annoy me.
- I verbally abuse other drivers whether they can hear me or not.
- I frequently weave in and out of traffic to get ahead.
- I feel the need to set bad drivers straight.
If you answered "yes" to any of these questions, your driving may qualify as aggressive. The American Institute for Public Safety (AIPS) has a more
detailed RoadRageous Test that determines if your driving habits fall under the "aggressive zone," "hostile zone" or — worse yet — "war zone."
10. Practice kindness:
Dr. Leon James, a.k.a. "Dr. Driving" and author of Road Rage and Aggressive Driving, says that remembering simple courtesies, like allowing someone to
merge or apologizing when we make a mistake, can go a long way in making the driving experience positive for ourselves and others. His basic motto is
the old "do unto others" rule: Treat fellow drivers how you would like to be treated. As additional incentive, reducing your aggressiveness on the
road can also keep you out of serious trouble: Several states have created special law enforcement teams to seek out and cite aggressive drivers.
Depending on the frequency of offenses, violators may be fined, lose their license temporarily or even face jail time. Often, they are required to
take a behavior-modification class as well.
We're all bound to lose our cool at some point, but by planning ahead and keeping things in perspective, we can prevent our emotions from getting the
best of us. Putting aggressive driving in park will help to ensure your own safety, as well as the safety of everyone around you.
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the fat lady is breeding
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hit the brakes
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some body cut and paste this photo
maybe the pill poppers will hit the brakes if they remember that kids ride bikes
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mtgoat666
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slow down
share the road
be nice
peace out!
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joerover
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when you see a bicyce
HIT THE BRAKES
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