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John Harper
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We know you got the vaccine, and it would appear that the only adverse side effect you experienced was hypocrisy. |
Unfortunately, it appears to be a chronic affliction with this knucklehead.
John
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gnukid
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Denial, defiant ignorance, arrogance, are all signs of cognitive dissonance, while science requires skepticism, re-evaluation, evolution, errors
interpretation, with an open mind.
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | | Denial, defiant ignorance, arrogance, are all signs of cognitive dissonance, while science requires skepticism, re-evaluation, evolution, errors
interpretation, with an open mind. |
I haven't really kept up with this discussion, kid can you just sum up your thoughts in a nutshell? and have you gotten the vaccine?
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mtgoat666
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“Denial, defiant ignorance, arrogance”
That sure does describe you, Paul.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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gnukid
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Each person can make up their mind to choose an experimental drug, unapproved, with no liability for manufacturers, for healthy people, that has
demonstrably resulted in hundreds of thousands of injuries per country and deaths, or focus on successful health that we know works, healthy diet,
fresh soups, veggies, fruits, 90 essential vitamins, minerals and amino acids, fresh air, sunshine, exercise, rest and social engagement. Your body
your choice.
You can rely on successful experience or take an unnecessary gamble with manufacturers who have a long troubled history of fraud and harm, that
promises to permanently alter your body in an irreversible way, altering how your immune system works based on an untested theory with no data set to
support efficacy.
Your body your choice, my body my choice.
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motoged
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Vaccine Disparities
A bit of a global perspective is important:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-pandemic-vaccine-canada-covax-1.6036876
Don't believe everything you think....
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JZ
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Covid is over. Let's move on.
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motoged
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Wishing or pretending doesn't make things go away. Informed individuals will see that Covid is continuing to significantly spread around many places
on the planet....and variants are brewing. Vaccinations and efforts to minimize the viral spread are key efforts to manage the virus....because it is
NOT going away.
It's difficult to stay focussed on important issues if one has the attention span of a gnat and an unquenchable need for self-adulation to support
their denial.
[Edited on 5-24-2021 by motoged]
[Edited on 5-24-2021 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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Far from over, more cases worldwide so far this year, than all last year. Would not want to be in India, Uruguay, Colombia, Peru, and soon the African
continent and large parts of Asia.
As long as there are regions in the world with high rates of infection, the threat lives on with the ability to mutate and travel.
The planet is a small place anymore.
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Si pues, y Cuba tambien.
Yes, Cuba also. They have just begun vaccinating health folks on the island with their own developed "Abdala" vaccine, according to friends in
Camaguey. Cuba has been determined to create a vaccine on their own and to eventually, if effective, distribute it to poorer countries around the
world free of charge. They are currently working on five different kinds of vaccines in their well established labs.
And you think it's been tough on you......
The lockdown is going on 15 months now there with very little commerce, and next to no tourism, short of very limited direct travel to the Cayos and
Veradero. There is almost no local transport, and as a result food is limited. My engineer friend has been working on a part time basis from home the
entire time. Food lines, when one can get out, are as bad as the Special Period, when the Soviet Union withdrew subsidies.
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gnueys fundamemntal problem is he doesn't understand first grade math.
He has no concern for 600,000, as in people dead from Covid in the United states,
Yet he is running around screaming the sky is falling about how dangerous getting the vaccine is - while there have been very few if any deaths
confirmed that the vaccine contributed to.
so Paul - which is bigger - 600,000? or 3?
there have been over 4000 deaths reported after people took the vaccine - each and every one of those has been closely examined, and in almost all
of those cases - no link was found
(that number included my mother BTW - who passed a few days after getting the vaccine - her death was not unexpected, as congenital heart disease
took her down -the vaccine had nothing to do with it
here it is from the CDC Paul - let me know if you need a translator to explain it to you, or if I need to type slower so you can understand it!
Over 285 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through May 24, 2021. During this time,
VAERS received 4,863 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death
as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information, including death
certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal
relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused
deaths. Get the latest safety information on the J&J/Janssen vaccine. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events,
including deaths, reported to VAERS.
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A Funny Thing Happened Last Night .................
........... When (in his NC diatribe) the Insurrectionist-in-Chief took credit for the Vaccine development. The smattering of anemic
applause may have indicated how well he had indoctrinated his cult following in rejecting vaccinations.
On the other hand, the Loonies delivered their most enthusiastic response when the Seditionist vowed total war against the evil of
Critical Race Theory.
You can never go wrong taking the Racist route with that crowd.
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surabi
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | or focus on successful health that we know works, healthy diet, fresh soups, veggies, fruits, 90 essential vitamins, minerals and amino acids, fresh
air, sunshine, exercise, rest and social engagement.
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I guess you're not aware that Native Americans ate real, healthy, unadulterated diets, got plenty of fresh air and sunshine, rest, exercise, and
social engagement and still got wiped out by smallpox.
I imagine that's an inconvenient truth for you.
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by surabi]
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Repeating that ad nauseum doesn't make it true. Ask the folks in India, Brazil, Peru, if it's "over". Baja just regressed from yellow to orange on the
case map. That's what happens when people think and act like it's over.
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Here is USA, the average gringo is covid-stupid. The covid rates wil climb again this coming fall or winter.
The current drop in numbers is due to the minority of gringos that got vaccinated and practice good covid hygeine. The covid disease continues to
simmer at low levels in the reservoir of covid-stupid people (aka Trump’s base)
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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FWIW, just heard on the morning news that 41% of Americans have been fully vaccinated and the vaccination centers are seeing many fewer people than 2
months ago.
Also, a Texas hospital that requires its workers to be vaccinated is being sued by workers who do not want to be vaccinated.
It's difficult for me to understand why folks aren't getting vaccinated.
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by SFandH]
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gnukid
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | or focus on successful health that we know works, healthy diet, fresh soups, veggies, fruits, 90 essential vitamins, minerals and amino acids, fresh
air, sunshine, exercise, rest and social engagement.
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I guess you're not aware that Native Americans ate real, healthy, unadulterated diets, got plenty of fresh air and sunshine, rest, exercise, and
social engagement and still got wiped out by smallpox.
I imagine that's an inconvenient truth for you.
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by surabi] |
Native Americans were intentionally poisoned with highly toxic laced blankets, reportedly.
I imagine that's an inconvenient truth for you, though, they weren't wiped out.
Many hundreds of Native American nations persist today throughout the Americas with a population of millions.
It's interesting how poorly educated and informed you are, yet, arrogant.
It's unclear if you are proud that some missionaries and colonists intentionally poisoned Native Americans and are bragging about it as some sort of
victory or if you are trying to support a theory that a vaccination exists to solve racial and political struggles?
Speaking of myths, the theory of bacterias and germs flying through the air to cause of viral infections began thousands of years ago, and yet, it's
still theory that has yet to be proven.
Even Pasteur admitted on his death bed, the virus is nothing, the (human) terrain is everything. He was a self admitted fraud.
Take a moment and try to research what is a virus, what is a corona virus and see where you land? Is it common, normal, human cellular degradation
that will never go away, just as the common cold is a corona virus. What is gain of function research? Why did we fund broad gain of function research
of Corona Virus with preplanned vaccination program, with foreknowledge, simulations, virus patents, vaccine patents, all under programs led by Fauci
and Gates with collusion of main stream media and BigTech?
Fauci's gain of function is not unlike poisoning Native Americans with toxins, neither of which are proof of natural transmissible virus as risk to
humans, both are intentional bioweapons.
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by gnukid]
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Injun Diets ?
How healthy were they ?
Any data on what the average lifespan was for the aborigine population prior to the Whitey arrival ?
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Jon Rahm got vaccinated but only after coming in contact with an infected person.....had he got the shot earlier he would be 1.67 million dollars
richer. im convinced life is all timing and luck! 
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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There's vast published evidence that a large number of Native Americans were vaccinated against SmallPox under a Federal program in 1832, that
precipitated their deaths from SmallPox.
Something that SHOULD be clear, is that arrogance and ignorance are prevalent among a certain cultural group... in addition, the historical narrative
is often not accurate, one must take time to investigate, gather anecdotes and data and hold multiple ideas to form theories, before coming to an
accepted conclusion.
In the case with Native American History, there is a great deal of misinformation and misunderstanding due to lack of documented history. We are
working to resolve this by gathering evidence, anecdotes, verifying and sharing this history in Cultural Centers and schools to question history,
validate and clarify our Native American patrimony.
Such is the case with virus theory, there is a long, many thousand year history to promote bacterias and flying aerosol virus as the cause of viral
illness, yet, very little documentation supports this, versus, lack of nutrition, human behavior and toxic environment as a cause of common types of
illness, known as the human terrain.
In, fact, here is evidence that Native Indians were under a Federal smallpox vaccination program in 1832 that precipitated broad infection from
smallpox, not unlike other vaccination programs today.
How Native Americans were vaccinated against smallpox, then pushed off their land
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/03/28/native-ame...
Furthermore, from the Bureau of Indian Affiairs, from a letter written in 1837, "Pilcher advocated to Clark that an extended vaccination program
should be initiated to stem the epidemic. Pilcher noted of his vaccination plan that: "it is a verry delicate experiment among those wild Indians,
because death from any other cause, while under the influence of Vaccination would be attributed to that + no other cause[.]"
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the...
1832: U.S. vaccinates Native peoples on the frontier against smallpox
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/282.html
More about SmallPox Vaccine - The Most Dangerous Vaccine
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-most-dangerous-vaccine/
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by gnukid]
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