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[*] posted on 1-2-2024 at 10:27 PM


PB,

Feel free to post your commendation(s). I guess you can’t even if you have any. The people you dish shade on from the shadows would know who you are. You might want to check where most of the Navy personnel come from. They have a lot more in common with me than thee. As do most of the others who serve their country.

You might also want to consider just how high up the food chain permission to take a very expensive ship out of commission for 2 weeks would have to come from and how highly the Navy valued the result. But then, the commendation does describe that if you bothered to read it.
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 05:35 AM


I suppose you are correct. How dare i compare my 16 months in viet nam to your heroic 2 weeks working on a film in southern California. You are a regular f-ing American hero. I'm embarrassed for your clumsy attempt at stolen valor. Shame on you.
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 07:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
PB,

Feel free to post your commendation(s). I guess you can’t even if you have any. The people you dish shade on from the shadows would know who you are. You might want to check where most of the Navy personnel come from. They have a lot more in common with me than thee. As do most of the others who serve their country.

You might also want to consider just how high up the food chain permission to take a very expensive ship out of commission for 2 weeks would have to come from and how highly the Navy valued the result. But then, the commendation does describe that if you bothered to read it.


Thank you for your service! :lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 09:35 AM


hey Jimmy got one too! they put his name on his though.





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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 10:19 AM


DP,

Read much? Different words, different award!

PB,

It was actually a 2 1/2 year project, not 2 weeks. If you served at the pointy end of things you deserve credit like my Cousin who served in WW2 and was killed in Luxembourg 80 years ago this coming Saturday. Those who perform that service deserve our special thanks and you have mine.

The others who supported you by cooking, delivering supplies, repairing
equipment at depots and kept the carrier AC that supported you flying also served. Without them and all those at home who designed and manufactured everything you required your experience would have been very different.

The Navy imbeds a large number of civilian specialists shipboard. They maintain the specialized electronics and other systems that are the purpose of those ships. The CIC (combat information center) is the “brain” of a warship.

Performing “brain surgery” on that group of systems is normally above the pay grade of the shipboard crew who maintain them. Normally unless they have access to people who understand the systems as systems.

The benefit to the Navy for taking this risk is based on the fact that in an all volunteer military the Navy competes for qualified personnel who can maintain and operate their ships. What those of us who worked on this project did and I had done in the past, in the opinion of the Navy was of great assistance in achieving that goal.

While I did not serve in combat the Navy Secretary felt that we were of service to the navy. No more and also no less.
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 10:28 AM


We have crossed the Rubicon!
Over 100 pages of of a broken record repeating itself day after day.
Its an interesting ride to say the least.




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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 10:34 AM


Cliffy,

This stopped being about more than hate by some against those they disagree with a long time ago. It will get worse as this year goes by. The good news is no mater what more people will move to Mexico.
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 10:38 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
We have crossed the Rubicon!
Over 100 pages of of a broken record repeating itself day after day.
Its an interesting ride to say the least.


I wonder how many pages of this "Off Topic light" thread Doug has deleted along the way?




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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 11:09 AM


Hundreds! 👍
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 01:09 PM


Why do chicken hawks like to mention the military service of relatives? As if they get credit for shared DNA?
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 01:30 PM


No, because he’s a close relative the anniversary of whose death is coming up Saturday. I actually visited where he’s buried. Same place as Patton. Want me to prove it?

Just because you served in Vietnam doesn’t immunize you against being a Jerk!

[Edited on 1-3-2024 by RFClark]
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 02:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
Why do chicken hawks like to mention the military service of relatives? As if they get credit for shared DNA?


Not credit necessarily but distinguished family history? Right up there. There's some pride in that. Clark has some bragging rights, as does JZ, me, PacBob, nice.

I think combat Vets are touchy. Getting mortared most days can do that.

Let's move on. Carry on.








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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 02:51 PM
Something strange is happening in the Pacific and we must find out why



Unexpectedly, the eastern Pacific Ocean is cooling. If this “cold tongue” continues, it could reduce greenhouse gas warming by 30 per cent – but also bring megadrought to the US

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25934500-100-somethin...

Lee,

Thanks, the past is important!
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 05:46 PM


As a government contractor I have been on a number of milcon project teams that received awards from DOD.

I deserve a medal and parade!




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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 06:34 PM


OSG,

With band music? (Think Kovatch from “The Inspector General” 1949 here)
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 06:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Lee  


Not credit necessarily but distinguished family history? Right up there. There's some pride in that.




Isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins? Funny how people always talk about being proud of this or that, but no one ever talks about themselves being gluttonous, envious, lustful, slothful, wrathful or greedy, as if it were a good thing.

[Edited on 1-4-2024 by surabi]
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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 09:31 PM


Hey, I'm lustful and damn proud of it.



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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 11:38 PM


The one who corrects OP’s grammar and spelling but can’t parse simple English sentences is down on the use of the word “pride”. Go figure! English is far more difficult to use correctly than most native speakers think. “I’m proud of you for helping the old woman across the street” is not the definition of “sinful pride”!

Harry Callahan is credited with saying “a man has got to know his limitations!” Including how you think you’ll respond to those “deadly sins” among other things. Some never are able to do that. The over and under on understanding our limitations is a wide spread.

That said ordinary people suddenly placed in extreme circumstances can sometimes do the impossible. Those who survive often find it hard to deal with the “pride” aspect of being thought of as a “hero”.

We are proud of and even hold them in awe because they give us hope we would try to do as well in a similar circumstance.

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[*] posted on 1-4-2024 at 09:11 AM


"Dirty Harry" was smart beyond his educational level :-)
He was a wise and perceptual man.

As was the Rev. Lawrence Shannon and his seminal piece- The Predatory Female (A Field Guide to Dating and the Marriage-Divorce Industry) but I digress.

There also those who, today, believe that unless one has an advanced degree they are incapable of reading and understanding complex missives in Law, Science or Medicine. To wit, those so accused are also incapable of forming a coherent counter argument to current headlines.

In the word "elitism" it is interesting to note that its period of peak usage in the English language was around 2018. Its been in a slight decline since then.
I wonder if it has anything to do with recent revelations on certain drugs and their effectivity (as postulated by those of "less education" ) on recent illnesses. Those people who were pilloried were generally and specifically excluded from the discussion because they were not part of the "elite" in the science world.

There are plenty of stupid PhD's in the world.




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[*] posted on 1-4-2024 at 11:09 AM


Cliffy,

Generalists know nothing about everything. At the other end of the spectrum PhDs know everything about nothing.

The better engineers are always mindful that Murphy and his sister Rosie (scenario) will always review their work on a pass/fail basis. The occasional pass only being conditional.

In the real world unlike the education system everyone doesn’t get an “award” for just showing up.
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