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surabi
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Thanks for proving my point. Anything outside the bubble of your own anecdotal experience is "BS" and you don't care about the rest of the world.
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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  | | Thanks for proving my point. Anything outside the bubble of your own anecdotal experience is "BS" and you don't care about the rest of the world.
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Oh, you having no roots and spending a couple of years in different places qualifies you as a local with special knowledge that none of us are privy
to. Yeah, ok.... fkia.
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surabi
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The devastating consequences of climate change to people and animal, crops, and the environment that are happening all over the world are readily
available to learn about to anyone who is interested. It has nothing to do with special knowledge that someone is privy to or where they are local to.
It's called educating oneself. An alien concept to those who prefer to be told what to believe and to those who don't care about anything that
doesn't directly affect them in the moment.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | The devastating consequences of climate change to people and animal, crops, and the environment that are happening all over the world are readily
available to learn about to anyone who is interested. It has nothing to do with special knowledge that someone is privy to or where they are local to.
It's called educating oneself. An alien concept to those who prefer to be told what to believe and to those who don't care about anything that
doesn't directly affect them in the moment.
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This thread is about the palm tree and the evidence shows it is in NO DANGER. Stop the panic.
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I am certain it is NOT the same palm tree(s) in the various photos. And I do have the credentials to make that determination. Somebody is just
having fun at the Forum's expense.
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| Quote: Originally posted by oxxo |
I am certain it is NOT the same palm tree(s) in the various photos. And I do have the credentials to make that determination. Somebody is just
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Pues wow!
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The latest on CO2 removal along with one of the fastest growing producers...you guessed right, Microsoft
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/occidental-clinches-record...
Lets examine this: Energy saving computers spawned Microsoft, which spawned Google, which spawned AI, which has become the biggest fastest growing
energy hog. So the fossil fuel producers are being hired to remove the resultant CO2 all that energy demand is creating!
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My employer has been researching the use of natural processes to reduce carbon dioxide. I'm still not sure what I think of tinkering with what's been in place for millions of years, but no one asked me!
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Up here in Alberta Canada. we have about 20 at present large CCS projects lined up for regulatory approval in addition to the ones already in place.
They are a bit different as they extract the CO2 from processes, ship in pipelines and store in deep underground caverns. This particular one funded
by MSFT seems a bit extreme and energy intensive in comparison.
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Best of intentions.... and unintended consequences.
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Google admits its going backwards on its pledge of Carbon neutrality
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-destroyed-google-promis...
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AI is a crock today. Ask a question, you get a response based info on the internet. Info on the internet is often wrong, for example AI might read
this thread and thinks scientists measure sea level with vacation snapshots of palm trees. I routinely challenge AI to answer engineering questions.
AI usually misses the mark.
Try asking AI to answer zoning and building code questions - AI fails, cant figure out what is applicable, cant interpret how to apply code to real
life.
Have you seen those AI chat bots that pop up on every vendors website? Their answers are pathetic.
You want answers to what you need in life, then do your own research, hire a pro, or pick up the phone and talk to a human that knows their chit.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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For all you folks making excuses for why it's pointless to reduce your carbon footprint because China and India are the biggest polluters- you are
conveniently ignoring a key fact when it comes to personal responsibility. China has a population of over 1.4 billion, India has the same. The US has
a population of 333 million.
When it comes to per capita carbon footprint, China and India rank far below other countries. The top polluter per capita is Qatar, followed by
several other Middle Eastern countries. Then comes Australia, then the US and Canada.
The Middle Eastern countries top the list due to heavy dependence on fossil fuels, low levels of environmental education, and extravagant lifestyles
of the rich, many of whom profit from the fossil fuel industry.
Australia, the US and Canada are high on the list due to the fact that we are the highest consumers of resources per capita to maintain our cushy
lifestyles, heavy dependence on fossil fuels and resistance to alternative energy funding.
China and India are heavy overall polluters because of their manufacturing to supply the world market that clamors for cheap goods made with cheap
labor, not because the native populations have a high carbon footprint.
European countries have a lower per capita carbon footprint because they have excellent public transport, which people use extensively, they have many
alternative energy projects, and people are educated and care about reducing emissions.
So stop with the BS excuses for not curbing your consumption and addiction to fossil fuels "because it won't make a difference". The average Chinese
or Indian has a way lower carbon footprint than those in rich countries.
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I beg to differ. I think AI is a great development.
https://www.perplexity.ai/ answers your question AND provides links to the source(s) of the information.
I just used it to get information about password management software. In particular, I wanted information about the legacy provisions of the different
applications. It did a good job of comparing and contrasting the various options.
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Once again we're off topic here, but here goes. The biggest problem I have with AI is it's dumbing down our exceptional human reasoning skills. What
we used to call common sense is based on our personal and ancestral experiences (some would call those prejudices). In animals we call it instinct.
This keeps us healthy and safe despite what temporary preferred societal demands are placed upon us. It also leads to evolutionary survival of the
fittest in a rapidly changing world. Diversity of our sense of whats right in any different situation is what leads to long term survival. All
animals have this same capacity built into their makeup and either adapt or are extinguished.
How do we teach that to a machine based on binary true/false reasoning that will eventually be driving acceptable behaviours?
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Surabi: So stop with the BS excuses for not curbing your consumption and addiction to fossil fuels "because it won't make a difference". The average
Chinese or Indian has a way lower carbon footprint than those in rich countries.
Those who have visited those Asian countries have also noted they typically cook on solid fuel fires(briquets or wood), which I'm pretty sure is not
calculated in their countries' carbon footprint. Dinner time in Cambodia is a killer in producing not just CO2 but particulates as well. It's
estimated by a Swedish study there are over 1 million deaths per year caused by that one factor of pollution alone. There are readily available stop
gaps to avoid all those unnecessary deaths and pollution, but they require much cleaner alternatives.
While in Mexico, most people cook on CO2 producing gas, I still see a lot of poorer people burning much more polluting waste wood to do their cooking.
Perhaps we should start there, then work our way through gas stoves to cleaner electric. La Paz just took a major step ahead by purchasing the
recently built combined cycle gas power plant running at 60% or better efficiency to replace their typical diesel fuel generators. It's not solar,
hydro or windpower, but its at least 1/3 the CO2 let alone other Sulfur Oxides, NOx and particulates of what they have been installing per unit of
energy. Here it is, with pictorial description:
https://constructionreviewonline.com/construction-projects/c...
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Climate radicals attack Tesla Center in Hamburg, Germany.
https://youtube.com/shorts/67_3MSERu6Y?si=z_KrK9_aL6gXaRy_
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While I don't approve of these sorts of acts of vandalism and think it is very much the wrong way for climate activists to go about rallying support,
just because Musk produces EVs doesn't mean that targeting his business makes no sense.
"Musk's carbon footprint from his 171 private flights in 2022 was 132 times the size of the average US resident's total annual footprint from all
activities, the report found. His private plane burned about 221,358 gallons of jet fuel and emitted about 2,112 metric tons of carbon emissions last
year, the report found."
Musk's self-promotion as someone who cares about the environment and the future of humanity is just smoke and mirrors. He's just another billionnaire
businessman with no conscience.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | While I don't approve of these sorts of acts of vandalism and think it is very much the wrong way for climate activists to go about rallying support,
just because Musk produces EVs doesn't mean that targeting his business makes no sense.
"Musk's carbon footprint from his 171 private flights in 2022 was 132 times the size of the average US resident's total annual footprint from all
activities, the report found. His private plane burned about 221,358 gallons of jet fuel and emitted about 2,112 metric tons of carbon emissions last
year, the report found."
Musk's self-promotion as someone who cares about the environment and the future of humanity is just smoke and mirrors. He's just another billionnaire
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If his pushing e cars causes millions of people to reduce their carbon footprint, then perhaps his personal jet carbon footprint is offest by the
carbon footprint reduction he caused in others, eh?
I am all for a few people using private jets if their impact in fighting climate change is much greater than their personal impact. Like john kerry,
he jets around to spread his message, and fight the good fight, and his overall impact is beneficial. 
The complainers cant afford private jet travel, and their message is inconsequential, so the complainers are just peeing in the wind
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Woke!
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Except Musk is nothing like John Kerry and isn't jetting around to spread a message on climate change- he is jetting around to his various businesses,
on private vacations, and taking ridiculously short flights (like 9 minutes), when if he actually cared about climate change he would drive one of his
EVs on a 10 mile trip, wouldn't he?
And you are suggesting that reductions in carbon footprints be counted twice? A twofer? The Tesla purchaser gets to claim that lowered carbon emission
footprint and then that same exact reduction is also credited to the manufacturer?
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