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BajaRun
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What's the next step after the vaccinated start to test positive ?
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mtgoat666
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The Delta variant is so contagious, those unprotected will likely get it, a Trump administration FDA chief says
(CNN) Millions of Americans are jeopardizing their health, freedom and finances by not getting vaccinated and putting themselves at risk of the most
infectious coronavirus strain yet, current and former federal health officials say.
"Most people will either get vaccinated, or have been previously infected, or they will get this Delta variant," Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CBS' "Face
the Nation" on Sunday.
"And for most people who get this Delta variant, it's going to be the most serious virus that they get in their lifetime in terms of the risk of
putting them in the hospital," said Gottlieb, who was commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration during the Trump administration.
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Ateo
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Boosters!
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John Harper
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Fresh air and organic food?
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SFandH
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Going back to behaving as though you're not vaccinated and everybody else is infected.
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Skipjack Joe
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Nothing. Your chances of dying after vaccination is virtually nil. Virtually all covid hospitalizations are now from unvaccinated delta variant
infections.
Despite losing 550,000 people to covid we are extremely, extremely lucky that the delta variant made it's appearance when 60% of Americans are
vaccinated. We dodged a bullet on that one.
Those living in Baja should try to get the mRNA vaccine if possible.
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That depends on how old you are and what kind of shape you're in. Plus, and this is what worries me, the delta variant is increasing the number of
infections which increases the chance of a more deadly mutation. The virus is always mutating and most mutations are harmless........Most.
I'm not letting my guard down even though I'm vaccinated.
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
That depends on how old you are and what kind of shape you're in. Plus, and this is what worries me, the delta variant is increasing the number of
infections which increases the chance of a more deadly mutation. The virus is always mutating and most mutations are harmless........Most.
I'm not letting my guard down even though I'm vaccinated. |
Sure. Better safe than sorry. A mask protects others more than the wearer.
New variants will now sprout from unvaccinated countries and come here. We're not out of the woods yet. We'll never eradicate this scourge. There will
be boosters and more boosters.
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This is an informative interview done today with Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a former FDA commissioner and now a member of the board of Pfizer. He speaks
about the current infection rate, the vaccine wearing off with time, the possible need for boosters, and other related issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlAhPUHtsHw
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we are only 19 days into July - it is already the deadliest month for us in BCS. Looks like we'll finish around 400.
Harald Pietschmann
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | we are only 19 days into July - it is already the deadliest month for us in BCS. Looks like we'll finish around 400.
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Something has certainly changed recently, as the disease seems to be raging out of control again. Not sure if the change was mutation (e.g. delta) or
just everyone halting public health measures like masking and social distancing….
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SFandH
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | we are only 19 days into July - it is already the deadliest month for us in BCS. Looks like we'll finish around 400.
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Something has certainly changed recently, as the disease seems to be raging out of control again. Not sure if the change was mutation (e.g. delta) or
just everyone halting public health measures like masking and social distancing….
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The data I've been posting show the Los Cabos / La Paz active cases (hospital admittances) doubled in the third week of June. BCS hit an
all-time high. A portion of those unfortunate folks are dying now.
Businesses and individuals were letting down their guard then the delta variant hit.
I just looked at today's active cases. The numbers are coming down.
[Edited on 7-20-2021 by SFandH]
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Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe |
... New variants will now sprout from unvaccinated countries and come here. We're not out of the woods yet. We'll never eradicate this scourge. There
will be boosters and more boosters. |
"Unvaccinated countries" = USA
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fauci-us-canada-vaccines-1.6109362
[Edited on 7-20-2021 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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SFandH
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According to the New York Times
Canada - 51% fully vax, 71% partially vax
U.S. - 49% fully vax, 56% partially vax
Mex - 17% fully vax, 30% partially vax
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccina...
[Edited on 7-20-2021 by SFandH]
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del mar
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but the claim in baja is BC 79% and BCS 50% vaccinated
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mtgoat666
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California 51%
San Diego county 71%
Friends who work in the San Diego vaccine sites tell me that vaccine rate is dropping and they are closing some sites,… they say it does not look
good for getting higher vaccine rates than what is achieved today.
It looks like the USA and Mexico is in for continuing pandemic unless some new incentive is developed to motivate the hold outs. I suspect the
holdouts are a mix of anti-vaxxers, the uniformed, and the apathetic (don’t think about it or don’t care).
And the GOP crazies continue to promote conspiracy theories and misinformation in an attempt to score political gain off the ongoing tragedy of
sickness and death. The gop disinformation campaign is downright ani-American, gop is purposefully prolonging pandemic and related economic impacts.
The gop disinformation campaign is purposefully hurting citizens and purposefully damaging the economy.
[Edited on 7-20-2021 by mtgoat666]
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SFandH
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I know BC has a high vaccination rate, maybe the highest in Mexico, because the US donated vaccine that was all given to BC with the hopes of removing
the border restrictions.
"This shipment of 1.3 million vaccines was designated entirely for Baja California by decision of the Mexican government."
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-19/border-c...
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SFandH
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Let's try to keep politics off of this thread. It doesn't do any good.
Keep it factual - numbers, other pertinent info, with links.
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Let's try to keep politics off of this thread. It doesn't do any good.
Keep it factual - numbers, other pertinent info, with links. |
We need a clean-up on the Covid isle!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | Up here in our health region we get info on seniors percentages vaccinated, how many in the adult (over 16) vaccinated and how many from 12 up. All
those vary in percentages, but seniors in homes are over 90 percent with at least one dose almost all expected to have the second soon and they were
still being infected although at a much lower rate. In a population of 800,000 we now have zero people in critical care, zero new cases per day and
only 20 remaining cases not recovered yet. We ARE improving, but it won't happen overnite. |
Where's that?
Age does make a difference. I've been wondering why the rules about masks and gatherings don't take age into consideration. Everybody over 65 and
others who are health compromised in some way need to be more cautious than young healthy adults. But I'm not hearing these words from the government
talking heads.
I'm old, I smoked for 40 years and perhaps I like to take a drink a wee bit too often. I'm laying low until the bugs dry up.
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